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Duuuude Im Stoned
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:12 pm

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A serious talk about what? So what he had a sensual shower with your stepdaughter it was obviously consensual. Talk to your step daughter about who to shower with.

A serious talk that he better stay the fuck away from my daughter.

Obviously you don't get it. She wantsto take sensual showers with that dude. You'd just piss her off and end up in jail. Which would piss her off even more, and then no one would be able to prevent her from having anymore sensual showers. And then your entire plan just kinda fell apart....

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:13 pm

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So, you'd do something like this?

*punches kid*
"Since that didnt work, let me try talking to you."

First we'll talk if that doesn't work I'll beat him up. In that order :p
Rational men use words first and if that fails they settle it man to man. If a boy has the guts to fuck a daughter in another man's house he should also have the guts to settle it the old fashioned way.


Have you ever thought of just forcing the kid to leave the house, and not bothering talking to him or hurting him?
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:13 pm

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Pilotto wrote:A dude that bangs your daughter in your shower receives some testicular pain and a non-harmful, non-lethal electric shock? Sounds kinda funny to me.

Steel-toed boots, as LG was discussing, can crush someone's testicle beyond repair and literally destroy it. And tasers have a well-documented history of delivering a little too much power and accidentally killing people. They are intended for capturing dangerous criminals or defending yourself against muggers, not disciplining someone else's kid. And I think if you went with the boot to the balls, you'd get medical expenses plus the jail time.


For what it's worth, I was probably joking about steel-toed boots. I don't usually wear them. They tend to slow me down and make moving quickly through mud difficult. But as for the rest, like I said, fifty years ago, it would have been a buttload of birdshot. We're making progress I think.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:13 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
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Well, when you think something isn't wrong, you generally don't mind if it happens do you? And you probably don't think it should be punished.

A father protecting his child, his house, his rules is not wrong.

As LG pointed out, fucking someones daughter in the daughter's house has been an ass beating worthy offense for a long time.


Please, define an "ass beating worthy offense?"

I find it hilarious that the only solution people can think of is "violence." Have you guys ever once considered that there are other things you can do, like, something logical, such as kicking the kid out of your house, making sure your daughter doesn't have sex again etc.

Or do you think risking the life of a kid, and risking jail time for yourself is smarter?


An ass beating offense....fucking someones daughter, trespassing, stealing, high levels of disrespect, etc. One generally knows such an offense when it happens.

Violence is a great problem solver. I'm sorry you have bought the violence is always bad brainwashing that has been shoved down people's throats for the last few decades.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:14 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:First we'll talk if that doesn't work I'll beat him up. In that order :p
Rational men use words first and if that fails they settle it man to man. If a boy has the guts to fuck a daughter in another man's house he should also have the guts to settle it the old fashioned way.


Have you ever thought of just forcing the kid to leave the house, and not bothering talking to him or hurting him?

Not without defending my daughter's honor first! Since she has proven incapable of defending it herself it seems!

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:14 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Please, define an "ass beating worthy offense?"

I find it hilarious that the only solution people can think of is "violence." Have you guys ever once considered that there are other things you can do, like, something logical, such as kicking the kid out of your house, making sure your daughter doesn't have sex again etc.

Or do you think risking the life of a kid, and risking jail time for yourself is smarter?


An ass beating offense....fucking someones daughter, trespassing, stealing, high levels of disrespect, etc. One generally knows such an offense when it happens.

Violence is a great problem solver. I'm sorry you have bought the violence is always bad brainwashing that has been shoved down people's throats for the last few decades.

Is getting beat up going to stop the sex?
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:14 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
So, you'd do something like this?

*punches kid*
"Since that didnt work, let me try talking to you."

First we'll talk if that doesn't work I'll beat him up. In that order :p
Rational men use words first and if that fails they settle it man to man. If a boy has the guts to fuck a daughter in another man's house he should also have the guts to settle it the old fashioned way.

