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Should this man have been arrested?

No.
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Yes
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:00 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Hey, it's not "pubertal"; I'm only 17, and I know that that's something you just don't do.

Yeah, it is "pubertal" (go here and search for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty - 16 matches)

He was implying that puberty was making people be against the father; however, if there are those going through puberty who think the father was in the right, then that would contradict his implication.
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:00 pm

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I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.

The fuck did I just read.


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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:00 pm

Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*

Her parents does have a say with the matter, but disobeying your parents is not against any city ordinance, state laws, or federal laws.

Because the whole fucking problem in the last 2 pages is someone claiming that disobeying your parents is a violation of federal laws. I mean, as much as I would have love the FBI breaking down people's doors whenever a kid disobeys their parents, it's just absurd.
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Postby Divair2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:00 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Divair2 wrote:The fuck did I just read.


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From a clown.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:00 pm

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Divair2 wrote:The fuck did I just read.

You read justice.

Well, LG style. One needs must take things he says with a little grain of salt. He's a writer, you know.
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Postby Sociobiology » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Divair2 wrote:The fuck did I just read.


violent fantasy

I half expected to read her getting fucked by a bear.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:03 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

Calling a 16 year old a child is misleading.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:03 pm

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Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not saying it was right, and I understand that it's illegal and why. But I would have kicked that little fucker's nuts up into his nostrils. So I sympathize with the father. I'd maybe charge him with aggravated assault.

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I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.


now i'm not saying we don't all occasionally write about how much we'd love to assault teenage boys but have you considered maybe getting anger management?

I feel that beating foolish boys that don't know their place would be my grim duty as a father. But I'd like to think I can find some joy in the process. I'm very good at making even the most banal tasks fun. :)
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:03 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

Calling a 16 year old a child is misleading.


From a legal standpoint, I do believe he is a child.
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Postby Divair2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:03 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

People often forget corporal punishment is still illegal. Said people are often violent in the first place.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:03 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Yeah, it is "pubertal" (go here and search for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty - 16 matches)

He was implying that puberty was making people be against the father; however, if there are those going through puberty who think the father was in the right, then that would contradict his implication.

Is that what you meant? :blink: I need to lie down.
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Postby Verdum » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:04 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Alyakia wrote:

now i'm not saying we don't all occasionally write about how much we'd love to assault teenage boys but have you considered maybe getting anger management?

I feel that beating foolish boys that don't know their place would be my grim duty as a father. But I'd like to think I can find some joy in the process. I'm very good at making even the most banal tasks fun. :)

And, since he was in a shower, you can say he slipped and fell on your baseball bat.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:04 pm

It's news like this that makes me glad I live in a country where it's legal and common for kids to get belted when they are doing such shit. They can't just bring strangers without there parent's permission! -_-'
Europe is going to the dogs with all this "liberal freedom" propaganda shit!

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Postby Alyakia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:04 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

Calling a 16 year old a child is misleading.


The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as "a human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier".
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:04 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

In the heat of the moment after he caught a man naked with his daughter... In the shower...
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

Divair2 wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

People often forget corporal punishment is still illegal. Said people are often violent in the first place.


Isn't it not corporal punishment, if the person that was beaten was not the aggressor's child?
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Viritica wrote:You read justice.

Well, LG style. One needs must take things he says with a little grain of salt. He's a writer, you know.

And a damn good one.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Calling a 16 year old a child is misleading.


From a legal standpoint, I do believe he is a child.

Then the law needs to recognize that that is not the case; there is gray area.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

Verdum wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I feel that beating foolish boys that don't know their place would be my grim duty as a father. But I'd like to think I can find some joy in the process. I'm very good at making even the most banal tasks fun. :)

And, since he was in a shower, you can say he slipped and fell on your baseball bat.

Repeatedly.

Yes, this is all fun but we really do need to leave the parental fantasies behind, I think.
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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

The DG Elves wrote:It's news like this that makes me glad I live in a country where it's legal and common for kids to get belted when they are doing such shit. They can't just bring strangers without there parent's permission! -_-'
Europe is going to the dogs with all this "liberal freedom" propaganda shit!

*sigh*

It isn't legal.
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Postby Kratu » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

The DG Elves wrote:It's news like this that makes me glad I live in a country where it's legal and common for kids to get belted when they are doing such shit. They can't just bring strangers without there parent's permission! -_-'
Europe is going to the dogs with all this "liberal freedom" propaganda shit!

Are you serious?
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Postby Orvius » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

I agree that he should face the consequences for hitting the kid instead of just screaming him out of his apartment like anyone else would.

But the whole “maliciously causing a child under the age of 18 cruel, excessive or mental pain”? That's bullcrap. 16 years of age is old enough to know what's right from wrong, and he should not be treated like he's too young to not know any better.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:05 pm

Viritica wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Are people actually in supoort of the man that beat the kid?

He assaulted a child.

In the heat of the moment after he caught a man naked with his daughter... In the shower...


I understand that it's infuriating to see a teenager in the shower with your daughter, but assaulting the kid because of your anger? That's terrible.
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Postby Divair2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:06 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Divair2 wrote:People often forget corporal punishment is still illegal. Said people are often violent in the first place.


Isn't it not corporal punishment, if the person that was beaten was not the aggressor's child?

No. Corporal punishment is not necessarily a parent hitting a child. That's simply one of the more common examples.

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