PlayStation 4 or X Box One?

[Domenic and friends]

Neither, i dont see the purpose of spending 400 dollars on a new console. Im happy with my PS3 and will be for the next couple of years. I dont play enough to get a new console and if they keep making new games for PS3 im fine. I only play NHL, madden and NASCAR.

[Antarticaria]

Between the two, I have to say PS4. Despite the online pay, I still love the raw power that is majestically divided up to whats important.
I do like the Xbox however it does not seem to allure me like its competition.

As far as PC is concerned I love computers, I want a new custom made computer, Downside is everything is outdated within months or if your lucky years even if you throw 3 Grand at it. I do need two desktops (and a new laptop) in the future for game development and testing (IE: I favor Apple for development of software but simple PCs for gaming, Go figure?)

Whoa whoa whoa...now SONY is making you pay for online?

BASTARDS!!!!!

I wasn't aware that they did this (I don't have a next gen console and really didn't care about their details since I won't be buying one for a while...or maybe not at all at this point).

Well, I was going to say PS4 since I can't stand Microsoft and generally just like Sony products better, but shit, I'm probably going to switch to PC gaming now...

This is the last i heard is its a monthly or (was it yearly?) Service..... It bummed me out big time.

but since I am not getting a ps4 any time soon, however i have had on hands time with em. Personally A console or computer is danmnear useless for me since im enlisting within the next few months.... I dont think bringing a ps4 to basic would end well yah know haha.

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

Whoa whoa whoa...now SONY is making you pay for online?

BASTARDS!!!!!

I wasn't aware that they did this (I don't have a next gen console and really didn't care about their details since I won't be buying one for a while...or maybe not at all at this point).

Well, I was going to say PS4 since I can't stand Microsoft and generally just like Sony products better, but shit, I'm probably going to switch to PC gaming now...

This is the last i heard is its a monthly or (was it yearly?) Service..... It bummed me out big time.

but since I am not getting a ps4 any time soon, however i have had on hands time with em. Personally A console or computer is danmnear useless for me since im enlisting within the next few months.... I dont think bringing a ps4 to basic would end well yah know haha.

it's not that big of a deal, it's still cheaper than Xbox live and to be fair it was inevitable. upkeeping all those servers and the PSN service without taking any revenue in is exceedingly expensive not to mention that it makes it harder to develop PSN over the life of the console.

PSN was actually far worse than Xbox live, atleast in the previous generation, in my opinion.

I'm not so much worried about paying 50 bucks a year for PSN live, i just hope they use the money to give me a better service.

To be fair though, 50 bucks a year isn't a whole lot of money compared to the 80 bucks i spend for cable internet every month.

[Divair2]

Between the two, I have to say PS4. Despite the online pay, I still love the raw power that is majestically divided up to whats important.
I do like the Xbox however it does not seem to allure me like its competition.

As far as PC is concerned I love computers, I want a new custom made computer, Downside is everything is outdated within months or if your lucky years even if you throw 3 Grand at it. I do need two desktops (and a new laptop) in the future for game development and testing (IE: I favor Apple for development of software but simple PCs for gaming, Go figure?)

Whoa whoa whoa...now SONY is making you pay for online?

BASTARDS!!!!!

I wasn't aware that they did this (I don't have a next gen console and really didn't care about their details since I won't be buying one for a while...or maybe not at all at this point).

Well, I was going to say PS4 since I can't stand Microsoft and generally just like Sony products better, but shit, I'm probably going to switch to PC gaming now...

Should've switched long ago anyway.

[Czechanada]

Whoa whoa whoa...now SONY is making you pay for online?

BASTARDS!!!!!

I wasn't aware that they did this (I don't have a next gen console and really didn't care about their details since I won't be buying one for a while...or maybe not at all at this point).

Well, I was going to say PS4 since I can't stand Microsoft and generally just like Sony products better, but shit, I'm probably going to switch to PC gaming now...

Should've switched long ago anyway.

It always does my heart well to see people convert to PC gaming.

