Do you consider Mormonism to be Christian?

[Nierr]

Nierr making Atheists look intolerant
= Ruridova facepalm.

Estormo assuming I'm an atheist
= Nierr facepalm.

Here ya go!

[Farnhamia]

Nierr making Atheists look intolerant
= Ruridova facepalm.

Estormo assuming I'm an atheist
= Nierr facepalm.

Here ya go!

You lot veering off the topic = Mod warnings.

And calling Catholics "idol worshippers" was old 200 years ago.

[Arglorand]

There were Christians before the Nicene Creed, and there were Christians that were against the Nicene Creed.

The Nicene Creed does not make you a Christian. It makes you a believer in the Nicene Creed.

I'm not saying there weren't, but these days almost everyone even claiming to be Christian follows the Creed.

And Mormons don't.

So if it was legitimate to be a Christian and not follow the Nicene Creed 1500 years ago, I don't see why it shouldn't be now.

[Nierr]

Estormo assuming I'm an atheist
= Nierr facepalm.

Here ya go!

You lot veering off the topic = Mod warnings.

And calling Catholics "idol worshippers" was old 200 years ago.

And is equally true today as it was then.

The Catholic church as far removed from the original church of Christ and the Apostles as... the British Antarctic Territory is removed from being part of Britain proper.

[Tekania]

Yes, agreed /is an Buddhist Papist

Exactly.

Which is why we need another inquisition and have the Spaniards lead it because nobody would expect it.

CARDINAL! Poke her with the soft cushions!

[Castille de Italia]

I am a Latter-day Saint. I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. Therefore, I am a Christian.

[Ashmoria]

I'm not saying there weren't, but these days almost everyone even claiming to be Christian follows the Creed.

And Mormons don't.

So if it was legitimate to be a Christian and not follow the Nicene Creed 1500 years ago, I don't see why it shouldn't be now.

there have been Christian heretics throughout that time. they were still Christians, just not in the "club".

and you may as well face it that while it is typical in our more openminded days to consider all these Nicene creed believing denominations as Christians it was not so long ago (or even so long ago in this thread) when differences in beliefs within this same group had different believers proclaiming that various members weren't Christian for non-Nicene reasons.

[Ashmoria]

You lot veering off the topic = Mod warnings.

And calling Catholics "idol worshippers" was old 200 years ago.

And is equally true today as it was then.

The Catholic church as far removed from the original church of Christ and the Apostles as... the British Antarctic Territory is removed from being part of Britain proper.

Christ didn't have a church and im not so sure the apostles did either.

[Tekania]

And is equally true today as it was then.

The Catholic church as far removed from the original church of Christ and the Apostles as... the British Antarctic Territory is removed from being part of Britain proper.

Christ didn't have a church and im not so sure the apostles did either.

Apostles certainly had church, not necessarily a dedicated building for that purpose, though. In the core sense of the term a "church" is just the congregation of believers in an area. It need not be a specialized building for that purpose, it could be someone's house, a barn, just out in the pastures somewhere..... whereever.

[Nierr]

And is equally true today as it was then.

The Catholic church as far removed from the original church of Christ and the Apostles as... the British Antarctic Territory is removed from being part of Britain proper.

Christ didn't have a church and im not so sure the apostles did either.

'Church' in this instance, refers to the early Christian community.

[Phocidaea]

Mormons are fundamentally Christian, what with the whole Jesus as savior thing.

They are undeniably rather "innovative" in their theology, but still Christian.

[Arglorand]

And Mormons don't.

So if it was legitimate to be a Christian and not follow the Nicene Creed 1500 years ago, I don't see why it shouldn't be now.

there have been Christian heretics throughout that time. they were still Christians, just not in the "club".

and you may as well face it that while it is typical in our more openminded days to consider all these Nicene creed believing denominations as Christians it was not so long ago (or even so long ago in this thread) when differences in beliefs within this same group had different believers proclaiming that various members weren't Christian for non-Nicene reasons.

I'm aware, yes.

[Ashmoria]

Christ didn't have a church and im not so sure the apostles did either.

Apostles certainly had church, not necessarily a dedicated building for that purpose, though. In the core sense of the term a "church" is just the congregation of believers in an area. It need not be a specialized building for that purpose, it could be someone's house, a barn, just out in the pastures somewhere..... whereever.

yeah. and a bit of community living.

so if one wanted to worship like the apostles I guess youd have to join a religious commune. that does let out the vast, vast majority of Christians across all time.

[Darwinish Brentsylvania]

Yeah, I do.

[Tekania]

Apostles certainly had church, not necessarily a dedicated building for that purpose, though. In the core sense of the term a "church" is just the congregation of believers in an area. It need not be a specialized building for that purpose, it could be someone's house, a barn, just out in the pastures somewhere..... whereever.

yeah. and a bit of community living.

so if one wanted to worship like the apostles I guess youd have to join a religious commune. that does let out the vast, vast majority of Christians across all time.

No, not a religious commune. They weren't living in communes.... more like the modern day house-church movement.

[Ashmoria]

yeah. and a bit of community living.

so if one wanted to worship like the apostles I guess youd have to join a religious commune. that does let out the vast, vast majority of Christians across all time.

No, not a religious commune. They weren't living in communes.... more like the modern day house-church movement.

yes they were. they were doing so in acts ... remember how one couple got zapped by god because they held back some of their worldly goods instead of giving it all to the collective?

[Tekania]

No, not a religious commune. They weren't living in communes.... more like the modern day house-church movement.

yes they were. they were doing so in acts ... remember how one couple got zapped by god because they held back some of their worldly goods instead of giving it all to the collective?

That's not why the couple was zapped.... they were "zapped" for engaging in deceit towards not just the people there, but to God. The issue was not that they kept money from their sale, it was that they presented it as if it were the entire proceeds from the sale. Peter's rebuke was not in keeping the money, but in the deceit the man and his wife engaged in. Everything was not being sold just to maintain a singular "Commune".... rather from time to time people were selling things to provide upkeep for the less fortuneate among them so no one was in want. It was a communal operation, yes.... but not a commune.

[Nord Amour]

As far as I'm concerned, if you believe in Jesus, and believe that Jesus is in some way divine, (son of God, the Trinity, etc.) then you are Christian.

By that definition, Mormons are Christians.

[Ceannairceach]

Simple enough question, I'd think. Do you think that Mormonism, as is practiced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, is Christian?

My family and I converted to Mormonism when I was around eight or so, and I was baptized that following year as a member of the LDS Church. In Sunday school, I was taught about Jesus Christ, God, the Gospels as well as the Book of Mormon, and generally about the religion. It is somewhat hazy, because I was so young and ended up leaving the Church a short time later, but during that time, I was taught that Mormons were Christians. That is an understanding I still have today.

But what does everyone else believe? Are Mormons, by any stretch of the term, Christian? If so, why? If not, why not?

marco Rubio is that you?

of course they are Christians.

but they do not hold the standard beliefs that the extremely vast majority of Christians hold.

Yeah, I am very much like Marco Rubio. Too much for my liking, actually.

[Benuty]

If Mormons are not Christians then what does that make Christadelphians?
*Read before you respond people.

[Tagmatium]

Mormons certainly have a unique view of what happened in North America.

Apparently there were several, completely unattested, urban civilisations in North America.

Who knew that?