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Should this man have been arrested?

No.
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Yes
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Neutral
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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:46 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
Draica wrote:I'm a teenager, believe it or not, I guess I was just raised old school and some people weren't. But I'd never do anything like this, I'd never disrespect another man's house and daughter like this. Never. Just putting that out there.

I'm also a teenager. I don't believe that having consensual sex is disrespectful to the daughter. However, I'm a bit lost. How would having sex with his daughter be disrespecting the man?


What I want to know is how it's disrespecting the fucking house
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Postby Streetgrind » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:47 pm

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Senkaku wrote:And if your daughter and her boyfriend came up to you and said, "do you mind if we have sex in the shower," you would totally say yes.

I would say: get a room! (somewhere else)
if they want to fuck they should at least pay for a room somewhere! Cuz otherwise it's kinda funny AND stupid if they are horny for sex yet not willing to pay for a place of there own... I am not running a charity or a WHOREHOUSE!

Well, if she isn't getting paid, it's not technically a whorehouse.

Also, wouldn't it be safer for you to be closer than sending them to find a spot in the great big adult world where some people find violence to be an acceptable form to settle disputes?
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Postby Kratu » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:47 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:I'm also a teenager. I don't believe that having consensual sex is disrespectful to the daughter. However, I'm a bit lost. How would having sex with his daughter be disrespecting the man?


What I want to know is how it's disrespecting the fucking house


Obviously the House feels violated that two humans had sex inside of it.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I would say: get a room! (somewhere else)
if they want to fuck they should at least pay for a room somewhere! Cuz otherwise it's kinda funny AND stupid if they are horny for sex yet not willing to pay for a place of there own... I am not running a charity or a WHOREHOUSE!

Well, if she isn't getting paid, it's not technically a whorehouse.

Also, wouldn't it be safer for you to be closer than sending them to find a spot in the great big adult world where some people find violence to be an acceptable form to settle disputes?

So what you'd let them fuck in your house and probably even hear them doing it? Are you some kind of perv?
They should get a hotel room!
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

Viritica wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Adults are not always emotionally stable. Adults are also hormonally driven. Adults are also at risk of becoming pregnant and catching STDs. Adults also do not always practice safe sex.

She said yes. It seems like, at this point, besides the antiquated morals from the 1500s, your only objection was that they did it in your shower.

It has a drain. If they for some reason don't use a condom (probably due to lack of education brought on by similar moral codes that would demand she stay a virgin until she leaves the house), his cum'll just wash right on down the drain.

Wash down the drain?

You... Really have no idea how anything works... Do you?

I'm done. Your credibility is gone. Goodbye.

You've never jacked off in the... Never mind.


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Senkaku wrote:And if your daughter and her boyfriend came up to you and said, "do you mind if we have sex in the shower," you would totally say yes.

I would say: get a room! (somewhere else)
if they want to fuck they should at least pay for a room somewhere! Cuz otherwise it's kinda funny AND stupid if they are horny for sex yet not willing to pay for a place of there own... I am not running a charity or a WHOREHOUSE!


So, basically, they can fuck in your house with your permission, but you'll never give them permission unless they buy their own place, which is incredibly unrealistic and harsh. So basically, they can't fuck. Or would you be chill with a public bathroom at some park late at night so it's deserted? Or what about their car?

I'm guessing you'll say no.
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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

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Silent Majority wrote:
No, it's called "being a decent human being"


No, its called being weak stomached individual with questionable morals.


The only people in this thread with questionable morals are the ones who think it was totally cool for the Step-father to beat up his daughters girlfriend
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Postby Streetgrind » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:I'm also a teenager. I don't believe that having consensual sex is disrespectful to the daughter. However, I'm a bit lost. How would having sex with his daughter be disrespecting the man?


What I want to know is how it's disrespecting the fucking house

This.

I'm pretty sure a house is inanimate. Pretty sure.

So unless they were doing hardcore kink stuff on family heirlooms, I can't find a reason as to how that's disrespectful.
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Menassa wrote:Why?

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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

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Riiser-Larsen wrote:FYI, you don't own your children. They are not your property, and you don't get to decide whether or not they can fulfill their own biological needs. It's perfectly plausible for her to have a great respect for her father- while also not necessarily agreeing or abiding by everything he says. I mean, I have a great respect for the Buddha, it doesn't mean I think I should meditate every single time I feel upset.

I never said my children are "property", I said it's her choice to make whether she will fuck a guy or not, just not in my house WITHOUT my permission!

But you seem to forget that it's not just "your" house. It's your families house. In the same way that you do not have permission to decide what someone does with a gift you give them, regardless of the fact that you bought it, you do not have permission to beat up a man simply because he had consensual sex with your daughter in your house. Your children are your children, but they are also independent beings. They are not your tenants and you are not their landlord, regardless of what they do, you don't get to dictatorially decide whether they can have sex in your (plural) house.

