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What country has the most powerful military?

USA
1075
75%
China
106
7%
Russia
86
6%
India
8
1%
Germany
21
1%
UK
51
4%
France
10
1%
Spain
7
0%
Turkey
14
1%
Other (specify in your post)
46
3%
 
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:44 am

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Not the entire KPA is cannon fodder, they've been undergoing modernization for a while now and there have always been cream of the crop units like the 105th.


That "cream of the crop" units are only a small part of the large military.

Modernization? With whatever funds they have, they can only do in a small-scale modernization.


They can buy one T-99 a year *nods
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:45 am

Roski wrote:
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Not the entire KPA is cannon fodder, they've been undergoing modernization for a while now and there have always been cream of the crop units like the 105th.


Yes. 6 million cannon fodder with probably 10-20k halfway decent soldiers will not stop the might of China, South Korea, Japan, America..


The current active duty troops are believed to be the crème de la crème of the KPAGF. The fodder units most people think of would be the Workers-Peasants Red Guard which would be unlikely to see action unless the battle was pushed back into NK.
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Postby Barrera » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:47 am

USA without question. I think the real interesting thing is who is second. By manpower, probably China or Russia but my technology, almost undoubtedly it would be Britain IMO.
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:57 am

Barrera wrote:USA without question. I think the real interesting thing is who is second. By manpower, probably China or Russia but my technology, almost undoubtedly it would be Britain IMO.


I'd say China second.
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:58 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Roski wrote:
Yes. 6 million cannon fodder with probably 10-20k halfway decent soldiers will not stop the might of China, South Korea, Japan, America..


The current active duty troops are believed to be the crème de la crème of the KPAGF. The fodder units most people think of would be the Workers-Peasants Red Guard which would be unlikely to see action unless the battle was pushed back into NK.


The North Korea Military are expected to be the underfed soldiers.

Yeah, they can be believed all they want, when M1A2SEPS come across the southern border, there will be no North Korea.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:03 am

Roski wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
That "cream of the crop" units are only a small part of the large military.

Modernization? With whatever funds they have, they can only do in a small-scale modernization.


They can buy one T-99 a year *nods


Just one. Not a dozen.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:04 am

Roski wrote:
Barrera wrote:USA without question. I think the real interesting thing is who is second. By manpower, probably China or Russia but my technology, almost undoubtedly it would be Britain IMO.


I'd say China second.


Yeah, Britain currently has greater force projection (sending its troops across the globe to fight wars), but China outclasses it in almost every other regard. I'd also put Russia third, and the UK 4th.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:28 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Roski wrote:
Yes. But I don't think highly talked about cannon fodder is really powerful?


Not the entire KPA is cannon fodder, they've been undergoing modernization for a while now and there have always been cream of the crop units like the 105th.

"Cream of the crop" units will not particularly improve the capabilities overall, and they certainly won't be able to carry the army over cripplingly undertrained, underequipped and undernourished conscripts.
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:29 am

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
I'd say China second.


Yeah, Britain currently has greater force projection (sending its troops across the globe to fight wars), but China outclasses it in almost every other regard. I'd also put Russia third, and the UK 4th.


I don't know about the Ruskies. They seem to be falling apart.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:31 am

Roski wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Yeah, Britain currently has greater force projection (sending its troops across the globe to fight wars), but China outclasses it in almost every other regard. I'd also put Russia third, and the UK 4th.


I don't know about the Ruskies. They seem to be falling apart.

Kind of like China, or fusion power.
"Give it a decade"
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Postby Arglorand » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:32 am

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Roski wrote:
I don't know about the Ruskies. They seem to be falling apart.

Kind of like China, or fusion power.
"Give it a decade"

Famous last words, that.
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:35 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Roski wrote:
I don't know about the Ruskies. They seem to be falling apart.

Kind of like China, or fusion power.
"Give it a decade"


World map in a decade:

Asia owned by China.
Europe owned by china.
Africa owned by china.
South America owned by China.
North America owned by china.
Greenland and Oceania owned by Switzerland.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:41 am

Roski wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Yeah, Britain currently has greater force projection (sending its troops across the globe to fight wars), but China outclasses it in almost every other regard. I'd also put Russia third, and the UK 4th.


I don't know about the Ruskies. They seem to be falling apart.



They are (or will do), but I would say that its a long term problem rather than one affecting them now. Putin did conduct a recent upgrade of military assets after 2008 (and will do some more in theory - just like how they plan to land stuff on Mars :p ), while Britain has been cutting down its forces. The UK has better ground troops, navy and special forces, but Russia has the edge in missile tech, numbers (and nukes). Britain also doesn't have any current aircraft carriers, and its new ones will need some badly malfunctioning F35 variants (it was forced to borrow US harriers for the moment).
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Postby Cyrisnia » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:02 pm

Roski wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Kind of like China, or fusion power.
"Give it a decade"


World map in a decade:

Asia owned by China.
Europe owned by china.
Africa owned by china.
South America owned by China.
North America owned by china.
Greenland and Oceania owned by Switzerland.

