PlayStation 4 or X Box One?

[Estormo]

I am not entirely sure, I am going to buy one soon for Elder Scrolls Online.

[Irona]

I Game on PC most of the time but PS4 is my console of choice.

[Ifreann]

Why after all the iterations this has gone through, is this still a discussion?

Buy and play what you want, and what works for you. Who cares what any particular fanboy group says. YMMV, all that. Huzzah. I play what I play and like what I like, and I don't feel a particular need to be validated in that by a bunch of online posts to support those choices. I still can't gather why some do.

Well when some people choose between things like consoles, or operating systems, or car models, or any other big money/time sink, they can get emotionally invested in that choice. After all, if they made the wrong choice, then they wasted all that time and money, and no one wants to think that of themselves. So they try to convince themselves that they're right, and if they're right then the people who chose differently are wrong. Cue fanboying.

[Czechanada]

Why after all the iterations this has gone through, is this still a discussion?

Buy and play what you want, and what works for you. Who cares what any particular fanboy group says. YMMV, all that. Huzzah. I play what I play and like what I like, and I don't feel a particular need to be validated in that by a bunch of online posts to support those choices. I still can't gather why some do.

Yes, how dare people consider the social, political, economical, ethical, environmental, and artistic consequences of each platform!

[Tiesabre]

Aside from the fact some of my friends are on it, I'm finding a real hard reason to justifiy myself buying a Xbone.

For now a PS4 is in my future simply because of the games it offers and once their PS3 emulation streaming service is up I'll really be on board. In addition to all that RPGs are my favorite kind of game and Sony has always been the go to for that (I already have a 3DS)and those I expect to be even rarer on the Xbox than on the 360.

[Czechanada]

I prefer PC but if I must chose one I say PS4

You prefer a PC to the next gen capabilities of PS4 and X Box One?

The PC is objectively superior to next-gen consoles.

To argue otherwise would be like being a creationist arguing against evolution to a biologist.

[Desmendura]

I'm a PC gamer, so neither.

PC gaming is the only rational and ethical choice.

I salute you my friend.

[Antarticaria]

The only problem I have with PC gaming, Is the upgrade costs at times, Most of the time I can settle a deal or get some
"At Risk" Pieces which 89% of At risk pieces are outdated due to something stupid like a color change. But sometimes I can only upgrade something so far before I have to practically give a kidney for a upgrade or to just rebuild something all together.


(Im a gamer by heart so I love everything with a button, stick, pads and a set of interesting software and input)

[Western cuba]

I am not entirely sure, I am going to buy one soon for Elder Scrolls Online.

How do you think Elder Scrolls Online will work out? I think it will do fine on the PC; as many PC users are used to monthly subscriptions on MMOs. However that's unexplored territory on consoles. So I believe that Bethesda is going to repel alot of potential buyers with the subscription fee on consoles. So only the hardcore players will buy. But who knows, maybe I will be wrong.

I hope I am; I don't want this to be a huge blow to the elder scrolls series.

[Hindenburgia]

The only problem I have with PC gaming, Is the upgrade costs at times, Most of the time I can settle a deal or get some
"At Risk" Pieces which 89% of At risk pieces are outdated due to something stupid like a color change. But sometimes I can only upgrade something so far before I have to practically give a kidney for a upgrade or to just rebuild something all together.


(Im a gamer by heart so I love everything with a button, stick, pads and a set of interesting software and input)

Not really. The most powerful AMD on the market, which blows away both the PS4 and the XBox One (and quite possibly their successors as well, or at least remain competitive with them), is about the price of a PS4, and often less - a quick perusal yields prices from ~$370 to ~$420. Graphics cards are the only thing you would particularly want to upgrade on a PC with anything approaching regularity, and since you can buy a relatively expensive one and be well-set for this generation and beyond or buy a cheaper one each generation, there are options for those who cannot afford the up-front investment.

And that's not to mention the sales that offset the hardware costs even further.

[Antarticaria]

The only problem I have with PC gaming, Is the upgrade costs at times, Most of the time I can settle a deal or get some
"At Risk" Pieces which 89% of At risk pieces are outdated due to something stupid like a color change. But sometimes I can only upgrade something so far before I have to practically give a kidney for a upgrade or to just rebuild something all together.


