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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:50 pm

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Divair2 wrote:Do you actually think women are fertile the entire time? Do you know nothing about female anatomy?


If pregnancy is somehow as rare as you think it is, then how do you explain the insanely high teen pregnancy rates? Is it just a freak coincidence?

...That happens year, after year, after year?...


Lack of good sex educstion, which leads to teens not using condoms etc.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:50 pm

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Keyboard Warriors wrote:Yeah, beating the shit out of a teenager seems an appropriate response to someone defiling your shower and certainly won't drive a rift between you and your daughter.

I bet you wouldn't treat your son's girlfriends like that though.


And don't expect the state to have any shred of mercy on you if you beat up kids to prove a point.

I think in the eyes of many a father, and a mother, it seems rather justified. You see, there's this fancy thing called 'standards'. I know it's rather new to you but it seems to be something you might wanna look into.

Lots of parents have standards. Few parents beat up their children's partners and say what they did was okay and understandable. You're implying you're just in the former category, but your last few responses also show you to be in the latter.

And here we go with the sexist card again. *slow clap*

If you don't want to be called a sexist then don't say sexist things.

I wouldn't hesitate to throw her ass out either.

But you wouldn't hit her? Point proven.

I don't expect the state to have mercy on me. But if it's a heat of the moment thing, I'm sure there's plenty of judges who would understand.

Take your chances if you want.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:50 pm

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Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'd like to point out that I'm 41 and I've been married to my wife for ten years now. I love inappropriate nudity and many of the fun times in my youth involve streaking, or other similar activities. Admittedly, somewhere in the last few years it started getting 'creepy' so I have started to refrain from chasing squirrels around the house in the buff. Some people just wouldn't understand. :(

Still despite all that, I have yet to be caught naked with my wife in front of her father. Why? Because even at 41, I'd expect to get my ass kicked :blush:



That should be indicative of an unhealthy fear of your father-in-law, and you may wish to seek counseling. Although congrats on the ten years. :)


Thanks. :)

And it's not about my Father-in-law. I just have always had an understanding that if you get caught with a man's daughter you got your ass kicked. Fifty years ago you got a load of birdshot in the ass. That's just.... an effective reminder not to get caught. :p
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:51 pm

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Viritica wrote:As I said, thinking rational in that situation is a bit hard.

You don't have to hit him though. It doesn't require that much restraint. You can yell at his ass, throw him out of your house, nude and cold with his clothes in his hands, call his parents and meet with them rather than hit him. Which would also end up in you getting charged with assault.

I would understand if you did hit him, but again if you are, then you as better well do the same for your son. If you're not even going to follow your moral code as a standard, then why should I expect you to not apply a double standard to other areas of your life?

Look, I certainly see where you're coming from but thinking clearly in that situation is extremely difficult. Witnessing your daughter naked with her boyfriend in your house can do that to you.

You might not agree with my moral code, but it's how I was raised. It's not that I don't respect women, it's just that I don't hit them. I really don't understand what's wrong with that.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:51 pm

Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:Dang this is still going on!? :eyebrow: I though it would end when we established that he had no legal grounds to hit that poor guy who was having a sensual shower with his stepdaughter :blink:

Well, he might've banged her. But it doesn't make a difference. Whatever they were doing, it was consensual and legal.


At this point people are just trying to act like rednecks and say "if she was mah girl ida kicked the boy's ass to the Rio Grand," because they're so fucking edgy for believing in good ol' American Christian values.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:51 pm

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The DG Elves wrote:Beating *KIDS* has been a practice (and not that long ago) in many countries (including Western countries).
So unless you can offer a better solution which actually works, I'd continue hitting and slapping them... now if you gave me an 100% effective method I'd stop of course, but since I've yet to read of such I'll stick with the old ways.

It's 100% effective? So either you didn't hear about the abortion or she didn't conceive.

No I did not say that hitting\slapping is 100% effective... it's about the same percent as talking with them, still it has worked in some cases just as well as talks have in other cases. I asked you do you have a better solution which works far better than those 2? If not I'll continue using my right to hit\slap stupid teens. Because in Bulgaria this thing is allowed, and even if there is a law against it it is not enforced!

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Postby Kratu » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:51 pm

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Kratu wrote:The point is that you could make him respect you without resorting to violence or at least prevent negative things from coming from them having sex.

