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Should this man have been arrested?

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Postby Bodobol » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:02 pm

When I saw this thread title, I pictured a man finding his son in the shower and then picking up his daughter and using her to beat down his son.
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Postby Streetgrind » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:02 pm

Viritica wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:I don't, but neither do you, and I'm going to assume that she actually has multiple IQ points and is therefore on the pill.

Plenty of teenagers don't use protection. They thing pulling out before you cum somehow solves everything.

Your assumptions are irrelevant.

Also, can we not ignore the fact that they were fucking in his house and in his shower?

I'd like your source about teenagers not using condoms.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:02 pm

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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:02 pm

Viritica wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:Protection doesn't always work in the same way that shooting yourself in the head won't always kill you. 99.99% of the time, if you're doing it right, you'll get the intended result. But if you do it wrong, then obviously it's not going to work, in which case there's always Plan B (literally and figuratively).

And I'm guessing you pulled that percentage out of your ass?

My god. Are u freakin retarded? Obviously he doesn't give a damn about the percentage and neither should you

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Postby Teamora » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:02 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:Unfortunately most people on this forum don't understand this.


You seem to be under some delusion that a child can gainsay the word of a parent.

You seem to be under some delusion that the law gives a single fuck about your word as a parent. Any father might WANT to beat him down in that situation but the difference is sane ones would throw him out and give the daughter a talking to instead of resorting to physical violence.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:03 pm

Viritica wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:I don't, but neither do you, and I'm going to assume that she actually has multiple IQ points and is therefore on the pill.

Plenty of teenagers don't use protection. They thing pulling out before you cum somehow solves everything.

Your assumptions are irrelevant.

Also, can we not ignore the fact that they were fucking in his house and in his shower?

Actually, what you may not know is that when performed correctly, the pull out method is only a few percentage points below protection in terms of success. Either way, like I said, there is always Plan B or an abortion in the case of a mistake.

We're not ignoring it, we just have very different ideas about how property works. We acknowledge that now not all property within a family belongs to the man, you still cling to this notion that the man is somehow morally superior and therefor has control over everything within his house.
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Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:03 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:So your arrogant daughters tells you to go for a walk because she will be getting dicks in her mouth shortly and you will say: Okay be safe! *leaves*


*shrugs* Yes actually

And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)

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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:03 pm

How on earth does owning the house equate to the ability to dictate his daughters sex life?
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:03 pm

Ailiailia wrote:Where's the bit in the source where it says the step-father owns the house? Or even has his name on the lease?

Ikr I gotta go to bed soon. I'm getting agitated from this thread anyway lol

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Postby Streetgrind » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:04 pm

Viritica wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:Protection doesn't always work in the same way that shooting yourself in the head won't always kill you. 99.99% of the time, if you're doing it right, you'll get the intended result. But if you do it wrong, then obviously it's not going to work, in which case there's always Plan B (literally and figuratively).

And I'm guessing you pulled that percentage out of your ass?

Start citing your fucking sources on teen contraceptive usage and I'll let you snark the fuck out of people for not posting sources. Until then, you're shit outta luck.
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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
*shrugs* Yes actually

And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)


:roll: I'm not "rebellious" I just recognize that people should be able to make their own decisions about these things, and that patriarchal bullcrap about controlling female sexuality belongs in the distant past.
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Postby Streetgrind » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
*shrugs* Yes actually

And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)

How old are you? 600? This is the 21st century. You assume that taking a dick in the mouth is a bad thing.
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Menassa wrote:Why?

You know, I try not to make jokes about Jewish over-sensitivity. But literally one person said they laughed at an antisemitic poster and "Menassa is summoned!"

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 pm

What a horrible man. I'm very glad he was arrested.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
*shrugs* Yes actually

And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)

You are, without a doubt, the greatest level of condescending degenerate I have ever encountered.

Just because someone holds a different or more liberal opinion than you, you assume it's a "rebellious teen in puberty act"? It must be nice being able to delude yourself so easily.
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Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:05 pm

Silent Majority wrote:How on earth does owning the house equate to the ability to dictate his daughters sex life?

She is free to do it anywhere else. She is not free to do it without the father's permission in the house. Respect your elders!

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:06 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
Viritica wrote:Plenty of teenagers don't use protection. They thing pulling out before you cum somehow solves everything.

Your assumptions are irrelevant.

Also, can we not ignore the fact that they were fucking in his house and in his shower?