Those damn Swiss.

Actually, where would Switzerland be on the scale?
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Postby The Re-Frisivisiaing » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:05 pm

Roski wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Kind of like China, or fusion power.
"Give it a decade"


World map in a decade:

Asia owned by China.
Europe owned by china.
Africa owned by china.
South America owned by China.
North America owned by china.
Greenland and Oceania owned by Switzerland.

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Postby The Greater Luthorian Empire » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:11 pm

Roski wrote:
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The current active duty troops are believed to be the crème de la crème of the KPAGF. The fodder units most people think of would be the Workers-Peasants Red Guard which would be unlikely to see action unless the battle was pushed back into NK.


The North Korea Military are expected to be the underfed soldiers.

Yeah, they can be believed all they want, when M1A2SEPS come across the southern border, there will be no North Korea.

If M1A2SEPs come across the Southern border China is liable to rout the US and if the UN tags along them as well again. Capitalist scum get rekt.
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:26 pm

The Greater Luthorian Empire wrote:
Roski wrote:
The North Korea Military are expected to be the underfed soldiers.

Yeah, they can be believed all they want, when M1A2SEPS come across the southern border, there will be no North Korea.

If M1A2SEPs come across the Southern border China is liable to rout the US and if the UN tags along them as well again. Capitalist scum get rekt.


Not likely. The T-99 would probably be fighting the P'okp'ung-ho
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:28 pm

Cyrisnia wrote:
Roski wrote:
World map in a decade:

Asia owned by China.
Europe owned by china.
Africa owned by china.
South America owned by China.
North America owned by china.
Greenland and Oceania owned by Switzerland.

Those damn Swiss.

Actually, where would Switzerland be on the scale?


Switerzland is actually pretty high up. What they lack in experience and numbers they more than make up for in training and world knowledge (See: Swiss Guards).

Now don't expect them to be able to do anything militarily, but for their population and military size, the Swiss can pack one hell of a punch.
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:30 pm

Roski wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:Those damn Swiss.

Actually, where would Switzerland be on the scale?


Switerzland is actually pretty high up. What they lack in experience and numbers they more than make up for in training and world knowledge (See: Swiss Guards).

Now don't expect them to be able to do anything militarily, but for their population and military size, the Swiss can pack one hell of a punch.


Don't they also have compulsory military service for a year or something as well?

And throughout history they have a reputation of beating up larger foes (like Burgundy)
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Postby Roski » Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:33 pm

Valaran wrote:
Roski wrote:
Switerzland is actually pretty high up. What they lack in experience and numbers they more than make up for in training and world knowledge (See: Swiss Guards).

Now don't expect them to be able to do anything militarily, but for their population and military size, the Swiss can pack one hell of a punch.


Don't they also have compulsory military service for a year or something as well?

And throughout history they have a reputation of beating up larger foes (like Burgundy)


They do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

And they almost catch Germany in terms of active personnel
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Postby Valaran » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:02 pm

Roski wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Don't they also have compulsory military service for a year or something as well?

And throughout history they have a reputation of beating up larger foes (like Burgundy)


They do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

And they almost catch Germany in terms of active personnel



lol, that's is quite random. Go Switzerland! :p
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Postby The Canadian Middle East » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:29 am

1. USA
2. China
3. India
4. Japan
5. Russia
6. UK
7. Germany
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Israel
11. Turkey
12. Switzerland
13. Canada
14. Indonesia
15. Brazil
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Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:16 am

The Canadian Middle East wrote:1. USA
2. China
3. India
4. Japan
5. Russia
6. UK
7. Germany
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Israel
11. Turkey
12. Switzerland
13. Canada
14. Indonesia
15. Brazil


Japan above Germany and Israel below France..? That's a bit odd.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:18 am

The Republic of Mattlandia wrote:
The Canadian Middle East wrote:1. USA
2. China
3. India
4. Japan
5. Russia
6. UK
7. Germany
8. France
9. South Korea
10. Israel
11. Turkey
12. Switzerland
13. Canada
14. Indonesia
15. Brazil


Japan above Germany and Israel below France..? That's a bit odd.


France is a lot stronger than Israel.
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Postby Prezelly » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:38 am

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The Republic of Mattlandia wrote:
Japan above Germany and Israel below France..? That's a bit odd.


France is a lot stronger than Israel.

At least they would be if their arsenal wasn't made of white flags
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