How? Do you have sufficient proof how that could be accomplished by using only "words"?
Until we find an effective way to truly educate our kids on safe sex I don't really see why you can't beat him it has worked in some cases (maybe not all but some) in the past so I don't see why the practice should be banned...

I can assure you that most teenagers do not want a child at their age or an STD/STI that enough should motivate them to practice safe-sex as the problem is that abstinence only education and such prevents access to Condoms and Birth Control. Also I just don't think that beating up a minor is justifiable when both are of consenting age in their state and both agreed to the act and if somebody has a problem with where the act is occurring you could tell them to try to find somewhere else but I still don't think because his daughters boyfriend and her were banging in his shower that he should have beat the boy.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:52 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Senkaku wrote:

That should be indicative of an unhealthy fear of your father-in-law, and you may wish to seek counseling. Although congrats on the ten years. :)


Thanks. :)

And it's not about my Father-in-law. I just have always had an understanding that if you get caught with a man's daughter you got your ass kicked. Fifty years ago you got a load of birdshot in the ass. That's just.... an effective reminder not to get caught. :p

That's the idea that needs to be fought. The societal violence problem.
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Postby Duuuude Im Stoned » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:52 pm

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Duuuude Im Stoned wrote:Dang this is still going on!? :eyebrow: I though it would end when we established that he had no legal grounds to hit that poor guy who was having a sensual shower with his stepdaughter :blink:


Nah, man. It's mostly diverged into hissy-fits about genders and the like.

Oh great, so it's deteriorated even more?

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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:54 pm

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Viritica wrote:I think in the eyes of many a father, and a mother, it seems rather justified. You see, there's this fancy thing called 'standards'. I know it's rather new to you but it seems to be something you might wanna look into.

Lots of parents have standards. Few parents beat up their children's partners and say what they did was okay and understandable. You're implying you're just in the former category, but your last few responses also show you to be in the latter.

And here we go with the sexist card again. *slow clap*

If you don't want to be called a sexist then don't say sexist things.

I wouldn't hesitate to throw her ass out either.

But you wouldn't hit her? Point proven.

I don't expect the state to have mercy on me. But if it's a heat of the moment thing, I'm sure there's plenty of judges who would understand.

Take your chances if you want.

Would I let them fuck in the shower? No. I really almost find it funny that this is such a hard thing to grasp.

What point are you trying to make? Would I hit her?

No.

This has already been established. Is there something wrong with this?

No.

Perhaps you would savor the chance to hit a woman, but I wouldn't.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:54 pm

Viritica wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You don't have to hit him though. It doesn't require that much restraint. You can yell at his ass, throw him out of your house, nude and cold with his clothes in his hands, call his parents and meet with them rather than hit him. Which would also end up in you getting charged with assault.

I would understand if you did hit him, but again if you are, then you as better well do the same for your son. If you're not even going to follow your moral code as a standard, then why should I expect you to not apply a double standard to other areas of your life?

Look, I certainly see where you're coming from but thinking clearly in that situation is extremely difficult. Witnessing your daughter naked with her boyfriend in your house can do that to you.

You might not agree with my moral code, but it's how I was raised. It's not that I don't respect women, it's just that I don't hit them. I really don't understand what's wrong with that.

I know you were taught to respect women; I was too. But I just feel you shouldn't have a double standard in your life by treating a certain group of people differently from another. That's just me.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:54 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Senkaku wrote:

That should be indicative of an unhealthy fear of your father-in-law, and you may wish to seek counseling. Although congrats on the ten years. :)


Thanks. :)

And it's not about my Father-in-law. I just have always had an understanding that if you get caught with a man's daughter you got your ass kicked. Fifty years ago you got a load of birdshot in the ass. That's just.... an effective reminder not to get caught. :p


By "effective reminder", do you also mean "potentially fatal wound near major arteries and organ systems that will be extremely prone to infection?" Because that's not really funny. Oh no, he banged your daughter! You know what you should do?

Shoot him! Brilliant plan. This will solve everything.
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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:55 pm

I have yet to hear a good 3rd option from any of you which would work far better than talking\hitting a kid?

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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:55 pm

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Kelinfort wrote:It's 100% effective? So either you didn't hear about the abortion or she didn't conceive.

