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Should this man have been arrested?

No.
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Yes
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Jetan
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Postby Jetan » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:51 pm

Grantica wrote:
Jetan wrote:Because beating up minors is totes okay "under the circumstances". :roll:

Not okay, but understandable. I favor commonsense in justice, and if he has no history of violence or crime, there's no point ruining his life over this. Anger management, community service, etc. might be a better way to handle it.

If he is the type of person to beat up a kid on the mere suspicion of him having sex with his consenting, legally able daughter, how much do you truly expect anger management class to help? There isn't really any migitating circumstances here.
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Postby Senyosu » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:54 pm

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Senyosu wrote:Disproportionate retribution is more amusing and much more suitable than weak willed justice.

If you can't discipline a child without blowing into anger, you are not really a good parent by any standard.


Disproportionate retribution is just bad.

Also, he didn't blow up at his daughter physically if I remember right. He went after her naked boyfriend.

Personally, I would have yelled very scarily at both of them, told the boyfriend to beat it immediately, and then taken disciplinary measures (grounded, no internet, no phone, all the draconian parental stuff) against the daughter once my wife got home.

Deserves humiliation. But this is personal opinion.

Still. If you cannot contain your rage as a parent under a trivial offence, you ain't a good parent to begin with. Rage on if said matter was dire, though.

Personally, I'd go out for the boyfriend and leave the daughter mildly to unpunished, so long as she understands the protocol of the house. If the guy can't keep it in his pants, then the lady is not to be punished for the misdeeds. Unless consensual, then by all means go after both. But this does not mean physical violence is to be used. It means to prepare beforehand to such an event.
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Postby Zavea » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:56 pm

the defence lawyer should just say to the judge, "my client is not guilty, your honour. as you can see, his hands are clean" and then tap on a drumset
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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:19 pm

When did 16 year olds having sex become an egregious offense? Jesus fucking christ people.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:24 pm

Estormo wrote:Lol, he looks like a thumb. Anyway, he had the right to do it. You don't go with a man's daughter into his house without his consent.


If there's nothing illegal like the girl being under age then its not the father's business who she's in a relationship with because it isn't the Middle Ages and girls are not their father's property.

If there was something illegal going on he could call the police and let the legal system handle it like a responsible citizen of a civilized country.

I sincerely hope you don't have a daughter.

Edit: I didn't know how long this thread was. I guess this is old stuff. Still worth saying though.

Also, despite what I said, I know parents have a right to discipline their children, and everyone has a right to control what happens in their home. That doesn't mean they can commit assault however.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:28 pm

I'm not saying it was right, and I understand that it's illegal and why. But I would have kicked that little fucker's nuts up into his nostrils. So I sympathize with the father. I'd maybe charge him with aggravated assault.
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Postby Verdum » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:38 pm

Mollary wrote:
Verdum wrote:Hell yeah, I would have kicked that little fuckers ass.

Then you too would have gone to prison. Why, by the way? Does your daughter not deserve the right to do what she wishes as long as it is legal? Is beating anyone who consents to such activity with her a sane response?

Not in my damn shower.

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Postby Bezombia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:43 pm

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Mollary wrote:Then you too would have gone to prison. Why, by the way? Does your daughter not deserve the right to do what she wishes as long as it is legal? Is beating anyone who consents to such activity with her a sane response?

Not in my damn shower.


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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:44 pm

Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:45 pm

Good thing that this is not nearly as depressing as what I expected it to be (misread title).
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:47 pm

Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*

*nods* Because teenagers know everything. I for one welcome our pubertal overlords.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:47 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Estormo wrote:Lol, he looks like a thumb. Anyway, he had the right to do it. You don't go with a man's daughter into his house without his consent.


If there's nothing illegal like the girl being under age then its not the father's business who she's in a relationship with because it isn't the Middle Ages and girls are not their father's property.

If there was something illegal going on he could call the police and let the legal system handle it like a responsible citizen of a civilized country.

I sincerely hope you don't have a daughter.

Edit: I didn't know how long this thread was. I guess this is old stuff. Still worth saying though.

Also, despite what I said, I know parents have a right to discipline their children and everyone has a right to control what happens in their home. That doesn't mean they can commit assault however.

You don't; however, have the right to do it in his house. Take that shit somewhere else.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:48 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*

*nods* Because teenagers know everything. I for one welcome our pubertal overlords.

I welcome them with open hormones.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:48 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
If there's nothing illegal like the girl being under age then its not the father's business who she's in a relationship with because it isn't the Middle Ages and girls are not their father's property.

