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Postby Ashaven » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:53 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent


That's different than saying every person who has ever had that fantasy became a rapist. BIG difference.
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Postby Nadkor » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:54 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent


Yes, that's exactly what he's saying.
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Postby Thoricia » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:54 pm

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Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.


Not true that fantasies always lead to realization. Many people have fantasies that will never come true, or they will never act on.



Its like letting a 5-year old play with a revolver that has one bullet in the cylinder, do you hope he dosen't shoot himself or do you take the gun away
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:55 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent

Considering that EVERY rape has happened in a wide range of circumstances (Including warfare) I would be very surprised if it had.

But you have compleatly missed the point there. Fantacy does not lead to actual realization. If it did, I would have tried to jump off the roof a long time ago to fly like Superman.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:56 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent


Probably not every single one of them.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:57 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent

Considering that EVERY rape has happened in a wife range of circumstances (Including warfare) I would be very surprised if it had.

But you have compleatly missed the point there. Fantacy does not lead to actual realization. If it did, I would have tried to jump off the roof a long time ago to fly like Superman.


Hmmmmmmm Freudian? ;)
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:58 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:Partly because theres not a quick way of saying "people who fuck children"...


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nonce
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Postby Lord-General Drache » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:58 pm

Thoricia wrote:
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Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.


Not true that fantasies always lead to realization. Many people have fantasies that will never come true, or they will never act on.



Its like letting a %-year old plat with a revolver that has one bullet in the cylinder, do you hope he dosen't shoot himself or do you take the gun away


Here's another example: Alot of people get pissed the fuck off, and think of murdering someone they know. They very rarely do. Are you saying we should lock up everyone who's ever thought "I'd love to shoot that asshole for being such a discriminatory pig/condescending jerk/abusive bastard?" That's pretty much most of the population.

Just because someone thinks about something does not mean they actually do it.

Generally, people who sexually assault have to work up to that, emotionally and experientially. They aren't just going to go "nnff, I'd love to rape that person" 100 times and then go do it.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent

Considering that EVERY rape has happened in a wife range of circumstances (Including warfare) I would be very surprised if it had.

But you have compleatly missed the point there. Fantacy does not lead to actual realization. If it did, I would have tried to jump off the roof a long time ago to fly like Superman.


Hmmmmmmm Freudian? ;)

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Postby Thoricia » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:59 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent


Probably not every single one of them.


I agree with you there not every one, mostly serial rapists do but not every rapist but the issue here is not rapists its Pedophiles which is a whole different breed
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:00 pm

Thoricia wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent


Probably not every single one of them.


I agree with you there not every one, mostly serial rapists do but not every rapist but the issue here is not rapists its Pedophiles which is a whole different breed

And you can show this... how?
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Postby The Separatist Systems » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:01 pm

Nadkor wrote:[...]
Women can rape (unless you're talking in a strictly legal sense, and even then some countries legally recognise rape as an offence that can be committed by women), and women can certainly be paedophiles.

Either way, my stance remains the same.

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Pedophiles get a bad rap

Postby Thoricia » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:04 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent


Probably not every single one of them.


I agree with you there not every one, mostly serial rapists do but not every rapist but the issue here is not rapists its Pedophiles which is a whole different breed

And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

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Postby NERVUN » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:08 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.
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Postby Thoricia » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:10 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.


Sounds like someone is a believer in the Rind Study

I'm sorry that was mean of me, its just I'm a father and I'm very passionate about this subject
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Postby Lord-General Drache » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:12 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.


Sounds like someone is a believer in the Rind Study


"Believes in?" It was a well done study. Just because a proper study produces results that you find disagreeable does not make it untrue.
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Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.


Sounds like someone is a believer in the Rind Study

I'm sorry that was mean of me, its just I'm a father and I'm very passionate about this subject


Which is most understandable. That does still not allow you to use false evidence for your arguement.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:14 pm

Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.


Sounds like someone is a believer in the Rind Study

I'm sorry that was mean of me, its just I'm a father and I'm very passionate about this subject

No, I am not. And flamebaiting a Mod like that is usually not a bright idea.

I too am a father, but I want my son to be aware of the actual dangers and NOT jumping at boggymen. I'd also rather make it so that pedophiles can feel free to seek help without fear of finding a lynch mob waiting for them.
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Postby Ashaven » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:15 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.