You can talk about it with your kids, and come to an agreement on how sex will take place when they're in a relationship, but in the same way that it is not morally okay for Hitler to say "Zere vill be no Jews in Deutschland", it is not okay for a parent to say "There will be no sex in this house, whatsoever, and that's final, you have no input or choice." You are a parent, not a dictator.
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Postby Pensalum » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

Draica wrote:I'm a teenager, believe it or not, I guess I was just raised old school and some people weren't. But I'd never do anything like this, I'd never disrespect another man's house and daughter like this. Never. Just putting that out there.

I'm a teenager as well, coincidentally 16, much like the kids in this article. How is the father's house being disrespected? Houses don't have any means of being offended, because they're houses. Also if the daughter consented, how is she being disrespected?
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
Streetgrind wrote:Well, if she isn't getting paid, it's not technically a whorehouse.

Also, wouldn't it be safer for you to be closer than sending them to find a spot in the great big adult world where some people find violence to be an acceptable form to settle disputes?

So what you'd let them fuck in your house and probably even hear them doing it? Are you some kind of perv?
They should get a hotel room!

So go for a fucking walk for ten minutes. It shouldn't take much longer than that.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:48 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Viritica wrote:Wash down the drain?

You... Really have no idea how anything works... Do you?

I'm done. Your credibility is gone. Goodbye.

You've never jacked off in the... Never mind.


The DG Elves wrote:I would say: get a room! (somewhere else)
if they want to fuck they should at least pay for a room somewhere! Cuz otherwise it's kinda funny AND stupid if they are horny for sex yet not willing to pay for a place of there own... I am not running a charity or a WHOREHOUSE!


So, basically, they can fuck in your house with your permission, but you'll never give them permission unless they buy their own place, which is incredibly unrealistic and harsh. So basically, they can't fuck. Or would you be chill with a public bathroom at some park late at night so it's deserted? Or what about their car?

I'm guessing you'll say no.

I'm talking about him cumming inside of her vagina. Or pre-cum getting in there.
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:49 pm

Viritica wrote:
Senkaku wrote:And if your daughter and her boyfriend came up to you and said, "do you mind if we have sex in the shower," you would totally say yes.

It's his house and his shower.

She has no right to be doing it in his house if he doesn't want her to.

Actually she does. It not just his house. He is the stepfather not a biological father. And please provide evidence the law where you have to tell your parents everything……?

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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:50 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
No, its called being weak stomached individual with questionable morals.


The only people in this thread with questionable morals are the ones who think it was totally cool for the Step-father to beat up his daughters girlfriend


You have it wrong there, friend. Those with questionable morals are those who vehemently claim that a father being violent about someone fucking his daughter in his house is somehow a wrong action.

You have it backwards.

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Postby Draica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
Draica wrote:I'm a teenager, believe it or not, I guess I was just raised old school and some people weren't. But I'd never do anything like this, I'd never disrespect another man's house and daughter like this. Never. Just putting that out there.

I'm also a teenager. I don't believe that having consensual sex is disrespectful to the daughter. However, I'm a bit lost. How would having sex with his daughter be disrespecting the man?


The disrespect appears when...

1. He entered the house without the man's permission

2. Had sex in the man's shower, the shower that he pays for, without his permission. He technically broke in. The daughter thing is a moral thing for me, I don't believe consensual sex with a condom on underage is moral, but that's my opinion.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Viritica wrote:Wash down the drain?

You... Really have no idea how anything works... Do you?

I'm done. Your credibility is gone. Goodbye.


If she works and has her own income she is free to spend it as she wishes, but I am not giving her money so she could whore herself out!
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Postby Streetgrind » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Viritica wrote:
Senkaku wrote:You've never jacked off in the... Never mind.




So, basically, they can fuck in your house with your permission, but you'll never give them permission unless they buy their own place, which is incredibly unrealistic and harsh. So basically, they can't fuck. Or would you be chill with a public bathroom at some park late at night so it's deserted? Or what about their car?

I'm guessing you'll say no.

I'm talking about him cumming inside of her vagina. Or pre-cum getting in there.

Safest way to avoid pregnancy: use a condom and finish outside.
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:51 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Silent Majority wrote:
The only people in this thread with questionable morals are the ones who think it was totally cool for the Step-father to beat up his daughters girlfriend


You have it wrong there, friend. Those with questionable morals are those who vehemently claim that a father being violent about someone fucking his daughter in his house is somehow a wrong action.

You have it backwards.


