Should Immigrants to the USA learn English?

[Baron of Weitzenhoffer]

Simply; they don't speak English, are not culturally American, are not protestant. Some of them aren't even white. They do not belong here, and we definitely should not import their "values".



No we can't. America is a nation founded by white, protestant English-speakers for white, protestant English-speakers. Multicultural societies are usually fractured and divided.

Oh, so this is based on racism and xenophobia. Ok.

I want to preserve my nation's culture and heritage. If that makes me a "racist", then be it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Oh, so this is based on racism and xenophobia. Ok.

I want to preserve my nation's culture and heritage. If that makes me a "racist", then be it.

Your nation's cultural heritage is an amalgamation of all the cultures that formed it (which includes a lot). Your stance is not about preserving anything, it's about exclusion and racism. Not to mention xenophobic.

In other words, anything you have to add to this subject is irrelevant.

[The Scientific States]

Oh, so this is based on racism and xenophobia. Ok.

I want to preserve my nation's culture and heritage. If that makes me a "racist", then be it.

No, you don't. You do realize more than one culture can exist in a nation, right? We already have that in America, it works fine. We're all humans, we're all equal, why should certain humans be able to live in a place, but other humans not be allowed? It's racism, plain and simple. You even brought up that some of them aren't white, which means you think whites are better than others.

Just say it, you're racist. Don't deny it, we're not going to respect you less, since we already know you're a total racist and xenophobic.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Oh, so this is based on racism and xenophobia. Ok.

I want to preserve my nation's culture and heritage. If that makes me a "racist", then be it.

Your culture and heritage isn't anymore important than anyone else, your a Human, I'm a Human.

Unless you have the academic, economic, or biological advantage, your not better than me or anyone else, and the last doesn't mean shit anymore in the 21st century so try living in a cave if you want genes to help you.

[Alizeria]

Not until Americans learn to speak English first. My god, the things that country does to the language of Shakespeare... truly appalling.

[Prevnina]

Yes, otherwise they won't get anything done

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Not until Americans learn to speak English first. My god, the things that country does to the language of Shakespeare... truly appalling.

Most Americans speak English... The language of Shakespeare has evolved a lot, both in the US, in the UK and in every other country that claims English as a primary language.

[The Enclave Government]

Another simple question. Should Immigrants to the USA learn English? Should they be forced to take English classes? And who would pay for them?

I think that, yes, immigrants to the US should learn to speak English. That doesn't mean they can't speak their native language. Rather, it means they can better participate in the USA's economy. If you know a county's language, you have a leg up on those who don't. I would also make the classes optional, and paid for by the government.

Yes.

Or better yet, immigrants should GET TEH FUCK OUT! To pass highschool i need to learn a goddamn foreign language. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SPAIN OR CUBA, OR FRANCE OR ANY GODDAMN NATION.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Not until Americans learn to speak English first. My god, the things that country does to the language of Shakespeare... truly appalling.

Most Americans speak English... The language of Shakespeare has evolved a lot, both in the US, in the UK and in every other country that claims English as a primary language.

I think its a joke about how some people have poor grammar and spelling :|

[The Scientific States]

Yes, otherwise they won't get anything done

As someone who lives in a predominantly Hispanic area, where most people don't speak English, I can assure you that's not always the case.

[The Scientific States]

Another simple question. Should Immigrants to the USA learn English? Should they be forced to take English classes? And who would pay for them?

I think that, yes, immigrants to the US should learn to speak English. That doesn't mean they can't speak their native language. Rather, it means they can better participate in the USA's economy. If you know a county's language, you have a leg up on those who don't. I would also make the classes optional, and paid for by the government.

Yes.

Or better yet, immigrants should GET TEH FUCK OUT! To pass highschool i need to learn a goddamn foreign language. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SPAIN OR CUBA, OR FRANCE OR ANY GODDAMN NATION.

Are you serious...

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes, otherwise they won't get anything done

As someone who lives in a predominantly Hispanic area, where most people don't speak English, I can assure you that's not always the case.

As someone who has gone to areas of the state she lives in predominantly populated by Hispanics, I agree. The lack of knowing English doesn't prevent them from seeking and holding jobs.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Another simple question. Should Immigrants to the USA learn English? Should they be forced to take English classes? And who would pay for them?

I think that, yes, immigrants to the US should learn to speak English. That doesn't mean they can't speak their native language. Rather, it means they can better participate in the USA's economy. If you know a county's language, you have a leg up on those who don't. I would also make the classes optional, and paid for by the government.

Yes.

Or better yet, immigrants should GET TEH FUCK OUT! To pass highschool i need to learn a goddamn foreign language. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SPAIN OR CUBA, OR FRANCE OR ANY GODDAMN NATION.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Another simple question. Should Immigrants to the USA learn English? Should they be forced to take English classes? And who would pay for them?

I think that, yes, immigrants to the US should learn to speak English. That doesn't mean they can't speak their native language. Rather, it means they can better participate in the USA's economy. If you know a county's language, you have a leg up on those who don't. I would also make the classes optional, and paid for by the government.

Yes.

Or better yet, immigrants should GET TEH FUCK OUT! To pass highschool i need to learn a goddamn foreign language. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SPAIN OR CUBA, OR FRANCE OR ANY GODDAMN NATION.

I hope this is being ironic, given your shitty English.

Also, America, not being a nation...I find that a little hard to swallow.

[Pilotto]

Honestly, though, it would be in the best interest of immigrants to learn English. Makes integration a bit easier.