[Antarticaria]

This is the last i heard is its a monthly or (was it yearly?) Service..... It bummed me out big time.

but since I am not getting a ps4 any time soon, however i have had on hands time with em. Personally A console or computer is danmnear useless for me since im enlisting within the next few months.... I dont think bringing a ps4 to basic would end well yah know haha.

it's not that big of a deal, it's still cheaper than Xbox live and to be fair it was inevitable. upkeeping all those servers and the PSN service without taking any revenue in is exceedingly expensive not to mention that it makes it harder to develop PSN over the life of the console.

PSN was actually far worse than Xbox live, atleast in the previous generation, in my opinion.

I'm not so much worried about paying 50 bucks a year for PSN live, i just hope they use the money to give me a better service.

To be fair though, 50 bucks a year isn't a whole lot of money compared to the 80 bucks i spend for cable internet every month.

Haha dont catch me wrong, I love it and dont care about the pricing, but as I said me buying anything long term is danm near pointless right now given my situation.

[Divair2]

This is the last i heard is its a monthly or (was it yearly?) Service..... It bummed me out big time.

but since I am not getting a ps4 any time soon, however i have had on hands time with em. Personally A console or computer is danmnear useless for me since im enlisting within the next few months.... I dont think bringing a ps4 to basic would end well yah know haha.

it's not that big of a deal, it's still cheaper than Xbox live and to be fair it was inevitable. upkeeping all those servers and the PSN service without taking any revenue in is exceedingly expensive not to mention that it makes it harder to develop PSN over the life of the console.

PSN was actually far worse than Xbox live, atleast in the previous generation, in my opinion.

I'm not so much worried about paying 50 bucks a year for PSN live, i just hope they use the money to give me a better service.

To be fair though, 50 bucks a year isn't a whole lot of money compared to the 80 bucks i spend for cable internet every month.

You do realize it's not $50 or $80, right? By paying Sony or MS, you're not receiving internet. You still have to pay for internet.

[The 54th Squadron]

Silly console peasants. Go back to CoD.

[Ancient Magmia]

Should've switched long ago anyway.

I hate PC gaming though unless it's a strategy or simulation game. Playing with a keyboard and mouse is irritating.

But looking at the prices for PS+, it's actually very reasonable. So I will be getting a PS4 at some point.

[Divair2]

Should've switched long ago anyway.

I hate PC gaming though unless it's a strategy or simulation game. Playing with a keyboard and mouse is irritating.

But looking at the prices for PS+, it's actually very reasonable. So I will be getting a PS4 at some point.

If you find KB+M "irritating" you can use a USB controller.

[Czechanada]

Should've switched long ago anyway.

I hate PC gaming though unless it's a strategy or simulation game. Playing with a keyboard and mouse is irritating.

But looking at the prices for PS+, it's actually very reasonable. So I will be getting a PS4 at some point.

I just died a little on the inside.

[Ancient Magmia]

I hate PC gaming though unless it's a strategy or simulation game. Playing with a keyboard and mouse is irritating.

But looking at the prices for PS+, it's actually very reasonable. So I will be getting a PS4 at some point.

If you find KB+M "irritating" you can use a USB controller.

I would assume it would only work for certain games though?
Would it work for games like APB Reloaded?

[Divair2]

If you find KB+M "irritating" you can use a USB controller.

I would assume it would only work for certain games though?

No, because practically every PC game has bindable keys. You could bind it to an electronic ass implant if you really wanted to.

[Ancient Magmia]

No, because practically every PC game has bindable keys. You could bind it to an electronic ass implant if you really wanted to.

Huh...maybe I'll consider buying more games for PC now since I can use a controller.

Thanks.

[Solaray]

PS3 because there's nothing good on next gen, and plus I have Dark Souls 2, so that's all I need for now.

[Dalcaria]

Wait, people voted for the X-box One (also the number of good games it probably has)?

Anyways, I guess the PS4 in this debate, but frankly I wouldn't bother buying it. It doesn' have nearly enough games for me to want to buy it.

If you want to go to other consoles this gen, Wii U seems most worth my money.

But seriously though people......

PC. Enough said.

