Man arrested for beating down boy in shower with daughter

[Silent Majority]

How on earth does owning the house equate to the ability to dictate his daughters sex life?

She is free to do it anywhere else. She is not free to do it without the father's permission in the house. Respect your elders!

According to whom? Owning property doesn't give one the right to use that property to violate the rights of others.


And I very much doubt that the stepfather was angry because of the location.

[Riiser-Larsen]

Actually, what you may not know is that when performed correctly, the pull out method is only a few percentage points below protection in terms of success. Either way, like I said, there is always Plan B or an abortion in the case of a mistake.

We're not ignoring it, we just have very different ideas about how property works. We acknowledge that now not all property within a family belongs to the man, you still cling to this notion that the man is somehow morally superior and therefor has control over everything within his house.

Source on that pull out thing, please?

Also, I'm not claiming he's morally superior. But the thing is they were fucking in his house and his shower. So, I mean, he has every right to be pissed. She doesn't have the god given right to fuck people in his shower. Sorry, buddy.

Like it has been said multiple times, I have no reason to cite my sources until you cite yours.

Also, the fact that you're angry about something does not give you the right to attack someone for it. Certainly, I am angry at you right now, but I'm not trying to kill you or beat you half to death.

[Viritica]

She is free to do it anywhere else. She is not free to do it without the father's permission in the house. Respect your elders!

According to whom? Owning property doesn't give one the right to use that property to violate the rights of others.


And I very much doubt that the stepfather was angry because of the location.

You see, when people own houses, they're kind of capable of controlling what goes on in their own house. And since she's not an adult and he's her legal guardian, he's still in charge.

She has no right to fuck him in his house... Let alone his shower.

[The DG Elves]

She is free to do it anywhere else. She is not free to do it without the father's permission in the house. Respect your elders!

According to whom? Owning property doesn't give one the right to use that property to violate the rights of others.


And I very much doubt that the stepfather was angry because of the location.

True but he may have not beaten the kid up simply because he wouldn't be there... he may not even know where they are doing it, or where the kid lives... isn't that what you want? Him not getting beat up?

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

I'm not "rebellious" I just recognize that people should be able to make their own decisions about these things, and that patriarchal bullcrap about controlling female sexuality belongs in the distant past.

Its about parents in general, and them having the final say on what goes on in their house, and ultimately with their children, as much as possible.

Parents have the right to reasonably punish their own children. They do not have the right to beat the living shit out of someone, whether they are their child or not.

[Streetgrind]

I'd like your source about teenagers not using condoms.

It's... Common knowledge. Going to a high school and being around kids helps you figure that out.

"Common knowledge" is also quite inaccurate.

I go to a high school. I can't speak for everyone, but I've heard that a lot of people use those. Teen pregnancy happens once in a blue moon at my school.

Your high school may have been different. I'm guessing that you're older. Which means you weren't as educated on the usage of contraceptives/protection. So of course you would think that. Also, I can't speak for the high school in your vicinity. Maybe they're a bit less educated. I don't know.

Just bring me that source, please. We don't take anecdotes.

[Riiser-Larsen]

How on earth does owning the house equate to the ability to dictate his daughters sex life?

She is free to do it anywhere else. She is not free to do it without the father's permission in the house. Respect your elders!

"Respect is earned, not given. These people have done nothing to earn my respect" -The Godfather.

[The DG Elves]

Its about parents in general, and them having the final say on what goes on in their house, and ultimately with their children, as much as possible.

Parents have the right to reasonably punish their own children. They do not have the right to beat the living shit out of someone, whether they are their child or not.

What if the law is not enforced at all then?

[Mistelemr]

A better question is: why shower together? Is that easier than just being in bed together?

He could've just asked him to leave. If he actually did do something with his daughter, then he should disown him.

Difficult to disown a person who's not in your family.

Not really, you just give up on humanity

Source: George Carlin

[Viritica]

Source on that pull out thing, please?

Also, I'm not claiming he's morally superior. But the thing is they were fucking in his house and his shower. So, I mean, he has every right to be pissed. She doesn't have the god given right to fuck people in his shower. Sorry, buddy.

Like it has been said multiple times, I have no reason to cite my sources until you cite yours.

Also, the fact that you're angry about something does not give you the right to attack someone for it. Certainly, I am angry at you right now, but I'm not trying to kill you or beat you half to death.

I actually have a friend who got pregnant when her boyfriend did the pull out. It didn't exactly work. There's such a thing as pre-cum.

I'm not saying he does. But she also has no right to fuck him in his shower. It's his house and him trying to control what goes on inside it apparently pisses people off.