Great. I'm sure most fathers in their mid to late 40s will fare real well if they put a 16/17 year old who's probably in decent shape up against the wall. Sounds like a way to throw teenage boys in jail, to be honest.

You force him to fight, or "he has the guts to settle it man to man", and a 40-year-old in mediocre shape is not going to come out looking good against a fit 17 year old. That is the most idiotic idea since pistol dueling.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:14 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Please, define an "ass beating worthy offense?"

I find it hilarious that the only solution people can think of is "violence." Have you guys ever once considered that there are other things you can do, like, something logical, such as kicking the kid out of your house, making sure your daughter doesn't have sex again etc.

Or do you think risking the life of a kid, and risking jail time for yourself is smarter?


An ass beating offense....fucking someones daughter, trespassing, stealing, high levels of disrespect, etc. One generally knows such an offense when it happens.

Violence is a great problem solver. I'm sorry you have bought the violence is always bad brainwashing that has been shoved down people's throats for the last few decades.


So, if someone does something wrong, you should respond by doing something equally wrong and illegal?

I completely agree, that's why WW2 and the like went so well.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:15 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:First we'll talk if that doesn't work I'll beat him up. In that order :p
Rational men use words first and if that fails they settle it man to man. If a boy has the guts to fuck a daughter in another man's house he should also have the guts to settle it the old fashioned way.

Great. I'm sure most fathers in their mid to late 40s will fare real well if they put a 16/17 year old who's probably in decent shape up against the wall. Sounds like a way to throw teenage boys in jail, to be honest.

You force him to fight, or "he has the guts to settle it man to man", and a 40-year-old in mediocre shape is not going to come out looking good against a fit 17 year old. That is the most idiotic idea since pistol dueling.

Not unless the father is a trained boxer ( I train boxing)

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:15 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Have you ever thought of just forcing the kid to leave the house, and not bothering talking to him or hurting him?

Not without defending my daughter's honor first! Since she has proven incapable of defending it herself it seems!


That's illogical. She consensually had sex with the boy, she "gave up" her "honor."
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:15 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Have you ever thought of just forcing the kid to leave the house, and not bothering talking to him or hurting him?

Not without defending my daughter's honor first! Since she has proven incapable of defending it herself it seems!

This was also a very Spain-1500 AD thing to do, Trollgaard.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:15 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
An ass beating offense....fucking someones daughter, trespassing, stealing, high levels of disrespect, etc. One generally knows such an offense when it happens.

Violence is a great problem solver. I'm sorry you have bought the violence is always bad brainwashing that has been shoved down people's throats for the last few decades.

Is getting beat up going to stop the sex?


Potentially.

As I hypothesized a page or so ago also shows off that the father is still in charge and puts the youngblood in his place.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:16 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:Not without defending my daughter's honor first! Since she has proven incapable of defending it herself it seems!


That's illogical. She consensually had sex with the boy, she "gave up" her "honor."

Then I'll help her restore some shred of it.

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:16 pm

Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:
Viritica wrote:A serious talk that he better stay the fuck away from my daughter.

Obviously you don't get it. She wantsto take sensual showers with that dude. You'd just piss her off and end up in jail. Which would piss her off even more, and then no one would be able to prevent her from having anymore sensual showers. And then your entire plan just kinda fell apart....

I couldn't give less of a fuck what she wants. She's 16 years old and I certainly don't want her to get pregnant. I'm the parent and I'm in charge.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Steel-toed boots, as LG was discussing, can crush someone's testicle beyond repair and literally destroy it. And tasers have a well-documented history of delivering a little too much power and accidentally killing people. They are intended for capturing dangerous criminals or defending yourself against muggers, not disciplining someone else's kid. And I think if you went with the boot to the balls, you'd get medical expenses plus the jail time.


For what it's worth, I was probably joking about steel-toed boots. I don't usually wear them. They tend to slow me down and make moving quickly through mud difficult. But as for the rest, like I said, fifty years ago, it would have been a buttload of birdshot. We're making progress I think.

