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What is the Best Form of Communism?

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What is the best theory of communism?

Marxism
80
29%
Leninism
30
11%
Stalinism
25
9%
Maoism
8
3%
Gorbachevism
31
11%
Trotskyism
31
11%
Luxemburgism
40
14%
Titoism
31
11%
 
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What is the Best Form of Communism?

Postby Hakio » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:42 pm

Even, if you're not a communist (like myself) I think many people would favor certain kinds and theories over others. What is your ideal form of communism that you most identify with? Also what would you identify your personal political philosophy as?
(If you wish for me to add an option just ask.)
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:44 pm

I am strongly opposed to all forms of communism, but ideologies like Stalinism and Maoism are ten times worse than communist ideologies like Luxemburgism or Trotskyism.
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Postby Tuva SSR » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:44 pm

What about Gorbachevism-Leninism (I invented it).
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Postby Rutuba » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:45 pm

Voluntary communes existing within capitalist state. Anything else seems pretty scary.

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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:46 pm

The best form of Communism is when it has been destroyed and replaced with Freedom and Democracy
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Postby Jetan » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:47 pm

The non-existent one.

The poll needs an option for "None".
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:48 pm

Stalinism. Just to avoid the horrible Anarchist bullcrap.
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Postby Hakio » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:49 pm

Ziegenhain wrote:The best form of Communism is when it has been destroyed and replaced with Freedom and Democracy

Democracy and communism are not mutually exclusive.
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Postby Hakio » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:50 pm

Jetan wrote:The non-existent one.

The poll needs an option for "None".

This isn't about whether you like or dislike communism. If you want to duscuss that you can go to a different thread.
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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:51 pm

Hakio wrote:
Ziegenhain wrote:The best form of Communism is when it has been destroyed and replaced with Freedom and Democracy

Democracy and communism are not mutually exclusive.

I didn't say they were.

And you ask for what form of communism is the best form. Some people think the best form of communism is "none". Perfectly valid to include that
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Postby Margno » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:53 pm

Definitely not Stalinism or Maoism.
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Postby Rutuba » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:53 pm

And if I had to choose one as the ideology of government, I would go with Titoism. Definitely not Maoism or Trotskyism.

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Postby Hakio » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:54 pm

Rutuba wrote:And if I had to choose one as the ideology of government, I would go with Titoism. Definitely not Maoism or Trotskyism.

Titoism?
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:55 pm

I think i'd go Stalinism, just to avoid the Anarchist bull the rest of them espouse.

Or Titoism.
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Postby Arkiasis » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:55 pm

None of them.
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Postby Rutuba » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:56 pm

Hakio wrote:
Rutuba wrote:And if I had to choose one as the ideology of government, I would go with Titoism. Definitely not Maoism or Trotskyism.

Titoism?

Yes, Titoism.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:56 pm

Poll is inaccurate; Marxism-Leninism is not included, and it should be since it is probably one of the most common, if not the most common.

EDIT: Also, Stalinism isn't even a thing. It's purely made up, it is not an ideology.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:56 pm

Hakio wrote:
Jetan wrote:The non-existent one.

The poll needs an option for "None".

This isn't about whether you like or dislike communism. If you want to duscuss that you can go to a different thread.


We're not trying to discuss that, but some people don't think there is a best form of communism.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:57 pm

Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, and "Gorbachevism" aren't communism.
I could count the number of actual communist ideologies on one hand.

Myself, being a Marxist-Engellian, prefer the actual ideology that Marx and Engels came up with back in the 1850s/1860s. Why do I prefer it? Well it's the only one that could work, so...
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Rutuba wrote:
Hakio wrote:Titoism?

Yes, Titoism.

Ah okay added it.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:57 pm

None of those are forms of communism; they are ideologies proposing methods on how to realize communism and how to assess the world.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:57 pm

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:58 pm

Hakio wrote:

Ah okay added it.

Leninism and Stalinism should be removed, and replaced with Marxism-Leninism.
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The best form of Communism is the non-existent kind.
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Postby Jetan » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:58 pm

Hakio wrote:
Jetan wrote:The non-existent one.

The poll needs an option for "None".

This isn't about whether you like or dislike communism. If you want to duscuss that you can go to a different thread.

No thread ownership in general. "None" is a valid answer to all "Best type of X?" questions.
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