(Im a gamer by heart so I love everything with a button, stick, pads and a set of interesting software and input)

Not really. The most powerful AMD on the market, which blows away both the PS4 and the XBox One (and quite possibly their successors as well, or at least remain competitive with them), is about the price of a PS4, and often less - a quick perusal yields prices from ~$370 to ~$420. Graphics cards are the only thing you would particularly want to upgrade on a PC with anything approaching regularity, and since you can buy a relatively expensive one and be well-set for this generation and beyond or buy a cheaper one each generation, there are options for those who cannot afford the up-front investment.

And that's not to mention the sales that offset the hardware costs even further.

The problem isnt one piece upgrades, its when your current build reaches its limit as far as compatibility and you cant through anything else on after a generation change and the standards of a computer are upgraded. Also there is alot more expensive AMD's, some are over priced in comparison to others. But as im sure we both know, theres a point in a computers life where the graphics arent enough and everything needs to be overhauled. Im not saying that your wrong, im just merely saying that upgrading cards works up to a certain point.

[Mavorpen]

Not really. The most powerful AMD on the market, which blows away both the PS4 and the XBox One (and quite possibly their successors as well, or at least remain competitive with them), is about the price of a PS4, and often less - a quick perusal yields prices from ~$370 to ~$420. Graphics cards are the only thing you would particularly want to upgrade on a PC with anything approaching regularity, and since you can buy a relatively expensive one and be well-set for this generation and beyond or buy a cheaper one each generation, there are options for those who cannot afford the up-front investment.

And that's not to mention the sales that offset the hardware costs even further.

The problem isnt one piece upgrades, its when your current build reaches its limit as far as compatibility and you cant through anything else on after a generation change and the standards of a computer are upgraded. Also there is alot more expensive AMD's, some are over priced in comparison to others. But as im sure we both know, theres a point in a computers life where the graphics arent enough and everything needs to be overhauled. Im not saying that your wrong, im just merely saying that upgrading cards works up to a certain point.

That's pretty irrelevant, since he never said anything otherwise.

[Divair2]

Not really. The most powerful AMD on the market, which blows away both the PS4 and the XBox One (and quite possibly their successors as well, or at least remain competitive with them), is about the price of a PS4, and often less - a quick perusal yields prices from ~$370 to ~$420. Graphics cards are the only thing you would particularly want to upgrade on a PC with anything approaching regularity, and since you can buy a relatively expensive one and be well-set for this generation and beyond or buy a cheaper one each generation, there are options for those who cannot afford the up-front investment.

And that's not to mention the sales that offset the hardware costs even further.

The problem isnt one piece upgrades, its when your current build reaches its limit as far as compatibility and you cant through anything else on after a generation change and the standards of a computer are upgraded. Also there is alot more expensive AMD's, some are over priced in comparison to others. But as im sure we both know, theres a point in a computers life where the graphics arent enough and everything needs to be overhauled. Im not saying that your wrong, im just merely saying that upgrading cards works up to a certain point.

I've had my desktop for years now. I haven't had to replace it entirely. No parts remain from the original, but at no point did I have to replace more than two parts.

[Salvageville]

Some things, such as zinc, or choose between models of the system console or a car or any other big money/time, but emotionally, their money all the time lost and the wrong choice and nobody wants it for themselves. So, they are trying to make other people choose wrong decisions to convict them.

[Hindenburgia]

Not really. The most powerful AMD on the market, which blows away both the PS4 and the XBox One (and quite possibly their successors as well, or at least remain competitive with them), is about the price of a PS4, and often less - a quick perusal yields prices from ~$370 to ~$420. Graphics cards are the only thing you would particularly want to upgrade on a PC with anything approaching regularity, and since you can buy a relatively expensive one and be well-set for this generation and beyond or buy a cheaper one each generation, there are options for those who cannot afford the up-front investment.

And that's not to mention the sales that offset the hardware costs even further.

The problem isnt one piece upgrades, its when your current build reaches its limit as far as compatibility and you cant through anything else on after a generation change and the standards of a computer are upgraded. Also there is alot more expensive AMD's, some are over priced in comparison to others. But as im sure we both know, theres a point in a computers life where the graphics arent enough and everything needs to be overhauled. Im not saying that your wrong, im just merely saying that upgrading cards works up to a certain point.

