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Should this man have been arrested?

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:03 pm

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Kicking him out of the house.

Then have a serious talk with your daughter, but not with the other kid.

I'd definitely have a serious talk with that motherfucker too.

Yes yes, we know you'd beat his ass or scream at him or whatever. You must be sooooo much better than the rest of us.
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Postby Pilotto » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:04 pm

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Like I said, that was fifty years ago. Today, you just make him walk funny. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe we'll just tase them. ;)

Ha ha. Severe electric shocks and testicular bruising are so funny. Instead of getting him (and probably your daughter!) pissed off, why not just make sure they're doing it safely and in private? Better to make sure that they can have healthy sex with one another (because they're going to whatever you try to do), and will have good habits for the rest of their life, than to beat the guy up and get both of them (and the police) mad at you.

A dude that bangs your daughter in your shower receives some testicular pain and a non-harmful, non-lethal electric shock? Sounds kinda funny to me.

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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:04 pm

Viritica wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Kicking him out of the house.

Then have a serious talk with your daughter, but not with the other kid.

I'd definitely have a serious talk with that motherfucker too.


A serious talk about what? So what he had a sensual shower with your stepdaughter it was obviously consensual. Talk to your step daughter about who to shower with.

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:04 pm

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I never said "talk."

Don't put words in my mouth, mkay?

I'm basically saying that talking has the same chance of working as hitting does. Which is to say: very slim and situational... I'm not a flower picking pacifist like you.


Then why use physical violence, if it doesn't work either? Not to mention, it's entirely uncalled for.

Wow, instead of debating, you choose to flamebait.
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Postby Pilotto » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:05 pm

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Senkaku wrote:Funnily enough, that doesn't answer my question in any way.

>because she's not mature
>because she's not emotionally stable
>because she's a fucking teenager
>because she runs the risk of getting pregnant at fucking 16
>because it's in your house
>because it's in your shower
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Postby Maineiacs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:06 pm

I'd freak out too if I found some guy fucking my daughter in the shower. I might consider killing him, but I wouldn't actually do it. I would, however, have him arrested as my daughter is still below the age of consent (and I pray she's not sexually active yet -- I don't have custody). I'd also ground her for the rest of eternity.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:06 pm

The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."

The thing is it's not illegal *Everywhere* and you are acting like all people regardless of whether it's legal or not are "banned" from hitting a horny teen that doesn't know how to put his dick back in his pants! Talk about "freedom"... :roll:

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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:07 pm

The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."


Well, when you think something isn't wrong, you generally don't mind if it happens do you? And you probably don't think it should be punished.

A father protecting his child, his house, his rules is not wrong.

As LG pointed out, fucking someones daughter in the daughter's house has been an ass beating worthy offense for a long time.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:07 pm

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Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Like I said, that was fifty years ago. Today, you just make him walk funny. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe we'll just tase them. ;)

Ha ha. Severe electric shocks and testicular bruising are so funny. Instead of getting him (and probably your daughter!) pissed off, why not just make sure they're doing it safely and in private? Better to make sure that they can have healthy sex with one another (because they're going to whatever you try to do), and will have good habits for the rest of their life, than to beat the guy up and get both of them (and the police) mad at you.


Because that's not how being a father with a daughter works. Maybe it should. If it did, the poor schmuck in the OP wouldn't be facing criminal charges. But it doesn't. Maybe RObert Schimmel can explain the Curse of Fathers With Daughters better than I can: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuUEmGk20MA


Edit: ANd for the record, testicular bruising is hilarious. :)
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:07 pm

Pilotto wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Ha ha. Severe electric shocks and testicular bruising are so funny. Instead of getting him (and probably your daughter!) pissed off, why not just make sure they're doing it safely and in private? Better to make sure that they can have healthy sex with one another (because they're going to whatever you try to do), and will have good habits for the rest of their life, than to beat the guy up and get both of them (and the police) mad at you.

A dude that bangs your daughter in your shower receives some testicular pain and a non-harmful, non-lethal electric shock? Sounds kinda funny to me.

Steel-toed boots, as LG was discussing, can crush someone's testicle beyond repair and literally destroy it. And tasers have a well-documented history of delivering a little too much power and accidentally killing people. They are intended for capturing dangerous criminals or defending yourself against muggers, not disciplining someone else's kid. And I think if you went with the boot to the balls, you'd get medical expenses plus the jail time.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:07 pm

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The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."

The thing is it's not illegal *Everywhere* and you are acting like all people regardless of whether it's legal or not are "banned" from hitting a horny teen that doesn't know how to put his dick back in his pants! Talk about "freedom"... :roll:


I'm not saying he's banned from it.

So, you think freedom includes the freedom to inflict serious pain on others? Seriously?

Anyways, explain to me why hitting the kid was justified.
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:07 pm

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The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."

The thing is it's not illegal *Everywhere* and you are acting like all people regardless of whether it's legal or not are "banned" from hitting a horny teen that doesn't know how to put his dick back in his pants! Talk about "freedom"... :roll:


Hitting? He beat the shit out of the poor horny teenager.

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 pm

Pilotto wrote:
Viritica wrote:>because she's not mature
>because she's not emotionally stable
>because she's a fucking teenager
>because she runs the risk of getting pregnant at fucking 16
>because it's in your house
>because it's in your shower

Those too.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I'm basically saying that talking has the same chance of working as hitting does. Which is to say: very slim and situational... I'm not a flower picking pacifist like you.


