When you see the Hammer And Sickle, what do you think

[Galter Gulcher]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head? Do you think of the death and oppressive actions that occurred under it, or do you think of just the plain old ideology of communism, regardless of your possible views upon it?

Personnally, I have always seen it as a symbol that suggests you are in direct support of the death and oppresive policies that have occured under this symbol. That it is a symbol witch supports the confiscation of grains during the Russian Revolution even in the harsh winter, that it is a symbol witch supports the millions whom were killed in Gulags simply over political ideology or ethnicity

What about you NS, what does the Hammer and Sickle mean to you?

[Mike the Progressive]

When I see a hammer and sickle I think of Shoefrica *nods*

[Greed and Death]

Reap some commies and hammer the stalks into the ground.

[Korintar]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head? Do you think of the death and oppressive actions that occurred under it, or do you think of just the plain old ideology of communism, regardless of your possible views upon it?

Personnally, I have always seen it as a symbol that suggests you are in direct support of the death and oppresive policies that have occured under this symbol. That it is a symbol witch supports the confiscation of grains during the Russian Revolution even in the harsh winter, that it is a symbol witch supports the millions whom were killed in Gulags simply over political ideology or ethnicity

What about you NS, what does the Hammer and Sickle mean to you?

While I don't necessarily associate genocide with it, I do associate the Soviet Union with it, a regime that I, as a democratic or libertarian socialist whose ideology is based in Christian rather than Marxist teaching, oppose with equal intensity as I do the neoliberal corporate capitalist regime.

[Thafoo]

It's bs to associate it with the mass death because it's an actual ideology that was abused by power hungry dictators using an ideology popular in their countries to seize and keep power, whereas nazism and the like was directly aligned with the Holocaust. I don't support communism, though, by the way.

That said, the moderators are going to take your flag down.

[Avenio]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head?

Farm equipment. Shortly thereafter followed by visions of freshly-baked bread.

I should probably get something to eat.

[Alyakia]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head? Do you think of the death and oppressive actions that occurred under it, or do you think of just the plain old ideology of communism, regardless of your possible views upon it?

Personnally, I have always seen it as a symbol that suggests you are in direct support of the death and oppresive policies that have occured under this symbol. That it is a symbol witch supports the confiscation of grains during the Russian Revolution even in the harsh winter, that it is a symbol witch supports the millions whom were killed in Gulags simply over political ideology or ethnicity

What about you NS, what does the Hammer and Sickle mean to you?

What does the French flag mean to you? Does it symbolize torture and rape of civilians as a policy? Does it symbolize trying to destroy peoples language and culture? Do the stars and stripes represent taking children away from their parents and driving them off their land? Overthrowing governments and installing brutal dictators? Why do so many people support the death and oppressive policies that have occurred under these symbols? Do you?

[Thafoo]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head?

Farm equipment. Shortly thereafter followed by visions of freshly-baked bread.

I should probably get something to eat.

Un croque-monsieur

[Lemanrussland]

I think of the oppressive government of the USSR, yes. I also think of things from Soviet history, like WWII and the Soviet space program. I don't immediately think of genocide in the same way that I do if I see a Nazi flag, though.

I also think of Communism, but not really in the same way I would if I see a simple red star or a red flag (the red star is more a symbol of socialism than communism, but it's still in the same category).

It also honestly depends on the context in which I see it. If I see it on my college campus, for example, I immediately think of teenage social justice warriors. I don't know why, but I suppose that's the stereotype that I associate with it. It guess it doesn't help that there's often also feminist symbolism present as well.

[Zavea]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head??

a communist hammer and sickle

[Thafoo]

When you look at a communist hammer and sickle, what first pops into your head??

a communist hammer and sickle

^^^^

[United Marxist Nations]

The union of the industrial workers and farmers.

I've defended the Soviet Union on here many times as well.