Oh, on that note, since I don't do MMO's and I'd be paying online fees to do online gaming on PS4 an One, PC is a far more economic way to go (especially since I'd probably need a PC to make use of the internet anyways).

[The Grey Wolf]

Neither, I'm just keeping the old PS3.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

OP, I strongly dislike you....Really, why bring this stupid shit here, they are basically same thing with a few things attached to keep them different and some exclusives. It isn't about the console, or the graphics, what matters is the gameplay and entertainment value and both systems legacies have done so, I am eternally a fan to all gaming platforms (which I have played) and respect those I did not play on.

My greatest memories will forever be on the Play Station and PS2, and the Super Nintendo, that was my shit, and I love the Xbox 360 and Ps3 too, my first 360 game being L4D, amazing experience. The Ps3 is also fun, I haven't played much of it but I like it still. And I have been playing on the PC for as long as I remember, just the same as the Nintendo and PS1 and all that, I remember those days clearly as well, and I still use a PC to play games (Though I need to upgrade now :/) All you did OP was invite either fools who think that their console brand loyalty matters, or PC master race fanboys who think that graphics make a game or whatever....

Maybe I'm too critical, hopefully some of the people responding don't just think about the graphics, or any other trivial thing and focus on whether or not the games are fun and whether or not it is playable.

[Western cuba]

OP, I strongly dislike you....Really, why bring this stupid shit here, they are basically same thing with a few things attached to keep them different and some exclusives. It isn't about the console, or the graphics, what matters is the gameplay and entertainment value and both systems legacies have done so, I am eternally a fan to all gaming platforms (which I have played) and respect those I did not play on.

My greatest memories will forever be on the Play Station and PS2, and the Super Nintendo, that was my shit, and I love the Xbox 360 and Ps3 too, my first 360 game being L4D, amazing experience. The Ps3 is also fun, I haven't played much of it but I like it still. And I have been playing on the PC for as long as I remember, just the same as the Nintendo and PS1 and all that, I remember those days clearly as well, and I still use a PC to play games (Though I need to upgrade now :/) All you did OP was invite either fools who think that their console brand loyalty matters, or PC master race fanboys who think that graphics make a game or whatever....

Maybe I'm too critical, hopefully some of the people responding don't just think about the graphics, or any other trivial thing and focus on whether or not the games are fun and whether or not it is playable.

Maybe you're being a little harsh on the OP, but I get your point and I agree with you. Gameplay and Entertainment value are always the key factors for me when buying a game. While I like a game with good graphics, that's just a plus. I can still play Halo: Combat Evolved without even thinking about the graphics. I just get so much entertainment out of it.

So when I hear someone saying that there respective console or PC has better frame rates and graphics it drives me nuts. Like look at Ryse: Son of Rome. I'm going on hearsay, but from what I've heard the graphics are beautiful but the gameplay is lackluster after a while. So to finish my post up, gameplay and entertainment > graphics.

Console fanboys just drive me nuts. Surprisingly I have never owned a playstation, my systems of choice having always been either from Sega, Nintendo, or Microsoft. But, I don't have a problem with play station either.

[Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich]

OP, I strongly dislike you....Really, why bring this stupid shit here,

It's a damn forum, where we talk about stupid and irrelevant shit that in the end never actually matters.
This isn't the U.S. senate.

they are basically same thing with a few things attached to keep them different and some exclusives. It isn't about the console, or the graphics, what matters is the gameplay and entertainment value and both systems legacies have done so, I am eternally a fan to all gaming platforms (which I have played) and respect those I did not play on.

Consoles are each unique, graphics is only one facet of it. No one is disrespecting Xbox one or PS4, we just have our own preferences. they are not basically the same, they each run off different software, different hardware and have a different variety and flavour of games in terms of exclusives. not all consoles are created equal.

My greatest memories will forever be on the Play Station and PS2, and the Super Nintendo, that was my shit, and I love the Xbox 360 and Ps3 too, my first 360 game being L4D, amazing experience. The Ps3 is also fun, I haven't played much of it but I like it still. And I have been playing on the PC for as long as I remember, just the same as the Nintendo and PS1 and all that, I remember those days clearly as well, and I still use a PC to play games (Though I need to upgrade now :/) All you did OP was invite either fools who think that their console brand loyalty matters, or PC master race fanboys who think that graphics make a game or whatever....