If there was something illegal going on he could call the police and let the legal system handle it like a responsible citizen of a civilized country.

I sincerely hope you don't have a daughter.

Edit: I didn't know how long this thread was. I guess this is old stuff. Still worth saying though.

Also, despite what I said, I know parents have a right to discipline their children and everyone has a right to control what happens in their home. That doesn't mean they can commit assault however.

You don't; however, have the right to do it in his house. Take that shit somewhere else.

Finally, some sanity in this thread.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:50 pm

Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*


I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:51 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*


I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.

:bow:

You, Farnharnia, and UMN are a breath of fresh air in this thread of pubertal insanity.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:53 pm

Viritica wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.

:bow:

You, Farnharnia, and UMN are a breath of fresh air in this thread of pubertal insanity.

Hey, it's not "pubertal"; I'm only 17, and I know that that's something you just don't do.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:55 pm

Viritica wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.

:bow:

You, Farnharnia, and UMN are a breath of fresh air in this thread of pubertal insanity.

That's pretty scary right there.

I would hope that any daughter of mine would know better than to pull a stunt like that, that she'd talk to me about her feelings for this boy. I know that teenagers often think adults, especially their parents, do not understand them but I would hope ... well, you get the idea. And while it would be fun to bounce the young man off the toe of my shoe, I do think the father in this case overreacted. I can understand why, but yeah.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:56 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Viritica wrote: :bow:

You, Farnharnia, and UMN are a breath of fresh air in this thread of pubertal insanity.

Hey, it's not "pubertal"; I'm only 17, and I know that that's something you just don't do.

Yeah, it is "pubertal" (go here and search for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty - 16 matches)
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:57 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not saying it was right, and I understand that it's illegal and why. But I would have kicked that little fucker's nuts up into his nostrils. So I sympathize with the father. I'd maybe charge him with aggravated assault.

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*


I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.


now i'm not saying we don't all occasionally write about how much we'd love to assault teenage boys but have you considered maybe getting anger management?
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:58 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Viritica wrote: :bow:

You, Farnharnia, and UMN are a breath of fresh air in this thread of pubertal insanity.

That's pretty scary right there.

I would hope that any daughter of mine would know better than to pull a stunt like that, that she'd talk to me about her feelings for this boy. I know that teenagers often think adults, especially their parents, do not understand them but I would hope ... well, you get the idea. And while it would be fun to bounce the young man off the toe of my shoe, I do think the father in this case overreacted. I can understand why, but yeah.

You'd be surprised how many here have made him out to be the devil and condemned him as a worthless, minor-beating deadbeat.
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Postby Divair2 » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:58 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Viritica wrote:Hey, she may have been fucking in her parent's shower but as long as she's cool with it then it's perfectly okay and her parents have no say in the matter. *nods*


I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.

The fuck did I just read.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:59 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Viritica wrote: :bow:

You, Farnharnia, and UMN are a breath of fresh air in this thread of pubertal insanity.

That's pretty scary right there.

I would hope that any daughter of mine would know better than to pull a stunt like that, that she'd talk to me about her feelings for this boy. I know that teenagers often think adults, especially their parents, do not understand them but I would hope ... well, you get the idea. And while it would be fun to bounce the young man off the toe of my shoe, I do think the father in this case overreacted. I can understand why, but yeah.

In a situation like this, emotions can run high, and he likely began acting before he thought it through. The charges should be dropped or heavily reduced, and the "child cruelty" charge should be dropped particularly; the name of the charge is misleading, and they're just trying to pile onto him for a reaction that many parents would have.

If I did something like this, I'd be just as afraid of my own father than my [hypothetical] girlfriend's.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:59 pm

Viritica wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:That's pretty scary right there.

I would hope that any daughter of mine would know better than to pull a stunt like that, that she'd talk to me about her feelings for this boy. I know that teenagers often think adults, especially their parents, do not understand them but I would hope ... well, you get the idea. And while it would be fun to bounce the young man off the toe of my shoe, I do think the father in this case overreacted. I can understand why, but yeah.

You'd be surprised how many here have made him out to be the devil and condemned him as a worthless, minor-beating deadbeat.

Oh, I doubt I would be.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:00 pm

Divair2 wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
I don't need to say a word. I'd let my steel-toed boots do the talking. And he'd thank his lucky ball-flattened stars it wasn't my wife that found him.

The fuck did I just read.

You read justice.
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