Then why use physical violence, if it doesn't work either? Not to mention, it's entirely uncalled for.

Wow, instead of debating, you choose to flamebait.

I did not say it doesn't work... i said it has the same chance of working as talking does in different situations and different individuals, some people understand reason, others pain. :)
I'll use both and see if they respond to either.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."


Well, when you think something isn't wrong, you generally don't mind if it happens do you? And you probably don't think it should be punished.

A father protecting his child, his house, his rules is not wrong.

As LG pointed out, fucking someones daughter in the daughter's house has been an ass beating worthy offense for a long time.

And so has being Jewish.


Shall we get the pogroms started again?
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:08 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Viritica wrote:I'd definitely have a serious talk with that motherfucker too.

Yes yes, we know you'd beat his ass or scream at him or whatever. You must be sooooo much better than the rest of us.

I don't think I am.

You must think you're sooooo much better than me because you have no self respect.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:09 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."


Well, when you think something isn't wrong, you generally don't mind if it happens do you? And you probably don't think it should be punished.

A father protecting his child, his house, his rules is not wrong.

As LG pointed out, fucking someones daughter in the daughter's house has been an ass beating worthy offense for a long time.


Please, define an "ass beating worthy offense?"

I find it hilarious that the only solution people can think of is "violence." Have you guys ever once considered that there are other things you can do, like, something logical, such as kicking the kid out of your house, making sure your daughter doesn't have sex again etc.

Or do you think risking the life of a kid, and risking jail time for yourself is smarter?
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:09 pm

Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:
Viritica wrote:I'd definitely have a serious talk with that motherfucker too.


A serious talk about what? So what he had a sensual shower with your stepdaughter it was obviously consensual. Talk to your step daughter about who to shower with.

A serious talk that he better stay the fuck away from my daughter.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:09 pm

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Then why use physical violence, if it doesn't work either? Not to mention, it's entirely uncalled for.

Wow, instead of debating, you choose to flamebait.

I did not say it doesn't work... i said it has the same chance of working as talking does in different situations and different individuals, some people understand reason, others pain. :)
I'll use both and see if they respond to either.


So, you'd do something like this?

*punches kid*
"Since that didnt work, let me try talking to you."
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:09 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:The thing is it's not illegal *Everywhere* and you are acting like all people regardless of whether it's legal or not are "banned" from hitting a horny teen that doesn't know how to put his dick back in his pants! Talk about "freedom"... :roll:


I'm not saying he's banned from it.

So, you think freedom includes the freedom to inflict serious pain on others? Seriously?

Anyways, explain to me why hitting the kid was justified.

Because he'll think about it the next time he fucks the\another girl... duh!

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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:
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Well, when you think something isn't wrong, you generally don't mind if it happens do you? And you probably don't think it should be punished.

A father protecting his child, his house, his rules is not wrong.

As LG pointed out, fucking someones daughter in the daughter's house has been an ass beating worthy offense for a long time.

And so has being Jewish.


Shall we get the pogroms started again?


Totally not the same thing, dude.

Being Jewish is not offensive.

Fucking someone's daughter is offensive, especially to fathers. And brothers (kinda where I"m coming from in this situation).

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:10 pm

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The Scientific States wrote:It seems like the people who are defending the aggressor, only have one argument, which is

"I'd probably do the same thing."

That's irrelevant, since what the man did was entirely illegal, and in my opinion, uncalled for. Just because you think what he did was fine, it doesn't mean he should get a "get out of jail free card."

The thing is it's not illegal *Everywhere* and you are acting like all people regardless of whether it's legal or not are "banned" from hitting a horny teen that doesn't know how to put his dick back in his pants! Talk about "freedom"... :roll:

Well, it is illegal in the US, so just because some state on the far side of the planet lets people continue with a practice that should have stayed in the last few centuries doesn't mean the guy should be let off. He broke the law. You may think he was on the moral high ground. I disagree. But either way, he broke the law and he's going to be punished.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:10 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I'm not saying he's banned from it.

So, you think freedom includes the freedom to inflict serious pain on others? Seriously?

Anyways, explain to me why hitting the kid was justified.

Because he'll think about it the next time he fucks the\another girl... duh!


No, he won't. Horny teenagers want sex, no matter what.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:12 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I did not say it doesn't work... i said it has the same chance of working as talking does in different situations and different individuals, some people understand reason, others pain. :)
I'll use both and see if they respond to either.


So, you'd do something like this?

*punches kid*
"Since that didnt work, let me try talking to you."

First we'll talk if that doesn't work I'll beat him up. In that order :p
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:12 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Senkaku wrote:And so has being Jewish.


Shall we get the pogroms started again?


Totally not the same thing, dude.

Being Jewish is not offensive.

Fucking someone's daughter is offensive, especially to fathers. And brothers (kinda where I"m coming from in this situation).

It was to many in Spain in the 1500s. It still is in places around the globe. Russia has a long history of Jewish persecution, as does basically every nation in Europe. Being Jewish is also offensive to many states bordering Israel, and their hatred of Jews stretches back much, much further than LG's barbaric little turkeyshoots.
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