Your Social, Economic, and Political opinion of Germany

[Llamalandia]

Care to give some concrete examples of the these "great works" of Hugo Chavez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gES8IJ7dEA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHzc1h8k7o

I'm not very into the subject, though, but there is an undeniable list of plus aspects.

Pilger's not bad for a liberal, I'll have to watch that doc later. As for the other guy though, I tend not to trust people shouting at Oxford. If your point with that video was gay rights well ok, I admit I'm not sure where Chavez was on that though I assume he was probably in favor ok fair enough. As to lifting people out of poverty, even if one believes the claims in that video, it certainly hasn't been a sustainable course in venezuela as has been pointed out they've been rationing groceries and control the exchange rate which is ridiculous.

[Benuty]

Brazil needs to accommodate to foreigners, minorities and "minorities" (women, people of color).

Accommodation is good until you're so accommodating you allow the destruction of your own people.

Homogeneous nonsense.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Pilger's not bad for a liberal, I'll have to watch that doc later. As for the other guy though, I tend not to trust people shouting at Oxford. If your point with that video was gay rights well ok, I admit I'm not sure where Chavez was on that though I assume he was probably in favor ok fair enough. As to lifting people out of poverty, even if one believes the claims in that video, it certainly hasn't been a sustainable course in venezuela as has been pointed out they've been rationing groceries and control the exchange rate which is ridiculous.

Of course if you attain the highest minimum wages of your whole world region, part of the locals will feel de-legitimized with the results of many of these changes.

Still, according to the FAO, Venezuela was in the year that Chávez died, the country in Latin America and the Caribbean that was the most advanced in its projection of eradication of starvation and famine.

[Othelos]

Germany is perfect in every way and 12x better than the US.

[Mollary]

Britain is HILARIOUS

you cant be an imperial power in decline and not have a sense of humor.

Maybe it's just Jeremy Clarkson who is tragically unfunny, then.

Jeremy Clarkson is very unfunny by British standards. British people laugh a lot anyway, we generally have quite a good sense of humour.

Oh and Germany is quite nice, although their cuisine lacks flavour and the amount of potato and sausage doesn't counteract that.

[Magna Libero]

Socially: I suppose they are doing well
Economically: very Ayn Randish or social darwinist, I've read in a magazine that seemed to be questionably leftist. I think it's good.
Politically: Too much of euro

[The Scientific States]

Social: The people seem to be friendly and tolerant.
Economic: Their economic system is one of the oldest examples of a social market economy with a welfare state, which I love.
Political: Their politics are often sensible, and their leader, Merkel, is okay. She did a good job handling the euro crisis.

[Vareiln]

Meh. Mixed feelings.

[Armed Union]

Germany is way better than it was during Hitler.

[Constantinopolis]

Germany used to be awesome. In the second half of the 19th century it was the birthplace of Marxism, in the pre-WW1 years it was home to the largest and most influential socialist movement in the world, and in 1918-19 it came very close to having a successful proletarian revolution, which would have placed Germany and its culture at the heart of a communist Europe. And what a magnificent world that would have been! Instead, we had to settle for the Soviet Union as a consolation prize.

Later, the German Democratic Republic was pretty good - the most industrialized country of the Warsaw Pact. Although Czechoslovakia was pretty close, too, and arguably better in several ways.

But there was always another Germany, a deeply conservative and reactionary Germany, which was usually the version of Germany that held political power, and often repressed or outright massacred the leftists. This was the Germany of Bismarck, the Freikorps, and Hitler.

Today, Germany is the conservative heart of the new empire known as the European Union. The EU seems to be slowly but inevitably turning into the German Empire 2.0. Let's hope it shares the fate of the Kaisers.

[Nervium]

Social: Mixed view, culture somewhat similar to my own minus the majority culture of protestantism, most Germans I met were rather friendly.
Economic: For the love of Christ; no.
Political: Well, Germany has Die Linke and that's good, but the current political atmosphere, no.

[Frisivisia]

It seems to me as though Germany is economically and politically exploiting the rest of Europe save France and the UK.

[Nervium]

Germany is perfect in every way and 12x better than the US.