That's what I'm saying. It's beneficial for the person, but if done doesn't learn English, that's their choice, and it often has a negative impact on themselves, but it doesn't effect the economy, or the community, like some have suggested.

It seems to me that, since we only accept a very limited number of immigrants each year anyway, why would we want to accept those that are not willing to learn English? In order to be able to adequately function in American society, you need English. And, since there are always way more people applying for citizenship than we ever accept, we can afford to be picky. Why would we select someone that doesn't know English over someone who does?

[The Grey Wolf]

They should learn it, because it's simply the language that most Americans speak. A mandatory class for immigrants who don't understand English would be enough.

[Themiclesia]

They should learn it, because it's simply the language that most Americans speak. A mandatory class for immigrants who don't understand English would be enough.

This is my position largely; it's simply a matter numbers.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes.

Or better yet, immigrants should GET TEH FUCK OUT! To pass highschool i need to learn a goddamn foreign language. THIS IS AMERICA, NOT SPAIN OR CUBA, OR FRANCE OR ANY GODDAMN NATION.

I hope this is being ironic, given your shitty English.

Also, America, not being a nation...I find that a little hard to swallow.

Makes you wonder. If the US isn't a nation, according to this poster, what does he think it is?

[The Scientific States]

That's what I'm saying. It's beneficial for the person, but if done doesn't learn English, that's their choice, and it often has a negative impact on themselves, but it doesn't effect the economy, or the community, like some have suggested.

It seems to me that, since we only accept a very limited number of immigrants each year anyway, why would we want to accept those that are not willing to learn English? In order to be able to adequately function in American society, you need English. And, since there are always way more people applying for citizenship than we ever accept, we can afford to be picky. Why would we select someone that doesn't know English over someone who does?

Not true. Most people who don't speak English in the US live in predominantly Hispanic communities, where most of the population speaks Spanish, and most of the population doesn't even speak English. In those communities, they do fine, since everyone speaks Spanish.

The same can be said for predominantly Chinese areas etc etc

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

That's what I'm saying. It's beneficial for the person, but if done doesn't learn English, that's their choice, and it often has a negative impact on themselves, but it doesn't effect the economy, or the community, like some have suggested.

It seems to me that, since we only accept a very limited number of immigrants each year anyway, why would we want to accept those that are not willing to learn English?

Because they are willing to go pass our citizenship test and obey our laws, regardless of their inability to speak English? I mean, they are not harming anyone by not being able to speak the language, and they still contribute to the economy, in the form of labour, being a consumer, etc. So, there really isn't any real excuse beside your xenophobia.

In order to be able to adequately function in American society, you need English.

Many families get along just fine without English. In fact, in Los Angeles' Chinatown, most of the residents, the older generation, at any rate, have very limited competancy in English, and they still get along fine in American society.

And, since there are always way more people applying for citizenship than we ever accept, we can afford to be picky. Why would we select someone that doesn't know English over someone who does?

The question isn't whether we should pick only English speakers (because that is simply a stupid suggestion), the question is if we should pay for unnecessary English classes so the immigrants can speak English. No one is suggesting that we go on board every boat and spend hours testing them if they can give you directions to the library near the park from Kimberly's house.

[The Natenese Empire]

I think that it's jus polite to learn the language of the place that you move to. Now, I don't mean that we should make it illegal to speak other languages. Just mandatory to at least know the basics of English.

[Pilotto]

It seems to me that, since we only accept a very limited number of immigrants each year anyway, why would we want to accept those that are not willing to learn English? In order to be able to adequately function in American society, you need English. And, since there are always way more people applying for citizenship than we ever accept, we can afford to be picky. Why would we select someone that doesn't know English over someone who does?

Not true. Most people who don't speak English in the US live in predominantly Hispanic communities, where most of the population speaks Spanish, and most of the population doesn't even speak English. In those communities, they do fine, since everyone speaks Spanish.

The same can be said for predominantly Chinese areas etc etc

Those are some very isolated communities. If you ever want to venture outside of those communities, English is a necessity. I personally think it would be for the best if the whole nation spoke a single, unifying language. And, since English is just sorta the de facto language of the US (our laws are written in it), it seems like a pretty fair standard to me.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

I think that it's jus polite to learn the language of the place that you move to. Now, I don't mean that we should make it illegal to speak other languages. Just mandatory to at least know the basics of English.

I think it is polite to obey the laws of the nation that you move to, regardless of the language you obey it in.

[The Scientific States]

Not true. Most people who don't speak English in the US live in predominantly Hispanic communities, where most of the population speaks Spanish, and most of the population doesn't even speak English. In those communities, they do fine, since everyone speaks Spanish.

The same can be said for predominantly Chinese areas etc etc

Those are some very isolated communities. If you ever want to venture outside of those communities, English is a necessity. I personally think it would be for the best if the whole nation spoke a single, unifying language. And, since English is just sorta the de facto language of the US (our laws are written in it), it seems like a pretty fair standard to me.

No, they're not. It would not be best for the whole nation. Not learning English only harms the person, not the community. We shouldn't make smart decisions mandatory.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I think that it's jus polite to learn the language of the place that you move to. Now, I don't mean that we should make it illegal to speak other languages. Just mandatory to at least know the basics of English.

But why? The US doesn't even have an official language. Why make it mandatory, at all, to learn English? Granted, as I've said already, it would be in the best interest of the immigrant to learn English (it helps with integration), but be forced to, even at basic level? No. It makes no sense.