Pedophiles get a bad rap

[Ascon]

No, executing a murderer sure as hell does NOT encourage repeat offenses - one bastard less

Well if we were talking about murder, you'd have a point.

[Xochipill]

This is utterly untrue.
The wretch who destroyed other's live outside of law deserves to have the exact same thing done to him,
A witty saying proves nothing as was said, especially since your one is about blood feud, not personal revenge (targetting th perpetrator, not his relatives) . especially if the state carries it out

Actually, it is true.

If you want to fix the problem, approaching it from an attitude of vengeance is pointless. In the first place, it doesn't address the idea of prevention. In the second, it encourages repeat offenses. In the third, it doesn't actually fix anything.

It's easy and emotionally satisfying to say things like "Oh just lock the sick bastard up forever." but out here in the real world, our solutions need to be a bit more constructive.

No, executing a murderer sure as hell does NOT encourage repeat offenses - one bastard less

Actually, according to any study you look at that's worth a damn, the death penalty is no more effective then lw/op

[Central Slavia]

This is utterly untrue.
The wretch who destroyed other's live outside of law deserves to have the exact same thing done to him,
A witty saying proves nothing as was said, especially since your one is about blood feud, not personal revenge (targetting th perpetrator, not his relatives) . especially if the state carries it out

Actually, it is true.

If you want to fix the problem, approaching it from an attitude of vengeance is pointless. In the first place, it doesn't address the idea of prevention. In the second, it encourages repeat offenses. In the third, it doesn't actually fix anything.

It's easy and emotionally satisfying to say things like "Oh just lock the sick bastard up forever." but out here in the real world, our solutions need to be a bit more constructive.

No, executing a murderer sure as hell does NOT encourage repeat offenses - one bastard less

Actually, according to any study you look at that's worth a damn, the death penalty is no more effective then lw/op

So for each repeat offender you prevent from that by killing him, another murderer magically springs up?

[The Alma Mater]

No, executing a murderer sure as hell does NOT encourage repeat offenses - one bastard less

A murderer kills his victim anyway.
A rapist might not kill his victim, accepting the risk of prison if ever identified- but if he (or she) knows (s)he will get the death penalty for rape.. why not kill the witness ?

[The Alma Mater]

So for each repeat offender you prevent from that by killing him, another murderer magically springs up?

Sadly, more or less, yes.

[Lord-General Drache]

No, executing a murderer sure as hell does NOT encourage repeat offenses - one bastard less

A murderer kills his victim anyway.
A rapist might not kill his victim, accepting the risk of prison if ever identified- but if he (or she) knows (s)he will get the death penalty for rape.. why not kill the witness ?

Fun fact: rapists don't usually kill people because they are witnesses. Their victims aren't perceived as threats and sometimes not even really as people.

[The Galirandi]

[...]
Of course, only men can be paedophiles or rapists.

Rapists, yes. Pedophiles, probably.

Wait, so I can put on a strap-on and penetrate you up the ass without consent (or lubricant), and it wouldn't be rape because ... I don't have a penis with which to do it instead?

Good to know.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

[...]
Of course, only men can be paedophiles or rapists.

Rapists, yes. Pedophiles, probably.
Who knows? Either way, my stance remains the same.

Dostoevsky
Marinetus/The Separatist States

Fail.

[Lord-General Drache]

[...]
Of course, only men can be paedophiles or rapists.

Rapists, yes. Pedophiles, probably.

Wait, so I can put on a strap-on and penetrate you up the ass without consent (or lubricant), and it wouldn't be rape because ... I don't have a penis with which to do it instead?

Good to know.

I believe Nadkor was being sarcastic.

[The Galirandi]

[...]
Of course, only men can be paedophiles or rapists.

Rapists, yes. Pedophiles, probably.

Wait, so I can put on a strap-on and penetrate you up the ass without consent (or lubricant), and it wouldn't be rape because ... I don't have a penis with which to do it instead?

Good to know.

I believe Nadkor was being sarcastic.

I'm aware of that. Hence why I was not responding to Nadkor's post.

[Central Slavia]

[...]
Of course, only men can be paedophiles or rapists.

Rapists, yes. Pedophiles, probably.

Wait, so I can put on a strap-on and penetrate you up the ass without consent (or lubricant), and it wouldn't be rape because ... I don't have a penis with which to do it instead?

Good to know.

No, it is because it is much more difficult to pull off due to lack of physical strength on average, and because much more men are drawn to agressive sexual behaviour

[Buffett and Colbert]

Paedophilia is illegal and morally wrong. I would not associate myself with one unless the person has served out his or her prison time. Then I would regard the person with an open mind.

[The Galirandi]

No, it is because it is much more difficult to pull off due to lack of physical strength on average, and because much more men are drawn to agressive sexual behaviour

Sauce please.

[The Tofu Islands]

I believe Nadkor was being sarcastic.

TSS wasn’t, though. Or at least not obviously.

[Aglrinia]

The only thing i find stupid is when an eighteen year old male or female have sex with each other the eighteen year old gets prosecuted if the parents find out.

Then i do pitty the person.