No. You do. We're not saying its wrong to be pissed. We're saying its wrong to beat a minor into a pulp over a sensual shower.

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:52 pm

Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:
Viritica wrote:It's his house and his shower.

She has no right to be doing it in his house if he doesn't want her to.

Actually she does. It not just his house. He is the stepfather not a biological father. And please provide evidence the law where you have to tell your parents everything……?

How is it her right?

They're the legal guardians, they pay the bills, they own the house.

She doesn't.

You sound to me like a rebellious teenager who just wants to stick it to mommy and daddy.
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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:52 pm

Viritica wrote:
Senkaku wrote:You've never jacked off in the... Never mind.




So, basically, they can fuck in your house with your permission, but you'll never give them permission unless they buy their own place, which is incredibly unrealistic and harsh. So basically, they can't fuck. Or would you be chill with a public bathroom at some park late at night so it's deserted? Or what about their car?

I'm guessing you'll say no.

I'm talking about him cumming inside of her vagina. Or pre-cum getting in there.

Why does it matter. If she's on the pill, and there's no chance of STD transmission or pregnancy, then why do you give a fuck whether he finishes in her or in a fucking balloon or anything? Is the sex somehow not "okay" depending on the location of the semen afterward, or do you just not understand how protection works?
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Thafoo wrote:So I guess leaving a negative environmental footprint now makes you a killer?

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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:52 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I never said my children are "property", I said it's her choice to make whether she will fuck a guy or not, just not in my house WITHOUT my permission!

But you seem to forget that it's not just "your" house. It's your families house. In the same way that you do not have permission to decide what someone does with a gift you give them, regardless of the fact that you bought it, you do not have permission to beat up a man simply because he had consensual sex with your daughter in your house. Your children are your children, but they are also independent beings. They are not your tenants and you are not their landlord, regardless of what they do, you don't get to dictatorially decide whether they can have sex in your (plural) house.

You can talk about it with your kids, and come to an agreement on how sex will take place when they're in a relationship, but in the same way that it is not morally okay for Hitler to say "Zere vill be no Jews in Deutschland", it is not okay for a parent to say "There will be no sex in this house, whatsoever, and that's final, you have no input or choice." You are a parent, not a dictator.


Wrong. A parent has every right to dictate such a thing. as they are the parent.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:52 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:So what you'd let them fuck in your house and probably even hear them doing it? Are you some kind of perv?
They should get a hotel room!

So go for a fucking walk for ten minutes. It shouldn't take much longer than that.

I beg your pardon?
It's my house man!

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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:53 pm

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Senkaku wrote:


If she works and has her own income she is free to spend it as she wishes, but I am not giving her money so she could whore herself out!

So now having consensual sex with your boyfriend = prostitution? It's not like she brought fucking Aqualung into the house, it was her boyfriend, it's not comparable.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:53 pm

Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
You have it wrong there, friend. Those with questionable morals are those who vehemently claim that a father being violent about someone fucking his daughter in his house is somehow a wrong action.

You have it backwards.


No. You do. We're not saying its wrong to be pissed. We're saying its wrong to beat a minor into a pulp over a sensual shower.


Taking a few punches is not being beaten to a pulp.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:54 pm

Streetgrind wrote:
Draica wrote:I'm a teenager, believe it or not, I guess I was just raised old school and some people weren't. But I'd never do anything like this, I'd never disrespect another man's house and daughter like this. Never. Just putting that out there.

I'm also a teenager. I don't believe that having consensual sex is disrespectful to the daughter. However, I'm a bit lost. How would having sex with his daughter be disrespecting the man?


It's not about having sex with the daughter. It's about getting caught by the father. I've known my whole life what that means; I get my ass kicked. That's what happens when you get caught; you pay the price.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:54 pm

Riiser-Larsen wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I never said my children are "property", I said it's her choice to make whether she will fuck a guy or not, just not in my house WITHOUT my permission!

But you seem to forget that it's not just "your" house. It's your families house. In the same way that you do not have permission to decide what someone does with a gift you give them, regardless of the fact that you bought it, you do not have permission to beat up a man simply because he had consensual sex with your daughter in your house. Your children are your children, but they are also independent beings. They are not your tenants and you are not their landlord, regardless of what they do, you don't get to dictatorially decide whether they can have sex in your (plural) house.

You can talk about it with your kids, and come to an agreement on how sex will take place when they're in a relationship, but in the same way that it is not morally okay for Hitler to say "Zere vill be no Jews in Deutschland", it is not okay for a parent to say "There will be no sex in this house, whatsoever, and that's final, you have no input or choice." You are a parent, not a dictator.

As I said, my house my rules, if her defense I wouldn't even allow my closest friend to use my house to have sex in it... so I'm applying it equally for everyone

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