No I did not say that hitting\slapping is 100% effective... it's about the same percent as talking with them, still it has worked in some cases just as well as talks have in other cases. I asked you do you have a better solution which works far better than those 2? If not I'll continue using my right to hit\slap stupid teens. Because in Bulgaria this thing is allowed, and even if there is a law against it it is not enforced!

Talk with them and have them use contraception?

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:55 pm

The DG Elves wrote:I have yet to hear a good 3rd option from any of you which would work far better than talking\hitting a kid?


Hitting a kid doesn't work.
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:56 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Thanks. :)

And it's not about my Father-in-law. I just have always had an understanding that if you get caught with a man's daughter you got your ass kicked. Fifty years ago you got a load of birdshot in the ass. That's just.... an effective reminder not to get caught. :p

That's the idea that needs to be fought. The societal violence problem.


Well, I'm a fair bit younger than LG, and hold similar views. Not going away anytime soon.

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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:56 pm

The DG Elves wrote:I have yet to hear a good 3rd option from any of you which would work far better than talking\hitting a kid?

Talking to them and contraception is far better.

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Postby The DG Elves » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:56 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I have yet to hear a good 3rd option from any of you which would work far better than talking\hitting a kid?


Hitting a kid doesn't work.

Talking to a kid doesn't work. (either)
Especially a puberty stricken teen who seeks release every 5 minutes and fucks everything that moves.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:56 pm

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Viritica wrote:Look, I certainly see where you're coming from but thinking clearly in that situation is extremely difficult. Witnessing your daughter naked with her boyfriend in your house can do that to you.

You might not agree with my moral code, but it's how I was raised. It's not that I don't respect women, it's just that I don't hit them. I really don't understand what's wrong with that.

I know you were taught to respect women; I was too. But I just feel you shouldn't have a double standard in your life by treating a certain group of people differently from another. That's just me.

I just consider it to be the gentlemanly thing to do. I might make a few exceptions but those would have to be some pretty serious situations. I respect my mother and grandmother and want to abide by what they taught me. I don't want to hit anyone.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:56 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Thanks. :)

And it's not about my Father-in-law. I just have always had an understanding that if you get caught with a man's daughter you got your ass kicked. Fifty years ago you got a load of birdshot in the ass. That's just.... an effective reminder not to get caught. :p

That's the idea that needs to be fought. The societal violence problem.


It's a nice thought. But I don't think humanity is there yet. Maybe in twenty years we'll be satisfied with phasers set on stun. ...to the groin. But we're not there yet.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:57 pm

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The Scientific States wrote:
Hitting a kid doesn't work.

Talking to a kid doesn't work. (either)

"Don't fuck my daughter!"

"Okay."

*fucks her somewhere else*
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:57 pm

The DG Elves wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Hitting a kid doesn't work.

Talking to a kid doesn't work. (either)


Kicking him out of the damn house does.

Why use physical violence? It's mean, doesn't accomplish anything, and it gets you in trouble. It's entirely aggressive and unethical.
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:57 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
The DG Elves wrote:I have yet to hear a good 3rd option from any of you which would work far better than talking\hitting a kid?

Talking to them and contraception is far better.

Exactly. Let them handle their own sex lives, and give them the information so they can do it safely.


Now, if the guy had jizzed on the upholstery or something, I can understand why the dad would've been more pissed. That's basically the only reason you could be mad about this.

But it was the shower. There was a drain.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:58 pm

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The DG Elves wrote:Talking to a kid doesn't work. (either)

"Don't fuck my daughter!"

"Okay."

*fucks her somewhere else*


I'm not suggesting simply talking to the kid.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:58 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Thanks. :)

And it's not about my Father-in-law. I just have always had an understanding that if you get caught with a man's daughter you got your ass kicked. Fifty years ago you got a load of birdshot in the ass. That's just.... an effective reminder not to get caught. :p


By "effective reminder", do you also mean "potentially fatal wound near major arteries and organ systems that will be extremely prone to infection?" Because that's not really funny. Oh no, he banged your daughter! You know what you should do?

Shoot him! Brilliant plan. This will solve everything.


Like I said, that was fifty years ago. Today, you just make him walk funny. Tomorrow, who knows? Maybe we'll just tase them. ;)
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