[The Galirandi]

Well...it is still a crime. Crime gets punished. And they are sick, whether they can control their urges or not. Sex with children, especially non-consensual, is just plain wrong. I have no pity for pedophiles.

Pedophiles are disgusting, immoral, and utterly insane. I agree with the Unified Western States. They deserve no pity.

They're not insane, whatever else you think of them. Insanity is a legal term meaning that the person accused was not, at the commission of the crime, mentally capable of making a moral decision as to whether it was right or wrong to commit the crime. It is not in any way one used in psychology, ever.

It's not?

Way to ruin my dreams of someday being able to tell people I've been diagnosed with "clinical batshit insanity". You heartless reprobate.

[Lord-General Drache]

Well...it is still a crime. Crime gets punished. And they are sick, whether they can control their urges or not. Sex with children, especially non-consensual, is just plain wrong. I have no pity for pedophiles.

Pedophiles are disgusting, immoral, and utterly insane. I agree with the Unified Western States. They deserve no pity.

They're not insane, whatever else you think of them. Insanity is a legal term meaning that the person accused was not, at the commission of the crime, mentally capable of making a moral decision as to whether it was right or wrong to commit the crime. It is not in any way one used in psychology, ever.

It's not? :(

Way to ruin my dreams of someday being able to tell people I've been diagnosed with "clinical batshit insanity". You heartless reprobate.

As a student of psychology, I should feel bad for you or something. As a person, I'm reveling in the delicious dreams you have had crushed. *smacks lips*

[Britta Almighty]

Obviously you don't have children; Because if any poor 'bad rap' pedophilic pervert layed a hand on my child, I would kill him. I most certainly do NOT think there are any misgivings to their reputation. It's the most dispicible thing in the world to sexually violate an innocent child. Just to have thoughts of it is disgusting; Anyone who would suggest that it is less than this is probably a pedophile themselves.

[Lord-General Drache]

Obviously you don't have children; Because if any poor 'bad rap' pedophilic pervert layed a hand on my child, I would kill him. I most certainly do NOT think there are any misgivings to their reputation. It's the most dispicible thing in the world to sexually violate an innocent child. Just to have thoughts of it is disgusting; Anyone who would suggest that it is less than this is probably a pedophile themselves.

Actually a number of people in the thread have stated they have children and would prefer pedos get treatment so they don't become offenders in the first place. You'd know that if you bothered to read it.

Suggesting that people who advocate a reasonable strategy of prevention through therapy and monitoring are pedophiles themselves is a ridiculous statement and attack.

[Britta Almighty]

I didn't suggest they shouldn't try therapy; If they recognize that quality they most certainly should. I'm saying I don't agree with a misinterpreted reputation. And your hostility is not really necessary.

[The Galirandi]

As a student of psychology, I should feel bad for you or something. As a person, I'm reveling in the delicious dreams you have had crushed. *smacks lips*

The juxtaposition of these revels with the image of an petulant baby makes for (unintentional?) hilarity.

Obviously you don't have children; Because if any poor 'bad rap' pedophilic pervert layed a hand on my child, I would kill him. I most certainly do NOT think there are any misgivings to their reputation. It's the most dispicible thing in the world to sexually violate an innocent child. Just to have thoughts of it is disgusting; Anyone who would suggest that it is less than this is probably a pedophile themselves.

You may be under the impression that all paedophiles are child molesters. Neither this nor the reverse is true, as already established herein.

[Central Slavia]

As a student of psychology, I should feel bad for you or something. As a person, I'm reveling in the delicious dreams you have had crushed. *smacks lips*

The juxtaposition of these revels with the image of an petulant baby makes for (unintentional?) hilarity.

Obviously you don't have children; Because if any poor 'bad rap' pedophilic pervert layed a hand on my child, I would kill him. I most certainly do NOT think there are any misgivings to their reputation. It's the most dispicible thing in the world to sexually violate an innocent child. Just to have thoughts of it is disgusting; Anyone who would suggest that it is less than this is probably a pedophile themselves.

You may be under the impression that all paedophiles are child molesters. Neither this nor the reverse is true, as already established herein.

If they are not, noone will find out about them. But they still should not be let near others' children

[Resolute Prime]

I do notice people saying that pedos are immoral. I would like to clarify that the *proper* answer is "Pedos are immoral according to my beliefs". The ancient Greeks, as well as several tribes (such as the Gebusi in Papua New Guinea, or at least, pre-modernization) actively engaged in pedophilia. or some variation thereof.

Typical ethnocentrism.

[Jalisca]

Just the title gives whatever the intent of this thread was away.

Whoever defends pedophiles, people who satisfy their sick sexual cravings by preying on innocent children, should be treated almost as badly as those sick fuckers.

[Lord-General Drache]

Just the title gives whatever the intent of this thread was away.

Whoever defends pedophiles, people who satisfy their sick sexual cravings by preying on innocent children, should be treated almost as badly as those sick fuckers.

This was addressed in the thread. Not every pedophile is a rapist. Not every pedophile becomes a rapist. As I've had to reiterate a few times today, there should be no stigma with defending these people so as to enable them to gain access to treatment and help.