[Riiser-Larsen]

Parents have the right to reasonably punish their own children. They do not have the right to beat the living shit out of someone, whether they are their child or not.

What if the law is not enforced at all then?

What law? There is no law that says that the only punishment for a crime is to be tortured or beaten.

[The DG Elves]

She is free to do it anywhere else. She is not free to do it without the father's permission in the house. Respect your elders!

"Respect is earned, not given. These people have done nothing to earn my respect" -The Godfather.

Very mature reply...
Respect has to be mutual, she clearly had no respect for him...

[Duuuude Im Stoned]

We'll g'night everyone it's been a bit agitating to argue with ya guys but hey! At least I have been entertained! Bye!

[Silent Majority]

According to whom? Owning property doesn't give one the right to use that property to violate the rights of others.


And I very much doubt that the stepfather was angry because of the location.

You see, when people own houses, they're kind of capable of controlling what goes on in their own house. And since she's not an adult and he's her legal guardian, he's still in charge.

She has no right to fuck him in his house... Let alone his shower.

Neither property rights, nor his relational status as a parent give him the right to beat her boyfriend

[Spoder]

He should have just kicked them off.
It was on his property, without his consent.
But the girl consented to the act. She just didn't have the right to do it on her father's property without consent.
I don't blame him, but he sort of put himself where he is.

[Riiser-Larsen]

Like it has been said multiple times, I have no reason to cite my sources until you cite yours.

Also, the fact that you're angry about something does not give you the right to attack someone for it. Certainly, I am angry at you right now, but I'm not trying to kill you or beat you half to death.

I actually have a friend who got pregnant when her boyfriend did the pull out. It didn't exactly work. There's such a thing as pre-cum.

I'm not saying he does. But she also has no right to fuck him in his shower. It's his house and him trying to control what goes on inside it apparently pisses people off.

Anecdotal evidence, but I will drop that point. I meant it more to piss him off

The thing is, that regardless of whether it pisses him off it does not give him the legal right to beat someone up. Regardless of whether it's inside his own home.

[The Rebel Alliances]

The step father overreacted. But had it been me I would have definitely thrown the boy's @$$ out. Maybe scare the hell out of him, but not actually harm him. Beating him senseless is not needed in the situation. When the step daughter was just as involved, and she would be quite grounded.

[The DG Elves]

What if the law is not enforced at all then?

What law? There is no law that says that the only punishment for a crime is to be tortured or beaten.

The law to not beat people up... in some countries (ex Soviet ones) people rarely get arrested for fights...

[Viritica]

You see, when people own houses, they're kind of capable of controlling what goes on in their own house. And since she's not an adult and he's her legal guardian, he's still in charge.

She has no right to fuck him in his house... Let alone his shower.

Neither property rights, nor his relational status as a parent give him the right to beat her boyfriend

And I never said it did. The age of consent gives her no right to fuck her boyfriend in his house.

[Draica]

Alright. Part of me is saying this is a terrible idea, but after listening to some Elton John, I'l do it. I'l be making an official poll on this.

[Silent Majority]

It's his house and him trying to control what goes on inside it apparently pisses people off.

No, it's his backward morals and unjustified use of violence that piss people off

[The DG Elves]

He should have just kicked them off.
It was on his property, without his consent.
But the girl consented to the act. She just didn't have the right to do it on her father's property without consent.
I don't blame him, but he sort of put himself where he is.

Excellent reply!
That's what I was trying to explain, just in too many words...

[Viritica]

I actually have a friend who got pregnant when her boyfriend did the pull out. It didn't exactly work. There's such a thing as pre-cum.

I'm not saying he does. But she also has no right to fuck him in his shower. It's his house and him trying to control what goes on inside it apparently pisses people off.

Anecdotal evidence, but I will drop that point. I meant it more to piss him off

The thing is, that regardless of whether it pisses him off it does not give him the legal right to beat someone up. Regardless of whether it's inside his own home.

And I never said it did. Now many times must I say this?

Also, the age of consent gives her no right to fuck him in his house.

[Riiser-Larsen]

"Respect is earned, not given. These people have done nothing to earn my respect" -The Godfather.

Very mature reply...
Respect has to be mutual, she clearly had no respect for him...

Last time I checked there was nothing immature about quoting things. Snark and snide remarks are obviously not your forte.

It doesn't matter, if he does things like beat people up for imagined slights then he probably doesn't deserve that sort of respect.

[Viritica]

It's his house and him trying to control what goes on inside it apparently pisses people off.

No, it's his backward morals and unjustified use of violence that piss people off

Backwards morals? So not wanting to witness his daughter getting fucked his backwards?

Well shit...