[Magna Libero]

When I see a hammer and a sickle I don't see the Soviet Union or genocide. What I see is a failed ideology and misery. However, to be realistic the hammer and the sickle should be linked to the Soviet Union and other states where it has been implemented and genocide.

The hammer and the sickle should never again be used in a nation's flag, just like the Swastika or Fasces.

[Uelvan]

I just think of communism in general.

[Galter Gulcher]

The union of the industrial workers and farmers.

I've defended the Soviet Union on here many times as well.

Your kidding me?

industrial workers? The Soviet Union was centered around bureaucracy and corruption, that does not benefit the average factory worker. They had NO freedoms what so ever in the city, every single action was watched by the authorities, and you were under constant fear of a knock on the door in the middle of the night, that you would be hauled off to a Gulag over something you might have said to a co worker. In the factorys, your bosses would be a cruel and you would make very little if any "money."


Farmers? I will have you know that during the Russian Revolution and WW2, the Bolsheviks and Communists inacted policies that required you to turn in all if not most of your grain in order to feed the war effort, this caused hundreds of thousands maybe millions of Farmers and there families, including children to die of starvation.

[The Flood]

I just think of the Soviet Union and the Soviet anthem.

[L Ron Cupboard]

I think of genocide when I see the swastika in your flag.

[United Marxist Nations]

The union of the industrial workers and farmers.

I've defended the Soviet Union on here many times as well.

Your kidding me?

industrial workers? The Soviet Union was centered around bureaucracy and corruption, that does not benefit the average factory worker. They had NO freedoms what so ever in the city, every single action was watched by the authorities, and you were under constant fear of a knock on the door in the middle of the night, that you would be hauled off to a Gulag over something you might have said to a co worker. In the factorys, your bosses would be a cruel and you would make very little if any "money."


Farmers? I will have you know that during the Russian Revolution and WW2, the Bolsheviks and Communists inacted policies that required you to turn in all if not most of your grain in order to feed the war effort, this caused hundreds of thousands maybe millions of Farmers and there families, including children to die of starvation.

Less than 20% of Gulag prisoners were there for political reasons, the vast majority were there for actual crimes. The workers in the Soviet Union had access to universal healthcare, housing, and education. Far better than what they had before; not to mention that wages in the USSR weren't nearly as low as you think: by 1989, the average income in the USSR was $8700; considering all the benefits provided or subsidized, the average Soviet citizen probably ended up with about just as much, or maybe even more than their capitalist counterparts.

[Bulgar Rouge]

I think of Soviet Socialism and how it could have worked much better.

Your kidding me?

industrial workers? The Soviet Union was centered around bureaucracy and corruption, that does not benefit the average factory worker. They had NO freedoms what so ever in the city, every single action was watched by the authorities, and you were under constant fear of a knock on the door in the middle of the night, that you would be hauled off to a Gulag over something you might have said to a co worker. In the factorys, your bosses would be a cruel and you would make very little if any "money."


Farmers? I will have you know that during the Russian Revolution and WW2, the Bolsheviks and Communists inacted policies that required you to turn in all if not most of your grain in order to feed the war effort, this caused hundreds of thousands maybe millions of Farmers and there families, including children to die of starvation.

Lol. Eighth-grade "anti-communism".

[Ancient Magmia]

I think of communism. That's it.

Humanity has a history of doing stupid shit in the name of [insert ideology/religion here], and then the symbols become dirty in the eyes of many, even if it isn't directly connected to the atrocities committed. I don't see genocide and such with symbols; symbols are just symbols. I see what people have done with these symbols.

[Gauthier]

I think the Republicans are talking about the Affordable Healthcare Act again.

[Columbion]

When I see the hammer and sickle I think of hope and unity

[Margno]

I just think communism, for whatever reason.

[United Marxist Nations]

It's past one in the morning here, so I'm going to call it a night, so I'll have to respond to any replies to my posts later. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[Lemanrussland]

I just think communism, for whatever reason.

That's really strange. Have you seen a doctor for that?