No it isn't. The US doesn't have mini-jobs, luckily. And as far as I know, there aren't Nazi's in any state legislature in the US. (Well, not open ones anyway)

[Wind in the Willows]

Germany is perfect in every way and 12x better than the US.

No it isn't. The US doesn't have mini-jobs, luckily. And as far as I know, there aren't Nazi's in any state legislature in the US. (Well, not open ones anyway)

Nonsense, there aren't Nazis in the German Government.

[Nervium]

No it isn't. The US doesn't have mini-jobs, luckily. And as far as I know, there aren't Nazi's in any state legislature in the US. (Well, not open ones anyway)

Nonsense, there aren't Nazis in the German Government.

Yes, there are, note that I wrote state legislature, german equivalent being regional parliaments.

[Constantinopolis]

No it isn't. The US doesn't have mini-jobs, luckily. And as far as I know, there aren't Nazi's in any state legislature in the US. (Well, not open ones anyway)

Nonsense, there aren't Nazis in the German Government.

Not in the federal one, no. But he said "state legislature". There are Nazis in the state legislatures of two German states: Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (where they hold 5 seats out of 71) and Saxony (8 seats out of 132).

[Wind in the Willows]

Nonsense, there aren't Nazis in the German Government.

Not in the federal one, no. But he said "state legislature". There are Nazis in the state legislatures of two German states: Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (where they hold 5 seats out of 71) and Saxony (8 seats out of 132).

The National Democratic Party might be racist, but they are not Nazis.

[Nervium]

Not in the federal one, no. But he said "state legislature". There are Nazis in the state legislatures of two German states: Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (where they hold 5 seats out of 71) and Saxony (8 seats out of 132).

The National Democratic Party might be racist, but they are not Nazis.

... Yes they are.

[Wind in the Willows]

The National Democratic Party might be racist, but they are not Nazis.

... Yes they are.

Ah right, I was getting it confused with another party. After some reading it turns out these guys are Nazis. Oh well.

[Constantinopolis]

The National Democratic Party might be racist, but they are not Nazis.

They are racist, nationalist, militaristic, believe in fake-genetic "theories" about human superiority and inferiority, demand the return of territories lost by Germany, advocate a state-directed capitalist economy, hate communists and Jews, and openly admire Nazi figures.

So, uh, yeah, they're Nazis.

[Wind in the Willows]

The National Democratic Party might be racist, but they are not Nazis.

They are racist, nationalist, militaristic, believe in fake-genetic "theories" about human superiority and inferiority, demand the return of territories lost by Germany, advocate a state-directed capitalist economy, hate communists and Jews, and openly admire Nazi figures.

So, uh, yeah, they're Nazis.

Did you read my above post?

[Constantinopolis]

They are racist, nationalist, militaristic, believe in fake-genetic "theories" about human superiority and inferiority, demand the return of territories lost by Germany, advocate a state-directed capitalist economy, hate communists and Jews, and openly admire Nazi figures.

So, uh, yeah, they're Nazis.

Did you read my above post?

Sorry - yes, I did, but only after I had already posted.

[Geilinor]

Good Beer. Good Sausages. Good Engines. Whats not to like?

If I had to live somewhere outside the Anglosphere I would pick Germany.

I like German culture and there attitude to life - it features a good work/play balance, something we forget in the UK.

Politically I find it incredibly dull. That's not a bad thing but its hard to get excited about Christian Democracy or Social Democrats and consensus building.

Consensus building might be dull, but it works. I don't know what it is, but modern Germany seems to have an air of pragmatism.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

If I had to live somewhere outside the Anglosphere I would pick Germany.

I wouldn't go there for the same reason I wouldn't go for Scandinavia... Horrible climate.

Really, Portugal, Spain and Ireland seem like the only environmentally inhabitable places of the continent to me. Though the earlier two are often too dry, and the latter too wet and still too cool.

[Othelos]

Germany is perfect in every way and 12x better than the US.

No it isn't. The US doesn't have mini-jobs, luckily.

How is that bad?

And as far as I know, there aren't Nazi's in any state legislature in the US. (Well, not open ones anyway)

99% of people in Germany despise Nazism.

The only reason extremists get into legislatures is because the German system of democracy actually represents its people accurately.