The Oldest Nation?

by **The Fedral Union** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:46 am

Querinos wrote:Ctan? Nah, I've seen older.

The Fedral Union wrote:...

Since when do you post in General, TFU?

I've done so at times not to often though. I personally consider my self middle aged , November 03. Incidentally I thought Myrth was one of the oldest around is he still about?

by **Barringtonia** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:50 am

I think one of the Dutchies is Dec 2002 as well, I just remember it on Jolt,

by **Tahar Joblis** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:52 am

Arthymia wrote:Creation date for this nation: 29 December 2002. I have a 13 days older nation (Zyrox), but it was CTE for a while. I had an even older nation, that i let CTE before i created Zyrox. I know there were even older nations, but i don't know if any of them are still active.

If they were ever active on the jolt forum, you can find their creation date there.

Oh yeah!

... hm, turns out Melkor is a nub. He's a month younger than me.

Awww heck yeah! I found my old military development thread! ;=P

by **Automagfreek** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:01 am

If I recall Demoness is one of the first 2002 nations, though it's hard to remember for certain since it was so long ago.

by **Arthymia** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:17 am

Demoness was created 23 November 2002. :bow:

I've been bested.

Not that that really surprises me...

by **Pepe Dominguez** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:33 am

I had an early '03 that lapsed a few months before I made this one. Ah, well.

by **Pepe Dominguez** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:34 am

I had an early '03 that lapsed a few months before I made this one. Ah, well.

by **Potarius** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:41 am

Pepe Dominguez wrote:I had an early '03 that lapsed a few months before I made this one. Ah, well.

Holy fuck, it's Pepe!

by **Bobs Taco Shack** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:56 am

Bah, and I was impressed with my nations age. Talking about '02. Makes me feel like a nubcake.

by **Pepe Dominguez** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:11 am

Potarius wrote:
Pepe Dominguez wrote:I had an early '03 that lapsed a few months before I made this one. Ah, well.

Holy fuck, it's Pepe!

Where!?

Oh, right. Hi!

by **Skibereen** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:16 am

The Ambrose Islands wrote:
Wallonochia wrote:Are you talking about the Nationstates game? A lot, probably the majority, of NSG don't actually play the game.

Just on Nationstates period. There's a few nations with a population over 14 Billion, but I don't know which has been around the longest.

You cant base it wholly on population because any period of inactivity where your nation "dies" and must be restored pauses your pop growth.

by **Parnassus** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:15 am

March 21, 2003 for me. I don't think population is an absolute indicator either. I can remember 'back in the day' that some of my friends had more people even though they'd started later than I did. I have 14.5 billion right now.

by **Czardas** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:31 am

There was a thread about this on Jolt a couple of years ago, I think. Hack mentioned a nation which had been created the day the site went live (and was apparently still active), although I can't remember the name.

When I was stopping by the region of North America during my world tour, someone there mentioned having been around since 20 November 2002. I also know the founders of Wysteria have been around since '02, and quite possibly some of the other nations still resident therein.

Among mods and ex-mods, Cogitation, Menelmacar, Feoras(/Demoness) and Myrth are all '02 nations, November or December. Maxtopia predates all of them, though. ;)

by **The Ambrose Islands** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:01 am

Tahar Joblis wrote:
Arthymia wrote:Creation date for this nation: 29 December 2002. I have a 13 days older nation (Zyrox), but it was CTE for a while. I had an even older nation, that i let CTE before i created Zyrox. I know there were even older nations, but i don't know if any of them are still active.

If they were ever active on the jolt forum, you can find their creation date there.

Oh yeah!

... hm, turns out Melkor is a nub. He's a month younger than me.

Awww heck yeah! I found my old military development thread! ;=P

So that's what the old jolt forums look like.

by **South Lorenya** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:08 am

My first nation (Lorenya) dates back to 2003 (age of only thirty issues), but it's long-dead. The mods may be able to date it, but I imagine there are older nations around.

by **Travancore-Cochin** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:17 am

Isn't Maxtopia the oldest?

by **Melkor Unchained** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:26 am

You can get a rough idea of who the oldest nations are when the "Largest Nation" WA poll comes around next, although there were some users who benefited from an early bug in the game that caused their population to grow faster than other users. Praetor, who has topped the "Largest Nation" WA poll for a few years now, used to have it; I think he joined around the same time I did.

My first nation was probably founded in early-mid January 2003. My first nation was a misspelling of "Amon Amarth," which means "Mount Doom" in Elvish. My second was a libertarian nation that has CTE'd like four times--this is my third or fourth account and was founded on 05 Feb. I didn't start posting on the forums until I had this account, which is so named because I couldn't think of any other "Melkor" variation that wasn't already taken.

As for remaining active (or semi active) users, the oldest I know about are TJ, Demoness, Menelmacar, Scolopendra and Karmabaijan, all of whom predate me I believe.

by **Czardas** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:28 am

Travancore-Cochin wrote:Isn't Maxtopia the oldest?

Yes. I'm pretty sure Testlandia has been around for a while as well. <.<

by **HC Eredivisie** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:05 am

Barringtonia wrote:I think one of the Dutchies is Dec 2002 as well, I just remember it on Jolt,

Yes, the Blaatschapen is from mid december 2002, making him one of the oldest still active players here.

I'm from 16 april 2003, though my oldest two nations are from february 2003 but are long gone.

by **Equus** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:49 pm

Equus, The Bruce, and The Grendels were all founded on Dec. 21, 2002. Bruce immediately founded Wysteria and we recorded the date in the WFE. Epona was founded on Dec. 31 2002.

There are quite a few old time Wysterians with over 15 billion population who didn't have the pop bug.

by **The Galirandi** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:52 pm

http://forums.joltonline.com/showthread.php?t=398832

by **Errinundera** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:43 pm

Errinundera started on Christmas Eve 2002 but we don't rate thanks to a two year holiday.

by **Hydesland** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:47 pm

[violet] i would imagine.

"Skallvia" · by **Maurepas** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:50 pm

One of these days I'll be just as old as you are!

by **Equus** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:17 pm

Skibereen wrote:
The Ambrose Islands wrote:Just on Nationstates period. There's a few nations with a population over 14 Billion, but I don't know which has been around the longest.

You cant base it wholly on population because any period of inactivity where your nation "dies" and must be restored pauses your pop growth.

It's not just that. Even without the pop bug (most of the nations in the list at The Galirandi's link were affected by the pop bug), nations don't grow at the same rate. I have secondary nations that are larger than my main nation (which was created first), but both were created on the same day (but not affected by the pop bug). I think Bruce even has nations that were created a few days later than his main nation that have a higher pop.

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