I'd like your source about teenagers not using condoms.

It's... Common knowledge. Going to a high school and being around kids helps you figure that out.
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Postby Draica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:06 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
Viritica wrote:#he might not have been using a condom and protection doesn't always work

Protection doesn't always work in the same way that shooting yourself in the head won't always kill you. 99.99% of the time, if you're doing it right, you'll get the intended result. But if you do it wrong, then obviously it's not going to work, in which case there's always Plan B (literally and figuratively).



I'l concede, when used right protection does work against pregnancies and some STDs, but it is fact, FACT that HPV is not stopped by condoms and that it is the most common STD ever, and that most teenagers have not been vaccinated against such and can't either, because the reccomended vaccination age is 11-12. So, it's a win lose. Get cervical cancer < abstain from sexual relations underage or outside of a relationship.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:06 pm

Viritica wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:I'd like your source about teenagers not using condoms.

It's... Common knowledge. Going to a high school and being around kids helps you figure that out.

Common knowledge is the least common thing on the planet.
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The Emerald Dawn wrote:I'm pretty tired of discussing serious issues in a serious manner with people who are so divorced from reality that the marriage was not only annulled, any historical records or witnesses to the original marriage were drawn, quartered, burnt, and then boiled in acid and served to hogs.

Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Viritica wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:I'd like your source about teenagers not using condoms.

It's... Common knowledge. Going to a high school and being around kids helps you figure that out.

I can find you the source in a bit, but iirc teens are using contraceptives and condoms more now than they ever have before.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)


:roll: I'm not "rebellious" I just recognize that people should be able to make their own decisions about these things, and that patriarchal bullcrap about controlling female sexuality belongs in the distant past.


Its about parents in general, and them having the final say on what goes on in their house, and ultimately with their children, as much as possible.

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Postby Draica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)

How old are you? 600? This is the 21st century. You assume that taking a dick in the mouth is a bad thing.



You people are vivid, man.. :eek:
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:And how old are you? 14?
You'll understand when you grow up... the rebellious teen in puberty act will wear off eventually ;)


:roll: I'm not "rebellious" I just recognize that people should be able to make their own decisions about these things, and that patriarchal bullcrap about controlling female sexuality belongs in the distant past.

I agree. But doing it in the house where you and she live without permission without even notifying him or anything is just wrong...

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
Viritica wrote:Plenty of teenagers don't use protection. They thing pulling out before you cum somehow solves everything.

Your assumptions are irrelevant.

Also, can we not ignore the fact that they were fucking in his house and in his shower?

Actually, what you may not know is that when performed correctly, the pull out method is only a few percentage points below protection in terms of success. Either way, like I said, there is always Plan B or an abortion in the case of a mistake.

We're not ignoring it, we just have very different ideas about how property works. We acknowledge that now not all property within a family belongs to the man, you still cling to this notion that the man is somehow morally superior and therefor has control over everything within his house.

Source on that pull out thing, please?

Also, I'm not claiming he's morally superior. But the thing is they were fucking in his house and his shower. So, I mean, he has every right to be pissed. She doesn't have the god given right to fuck people in his shower. Sorry, buddy. ;)
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Draica wrote:
Riiser-Larsen wrote:Protection doesn't always work in the same way that shooting yourself in the head won't always kill you. 99.99% of the time, if you're doing it right, you'll get the intended result. But if you do it wrong, then obviously it's not going to work, in which case there's always Plan B (literally and figuratively).



I'l concede, when used right protection does work against pregnancies and some STDs, but it is fact, FACT that HPV is not stopped by condoms and that it is the most common STD ever, and that most teenagers have not been vaccinated against such and can't either, because the reccomended vaccination age is 11-12. So, it's a win lose. Get cervical cancer < abstain from sexual relations underage or outside of a relationship.

Well I mean, it's not like HPV magically disappears because the participants have their own house.
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The Emerald Dawn wrote:I'm pretty tired of discussing serious issues in a serious manner with people who are so divorced from reality that the marriage was not only annulled, any historical records or witnesses to the original marriage were drawn, quartered, burnt, and then boiled in acid and served to hogs.

Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

This just in: all cows are Hitlers. McDonald's releases the Heilburger.

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:08 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
Viritica wrote:It's... Common knowledge. Going to a high school and being around kids helps you figure that out.

Common knowledge is the least common thing on the planet.

Being around people helps you figure shit out. I'm not saying all kids don't use protection. But a lot don't.
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