Us "PC master race" fanboys are just joking around, i can atleast attest for myself. I believe the P.C. is superior because i can do more than just play games and watch T.V. on it. it has a wider variety of uses besides playing games, not necessarily because it plays games better, even though in some cases it can.

the downsides of the P.C. is that some games won't be compatible whereas with a console it almost uniformly is, it costs significantly more short-term and it lacks certain exclusives. other than that, if you have the cash, it's a superior system in my opinion.


Yeah, there've been a lot of consoles in the past. SNES, NES, PS1&2 i personally had a sega saturn when i was a kid. But that's irrelevant, because this post is about PS4 vs Xbox one.

Console brand loyalty does matter, when we talk of consoles we're talking of a free market system. Brand loyalty is a factor in the Sony and Microsoft marketing plans, no doubt.

There's nothing wrong with being loyal to Sony or Microsoft, as long as you don't let it cloud your objective opinion of each system, Xbox one is a decent system, it's just not as good as PS4 in my opinion. Graphics, exclusives, hardware....all that and more is taken into account when i make that statement.

I am not a 'fanboy' of either system and i'll buy the one that appeals to me, the gamer. not because of some misguided loyalty to a multi-billion dollar corporation.

Maybe I'm too critical, hopefully some of the people responding don't just think about the graphics, or any other trivial thing and focus on whether or not the games are fun and whether or not it is playable.

once again, graphics don't make a system. Sega Saturn had awesome graphics, but it flopped.
Also, graphics are not 'trivial', they do matter. Other things matter, too, but it's not entirely irrelevant.

A lot of crappy consoles were 'playable' and 'fun', but had other things wrong with them that made them ultimately flop.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

It's a damn forum, where we talk about stupid and irrelevant shit that in the end never actually matters.
This isn't the U.S. senate.

The U.S Senate, doing relevant things, why whatever do you mean xP

Consoles are each unique, graphics is only one facet of it. No one is disrespecting Xbox one or PS4, we just have our own preferences. they are not basically the same, they each run off different software, different hardware and have a different variety and flavour of games in terms of exclusives. not all consoles are created equal.

Yeah...not disproving my statement at all, they are still a system which you play a game on in the desire for entertainment, the same thing.

Us "PC master race" fanboys are just joking around, i can atleast attest for myself. I believe the P.C. is superior because i can do more than just play games and watch T.V. on it. it has a wider variety of uses besides playing games, not necessarily because it plays games better, even though in some cases it can.

Yeah...speak for yourself, there are people who legitimately by into the whole console war shit from any side. And I don't give a shit if a person prefers a PC, my issue is when people act all high and mighty when they say their gaming platform is the best and that other people are below them. This isn't just a massive joking conspiracy, a few people on all sides joke about it yeah...but if everyone was joking then why get into pointless shit throwing context about it?

the downsides of the P.C. is that some games won't be compatible whereas with a console it almost uniformly is, it costs significantly more short-term and it lacks certain exclusives. other than that, if you have the cash, it's a superior system in my opinion.

And I personally don't like having to upgrade my computer to play a game thats why it isn't my preferred system, because as it stands now, the gameplay is to lagy and even the graphics are not as good as they could be, my computer needs to be upgraded for it.

Yeah, there've been a lot of consoles in the past. SNES, NES, PS1&2 i personally had a sega saturn when i was a kid. But that's irrelevant, because this post is about PS4 vs Xbox one.

Doesn't matter...

Console brand loyalty does matter, when we talk of consoles we're talking of a free market system. Brand loyalty is a factor in the Sony and Microsoft marketing plans, no doubt.

It doesn't matter because its the same shit in the end, just enjoy the damn games people, they only want your money in the end and will do their best to make sure the cash low continues, sure there will be nice employees that care, but in the end of the day its about money, unless you work for them it doesn't really matter, or at least it shouldn't matter to you.