1. I assume you are either talking about your motherboard or your power supply (AKA PSU). If your motherboard needs to be replace more than every ten years, then you are getting ripped off. An 800 watt PSU (costing about $150-$200) will last you for a good fifteen years at least. even at the cutting edge, though you probably would be able to go with a <$100 650 watt PSU for about ten if you limit yourself to mid-range components.

2. Alright - the AMD Radeon 7970 is the most expensive consumer-targeted graphics card that AMD sells, excepting the 7990, which, while technically available to consumers, is essentially a showpiece more than anything, as it's $100 more for the same exact card with a single setting toggled in the included control panel software.

3. Er... No. There is no reason to need to overhaul everything in your PC at once, as components tend to age at different rates.

[Antarticaria]

The problem isnt one piece upgrades, its when your current build reaches its limit as far as compatibility and you cant through anything else on after a generation change and the standards of a computer are upgraded. Also there is alot more expensive AMD's, some are over priced in comparison to others. But as im sure we both know, theres a point in a computers life where the graphics arent enough and everything needs to be overhauled. Im not saying that your wrong, im just merely saying that upgrading cards works up to a certain point.

1. I assume you are either talking about your motherboard or your power supply (AKA PSU). If your motherboard needs to be replace more than every ten years, then you are getting ripped off. An 800 watt PSU (costing about $150-$200) will last you for a good fifteen years at least. even at the cutting edge, though you probably would be able to go with a <$100 650 watt PSU for about ten if you limit yourself to mid-range components.

2. Alright - the AMD Radeon 7970 is the most expensive consumer-targeted graphics card that AMD sells, excepting the 7990, which, while technically available to consumers, is essentially a showpiece more than anything, as it's $100 more for the same exact card with a single setting toggled in the included control panel software.

3. Er... No. There is no reason to need to overhaul everything in your PC at once, as components tend to age at different rates.

Im out of touch with desktops for the passed few years so i apologies if i came of eh whatever i came off as.
Ive just moved to laptops for the passed few years (well laptop ) for mobility reasons.

I dont have the money to even purchase parts right now, and even if i did i would only get to use em for about two months. Even my laptop will be left here for about 4 years.

[Slorch]

The problem isnt one piece upgrades, its when your current build reaches its limit as far as compatibility and you cant through anything else on after a generation change and the standards of a computer are upgraded. Also there is alot more expensive AMD's, some are over priced in comparison to others. But as im sure we both know, theres a point in a computers life where the graphics arent enough and everything needs to be overhauled. Im not saying that your wrong, im just merely saying that upgrading cards works up to a certain point.

1. I assume you are either talking about your motherboard or your power supply (AKA PSU). If your motherboard needs to be replace more than every ten years, then you are getting ripped off. An 800 watt PSU (costing about $150-$200) will last you for a good fifteen years at least. even at the cutting edge, though you probably would be able to go with a <$100 650 watt PSU for about ten if you limit yourself to mid-range components.

2. Alright - the AMD Radeon 7970 is the most expensive consumer-targeted graphics card that AMD sells, excepting the 7990, which, while technically available to consumers, is essentially a showpiece more than anything, as it's $100 more for the same exact card with a single setting toggled in the included control panel software.

3. Er... No. There is no reason to need to overhaul everything in your PC at once, as components tend to age at different rates.

7990 is a double 7970 so no it's not just a single setting

[Gallup]

PS4, just so I can play ESO without paying extra.

[Divair2]

PS4, just so I can play ESO with paying extra.

You like paying extra? How odd.

[Noahmerica]

I still don't understand why people do this. No one cares what you play, no one cares about your opinion, this is the Internet. Quit being keyboard warriors (by that I mean arguing/debating platforms) and play games.

[Gallup]

PS4, just so I can play ESO with paying extra.

You like paying extra? How odd.

Good catch! I meant without.

[Divair2]

You like paying extra? How odd.

Good catch! I meant without.

Then why didn't you say PC?

[Mavorpen]

PS4, just so I can play ESO with paying extra.

You like paying extra? How odd.

I'm more baffled at why anyone would play ESO in the first place.

[The Victorian Empire]

PC

[Divair2]

You like paying extra? How odd.

I'm more baffled at why anyone would play ESO in the first place.

Too poor to afford WoW.