I'm pretty sure normal shoes will do the trick quite nicely. And just because fifty years ago people were unbelievably barbaric (in some regions of the US, which are not highly regarded by the others even today), doesn't justify this.

"Oh, well, at least he didn't shoot the kid! Back in my day..."
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Viritica wrote:
Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:Obviously you don't get it. She wantsto take sensual showers with that dude. You'd just piss her off and end up in jail. Which would piss her off even more, and then no one would be able to prevent her from having anymore sensual showers. And then your entire plan just kinda fell apart....

I couldn't give less of a fuck what she wants. She's 16 years old and I certainly don't want her to get pregnant. I'm the parent and I'm in charge.

So give them contraception.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:18 pm

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That's illogical. She consensually had sex with the boy, she "gave up" her "honor."

Then I'll help her restore some shred of it.


And beating up a different person does that?
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:18 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
That's illogical. She consensually had sex with the boy, she "gave up" her "honor."

Then I'll help her restore some shred of it.

Ask her if that's what she wants. Have you ever thought of the girl? No because you all have tunnel vision...

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:18 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Is getting beat up going to stop the sex?


Potentially.

As I hypothesized a page or so ago also shows off that the father is still in charge and puts the youngblood in his place.

She'll just find another guy.

Unless you go with the nunnery. Since we seem to be getting into the groove with this whole Inquisition-era Spain policies, why not?
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:18 pm

Viritica wrote:
Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:Obviously you don't get it. She wantsto take sensual showers with that dude. You'd just piss her off and end up in jail. Which would piss her off even more, and then no one would be able to prevent her from having anymore sensual showers. And then your entire plan just kinda fell apart....

I couldn't give less of a fuck what she wants. She's 16 years old and I certainly don't want her to get pregnant. I'm the parent and I'm in charge.

Indeed! :clap:
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Postby Silent Majority » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:19 pm

I couldn't give less of a fuck what she wants.


The key to great parenting.



She's 16 years old and I certainly don't want her to get pregnant.


Tell her to use protection.


I'm the parent and I'm in charge.


Both teens were of the age of convent, so no not really.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:19 pm

Senkaku wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:First we'll talk if that doesn't work I'll beat him up. In that order :p
Rational men use words first and if that fails they settle it man to man. If a boy has the guts to fuck a daughter in another man's house he should also have the guts to settle it the old fashioned way.

Great. I'm sure most fathers in their mid to late 40s will fare real well if they put a 16/17 year old who's probably in decent shape up against the wall. Sounds like a way to throw teenage boys in jail, to be honest.

You force him to fight, or "he has the guts to settle it man to man", and a 40-year-old in mediocre shape is not going to come out looking good against a fit 17 year old. That is the most idiotic idea since pistol dueling.


I'd say most 40 something dads could take most 16-17 years olds, yes. Most 16-17 year olds are lazier than their parents. The dad's would also come from an era when fighting was more accepted, and have more experience. Its not all brute force. Experience helps.

edit: Plus you know, the pschological effect on the kid of holy shit the dad is pissed would also help. Having a dad mad at you is not a good thing.
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Postby Draica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:20 pm

I love the new posts coming in. Love them. Much better than the "Uhh, it's ok for him to break in the house and have sex" arguments.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:20 pm

Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:Then I'll help her restore some shred of it.

Ask her if that's what she wants. Have you ever thought of the girl? No because you all have tunnel vision...

She may not "want" it now, but she'll thank me when she gets older and grows a brain (especially if the boy in question has dumped her which happens extremely often in teenager "relationships") Guy fucks girl, then dumps her, I'm trying to protect her from that!

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:20 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
That's illogical. She consensually had sex with the boy, she "gave up" her "honor."

Then I'll help her restore some shred of it.

Thank you for your report of this blasphemy, Don Elves. I will dispatch the Grand Inquisitor to deal with this scoundrel if you so please.



I don't know where you live, but if you were in America and did something like that, we'd call you a loony and throw you in the clink.
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