Sounds like someone is a believer in the Rind Study

I'm sorry that was mean of me, its just I'm a father and I'm very passionate about this subject

No, I am not. And flamebaiting a Mod like that is usually not a bright idea.

I too am a father, but I want my son to be aware of the actual dangers and NOT jumping at boggymen. I'd also rather make it so that pedophiles can feel free to seek help without fear of finding a lynch mob waiting for them.


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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:15 pm

Unified Western States wrote:Well...it is still a crime. Crime gets punished. And they are sick, whether they can control their urges or not. Sex with children, especially non-consensual, is just plain wrong. I have no pity for pedophiles.


Why do you want to punish uncontrollable thoughts?

Now actions on the other hand...
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Lord-General Drache wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:And you can show this... how?
In a majority of cases the child molested is molested by someone who was a closet pedophile that the child knew or trusted. My evidence every Catholic Priest that molested an altar boy

:palm: Your evidence does not show what you seem to be thinking that it shows.

Leaving alone the whole who molests children bit (Actually, in most cases it's a close family member), but your "evidence" doesn't show that these molesters had any sort of fantacy beforehand where they worked themselves up to it. Nor does it show why having such thoughts is any different from those who engage in any OTHER kind of fantacy.


Sounds like someone is a believer in the Rind Study


"Believes in?" It was a well done study. Just because a proper study produces results that you find disagreeable does not make it untrue.

Actually the study did have some massive flaws that have been covered elsewhere.
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Postby Thoricia » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:16 pm

An Ongoing Sex Drive Directed Toward Children:
The Single Greatest Cause Of Sex Acts Against Children

The single greatest cause that drives an adult to sexually interact with a child is a sexual desire for a little girl or boy.

As explained above, older teenagers and adults who fall under this category are called pedophiles. Their problem, a sexual desire directed toward children, is called pedophilia.

Pedophiles molest 88 percent of our children who are molested. They commit 95 percent of the acts. This is a serious disorder.

To be a force to protect the children closest to you, you must understand the difference between a pedophile and a child molester.

Diagnostic criteria for pedophilia

Pedophilia is a well-known disorder. It's defined by the American Psychiatric Association in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-IV-TR.

You may be familiar with the main features of this disorder, but we want to be sure you understand the importance of some of the details.

To be diagnosed with pedophilia, a person must:

be sexually aroused by, have intense, recurring sexual fantasies of, or be involved in sexual behavior with a prepubescent child or children (generally 13 years or younger);
be aroused by, have sexual fantasies of, or be involved with a child for at least six months.;
be at least 16 years old, and

be at least five years older than the child or children he or she is attracted to.
George matches the criteria for being a pedophile. He's been doing the "behaviors" (molesting children) for 26 years. That's well over six months. He's past 16, and he's been at least five years older than all of his victims - including his first victim, his 10-year-old stepsister Abby.

The diagnosis of females with the disorder pedophilia is exactly the same. However, we are concentrating on male pedophiles because they come into either the mental health or criminal justice system in huge numbers. Of the over 16,000 people in the original sample in the Child Molestation Prevention Study, only 601 were women. Of the 4,000 people who admitted to being a child molester, only 1.4 percent or 55 of them were women. However, female sexual abusers do present a problem. In reports of daycare workers who are abusers, women account for 40 percent.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:16 pm

Bunyippie wrote:gee, raping a kid isn't REALLY that bad. :palm:


Gee someone doesn't know what a pedophile really is. :palm:
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Postby Allbeama » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:16 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:
Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.

:eyebrow: So... every guy and gal who has ever had a rape fantasy has become a rapist?

Interesting logic you have there.

So your telling me EVERY rapist hadn't thought about it beforehand stimulating themselves thinking about taking advantage of another person without there consent

Considering that EVERY rape has happened in a wide range of circumstances (Including warfare) I would be very surprised if it had.

But you have compleatly missed the point there. Fantacy does not lead to actual realization. If it did, I would have tried to jump off the roof a long time ago to fly like Superman.

If my fantasies were realized I would have a lovely harem of girls who adore me. But it does not work that way, right?
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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:17 pm

Thoricia wrote:Because its sick to even dream fantasize about having sex with someone that is incapable of giving any kind of consent and when some one "just" fantasizes about it they eventually act upon these urges which leads to, you guessed it, child molestation.


We are all rapists.
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