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by Western cuba » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:57 pm

by Sociobiology » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:15 pm

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:27 pm
Gallup wrote:Another simple question. Should Immigrants to the USA learn English? Should they be forced to take English classes? And who would pay for them?
I think that, yes, immigrants to the US should learn to speak English. That doesn't mean they can't speak their native language. Rather, it means they can better participate in the USA's economy. If you know a county's language, you have a leg up on those who don't. I would also make the classes optional, and paid for by the government.

by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:29 pm
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by Viritica » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:29 pm
The Scientific States wrote:Gallup wrote:Another simple question. Should Immigrants to the USA learn English? Should they be forced to take English classes? And who would pay for them?
I think that, yes, immigrants to the US should learn to speak English. That doesn't mean they can't speak their native language. Rather, it means they can better participate in the USA's economy. If you know a county's language, you have a leg up on those who don't. I would also make the classes optional, and paid for by the government.
No, of course not. It's a violation of their personal freedom, and it's effect on the US economy is non-existent.
In some predominantly spanish speaking communities, it's better if they speak Spanish, for their local economy, and local community.
Now, I do think it's beneficial if immigrants voluntarily learn English, but forcing them to? No.

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:31 pm
Viritica wrote:The Scientific States wrote:
No, of course not. It's a violation of their personal freedom, and it's effect on the US economy is non-existent.
In some predominantly spanish speaking communities, it's better if they speak Spanish, for their local economy, and local community.
Now, I do think it's beneficial if immigrants voluntarily learn English, but forcing them to? No.
It should be a requirement for citizenship.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:33 pm
The Scientific States wrote:Viritica wrote:It should be a requirement for citizenship.
Why?
It should be recommended, but not required. I see no real reason to enforce a language on someone else. If someone wishes to be a citizen, and aren't criminals, and are here legally, they should be able to have citizenship.
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by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:36 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:The Scientific States wrote:
Why?
It should be recommended, but not required. I see no real reason to enforce a language on someone else. If someone wishes to be a citizen, and aren't criminals, and are here legally, they should be able to have citizenship.
It would cause more problems than benefits, especially for people applying for political asylum on the spot (like Cubans).

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:37 pm
The Scientific States wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It would cause more problems than benefits, especially for people applying for political asylum on the spot (like Cubans).
Exactly. Learning English as an immigrant is a wise idea for one's self, but it's effect on the entire community is beyond minimal.
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by Baron of Weitzenhoffer » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:37 pm

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:38 pm

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:38 pm
Baron of Weitzenhoffer wrote:We shouldn't even take in immigrants, in the first place.

by Viritica » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:38 pm
The Scientific States wrote:Viritica wrote:It should be a requirement for citizenship.
Why?
It should be recommended, but not required. I see no real reason to enforce a language on someone else. If someone wishes to be a citizen, and aren't criminals, and are here legally, they should be able to have citizenship.

by Baron of Weitzenhoffer » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:39 pm

by Lemanrussland » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:43 pm

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:43 pm

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:44 pm
Viritica wrote:The Scientific States wrote:
Why?
It should be recommended, but not required. I see no real reason to enforce a language on someone else. If someone wishes to be a citizen, and aren't criminals, and are here legally, they should be able to have citizenship.
I'm not saying they should be forced to learn it. What I am saying is that fluency in English should be a requirement.
If you're going to immigrate to a country why would you not want to learn that country's primary language? It'd make life easier on you and many of the people you associate with.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:44 pm
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by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:45 pm
News - 10/27/2558: Deglassing of Reach is going smoother than expected. | First prototype laser rifle is beginning experimentation. | The Sangheili Civil War is officially over, Arbiter Thel'Vadam and his Swords of Sanghelios have successfully eliminated remaining Covenant cells on Sanghelios. | President Ruth Charet to hold press meeting within the hour on the end of the Sangheili Civil War. | The Citadel Council official introduces the Unggoy as a member of the Citadel.

by Baron of Weitzenhoffer » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:46 pm
The Scientific States wrote:Explain how that would happen?
The Scientific States wrote:We need immigrants for our economy, but we can have more than one culture.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:47 pm
Baron of Weitzenhoffer wrote:The Scientific States wrote:Explain how that would happen?
Simply; they don't speak English, are not culturally American, are not protestant. Some of them aren't even white. They do not belong here, and we definitely should not import their "values".The Scientific States wrote:We need immigrants for our economy, but we can have more than one culture.
No we can't. America is a nation founded by white, protestant English-speakers for white, protestant English-speakers. Multicultural societies are usually fractured and divided.
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by Fascist Russian Empire » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:47 pm

by Lemanrussland » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 pm
Western cuba wrote:I believe they should, it's essential for communication in the States.
However though, we should be learning second languages as well. The lack of teaching other languages in education has always shocked me. For example, the high school I teach at only requires two credits of a foreign language to graduate. After that, you never have to bother with a foreign language again.
So it's both ways, immigrants should learn English and we should be informed and knowledgeable citizens and know multiple languages besides English.

by The Scientific States » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 pm
Baron of Weitzenhoffer wrote:The Scientific States wrote:Explain how that would happen?
Simply; they don't speak English, are not culturally American, are not protestant. Some of them aren't even white. They do not belong here, and we definitely should not import their "values".The Scientific States wrote:We need immigrants for our economy, but we can have more than one culture.
No we can't. America is a nation founded by white, protestant English-speakers for white, protestant English-speakers. Multicultural societies are usually fractured and divided.

by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:48 pm
Baron of Weitzenhoffer wrote:The Scientific States wrote:Explain how that would happen?
Simply; they don't speak English, are not culturally American, are not protestant. Some of them aren't even white. They do not belong here, and we definitely should not import their "values".The Scientific States wrote:We need immigrants for our economy, but we can have more than one culture.
No we can't. America is a nation founded by white, protestant English-speakers for white, protestant English-speakers. Multicultural societies are usually fractured and divided.
News - 10/27/2558: Deglassing of Reach is going smoother than expected. | First prototype laser rifle is beginning experimentation. | The Sangheili Civil War is officially over, Arbiter Thel'Vadam and his Swords of Sanghelios have successfully eliminated remaining Covenant cells on Sanghelios. | President Ruth Charet to hold press meeting within the hour on the end of the Sangheili Civil War. | The Citadel Council official introduces the Unggoy as a member of the Citadel.
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