There's nothing wrong with being loyal to Sony or Microsoft, as long as you don't let it cloud your objective opinion of each system, Xbox one is a decent system, it's just not as good as PS4 in my opinion. Graphics, exclusives, hardware....all that and more is taken into account when i make that statement.

You didn't make sure Gameplay was your first thing to consider But in all reality, it still doesn't mean shit, why be loyal to them, they did jack shit for you besides make a system for profit, that you just happen to want. What is wrong with playing on an Xbox, or a Wii, or whatever? My issue isn't with people who valid reasons anyways, its with fanboys that think they are high and mighty and ride the jocks of corporations as if they are somehow protecting them or whatever.

I am not a 'fanboy' of either system and i'll buy the one that appeals to me, the gamer. not because of some misguided loyalty to a multi-billion dollar corporation.

Don't recall calling you a fanboy, must have missed it....hm....

once again, graphics don't make a system. Sega Saturn had awesome graphics, but it flopped.
Also, graphics are not 'trivial', they do matter. Other things matter, too, but it's not entirely irrelevant.

Why are you telling me that graphics don't make a system? Thats my entire fucking point, if your going to do that your not worth it.

And Graphics are kind a trivial when compared to something say....gameplay, finished products, balance...etc.

A lot of crappy consoles were 'playable' and 'fun', but had other things wrong with them that made them ultimately flop.

Not a part of what I'm talking about, my points compare how graphics matter less than gameplay (As well as the whole fanboy issue.)

Also next time, please bold my statements and separate them or something, make it easier to refer to points.

[Dracoria]

The lack of 'Wii U', '3DS', 'PC', 'phone/tablet' and 'comedy option likely involving monkies' options will likely cause many to ignore the poll entirely.

No MMO's, no strategy games, no modding, no Teamspeak, no dual monitors, worse graphics, 30fps.


Why would I buy a console?

I actually agree with you. This is an unsettling feeling and I will now pretend it never happened.
MMOs and strategy games are about all I play anymore. Everything else seems to have suffered convergent evolution into 'guy running around with selection of weapons and can ride vehicles, also there might be a plot somewhere in there or multiplayer but not usually both. Here have some achievements.'

How can a mere PC offer the same enjoyment as a next gen game console?

This...I...

Far better games, and far, far more of them? It'll play games a decade old as well as those coming out next week? Tons of these games being free? Let's face it, if anything's halfway decent and not first-party, it'll wind up on the PC. Give it a console generation or two and even the first-party games will, albeit not quite legally.

Does Hawken have infantry combat with parkour alongside mech combat?

I'm iffy on the idea. Parkour requires a relatively dense, urban setting. Battlemechs require enough space to walk. Accomodating one on a map will mean creating an area where the other is next to useless. I guess there's always destuctible buildings, but that just makes things worse for roof-leaping infantry.

There are times when two great tastes don't taste great together.

[Chaunceys]

I prefer PC but if I must chose one I say PS4

You prefer a PC to the next gen capabilities of PS4 and X Box One?

I'm going to pretend I didn't just see this statement....

[L Ron Cupboard]

I own an original Playstation and a PS3, though I have been extremely underwhelmed by the games available for the PS3. They are over-priced, dull, and largely unoriginal. If I were to replace my PS3 it would just be to buy a DVD/Blu Ray player that could be made region free.

[Hindenburgia]

I am eternally amused by the way the PC/console debate has shifted over the past few years. Not too long ago, it was something along the lines of...
PC: Come and play! Our library is dozens of times the size of the console libraries!
Console: Consoles have better graphics. Sure, we have less games, but the graphics!

Then it became:
PC: Okay, now we have better graphics, too! Come on over!
Console: PC is too hard! Drivers and config and settings and I just wanna play my game!

Now it's:
PC: Okay, now not only have the last two become even better than they ever were, but now it's trivial to play pretty much any game that came out in the last fifteen years!
Console: [mixture of last two points, but now with an added "consoles have more games!"]

I'm simultaneously amused and saddened by this apparently cyclical trend.

EDIT: Oh, yeah - there's also the always-amusing "PC is too expensive" thing, but frankly...
It's somewhat silly.

Source: http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/11/03/ ... -long-run/