Guidelines on drawing up Islamic wills issued

[Farnhamia]

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[Talonis]

I mean, its their cash/belongings, so ah, what exactly is wrong with giving money to people in a way you want to? My issue here is that we need a reason for NOT giving people free cash. By this (presently standing, without the Islam rule) logic, I should have to argue for every penny I fail to spend on groceries. But the decision doesn't go far enough. You should be able to give money/stuff to whomever you want on death, for any reason, just like when you're alive.

What happened to honoring a last request?

[Ethel mermania]

I was under the impression you could impose such conditions in a normal Will and Testament, surely?

Not really seeing what the fuss is about. It's their inheritances to give away. Let them stipulate as they please.

But it will increase the discrimination against non-believers and females. For example, a Muslim man could block a non-believing relative from receiving their inheritance, or block a female from receiving it as well.

in the us you can distribute your assets anyway you want. the same things can be acccoplished, inheranances are at the will of the dying person, not of the state. if the muslim dies without a will his money will be distributed to daughters and non belikeving sons, as directed by british law.

[The UK in Exile]

I mean, its their cash/belongings, so ah, what exactly is wrong with giving money to people in a way you want to? My issue here is that we need a reason for NOT giving people free cash. By this (presently standing, without the Islam rule) logic, I should have to argue for every penny I fail to spend on groceries. But the decision doesn't go far enough. You should be able to give money/stuff to whomever you want on death, for any reason, just like when you're alive.

What happened to honoring a last request?

Many of them were pointless, stupid, vindictive or needlessly vague. Thus the general rule is to honor reasonable last requests.

[Ethel mermania]

It is the principle of the matter that counts, if the British government allows this, then eventually the Muslims in the UK will try their luck in pushing for more concessions until Sharia law actually is enshrined by law as Muslims grow into a larger majority through immigration or higher birthrates. Eurabia needs to be preemptively stopped.

You do realize no laws changed right?

A group, that isn't even a true governmental group, issued voluntary guidelines for Islamic people's inheritances and wills.

Nothing changed. Nothing happened. There were no added laws. There will be no Eurabia, Muslims aren't taking over Europe, Muslims aren't bad, even though you think they are for some reason.

tbf, excluding people because they have vagina's is a pretty shitty thing to do.

[Salandriagado]

You do realize no laws changed right?

A group, that isn't even a true governmental group, issued voluntary guidelines for Islamic people's inheritances and wills.

Nothing changed. Nothing happened. There were no added laws. There will be no Eurabia, Muslims aren't taking over Europe, Muslims aren't bad, even though you think they are for some reason.

tbf, excluding people because they have vagina's is a pretty shitty thing to do.

Oh, yeah, entirely. But it's fuck all to do with the government, and in no way anything to do with what Saiwania is claiming is happening on his little personal crusade.

[Gravlen]

I mean, its their cash/belongings, so ah, what exactly is wrong with giving money to people in a way you want to? My issue here is that we need a reason for NOT giving people free cash. By this (presently standing, without the Islam rule) logic, I should have to argue for every penny I fail to spend on groceries. But the decision doesn't go far enough. You should be able to give money/stuff to whomever you want on death, for any reason, just like when you're alive.

What happened to honoring a last request?

Hitler. Hitler happened. *nod*

I mean, think about it. Would you really have honored his last request? Really?

So I guess what I'm saying is, if you allow muslims to create wills according to British law, Hitler wins.

I think. I might be confused...

[New Aerios]

Oh god it's fucking Eurabia it's happening it's happening it's happeni-

Oh. Right.

[Ethel mermania]

tbf, excluding people because they have vagina's is a pretty shitty thing to do.

Oh, yeah, entirely. But it's fuck all to do with the government, and in no way anything to do with what Saiwania is claiming is happening on his little personal crusade.

agreed, in the sense that there is nothing new here. in fact if a client wants this, it is his lawyer's resposibility to do his best job at it, which includes receiving training. its bad people want to do this, but as long as its legal, (and i think it should be). there is really nothing to see here.

[Hyosong]

I can't think of a more boring non-issue.

Of course, the original title of the thread, which was something like "Sharia Law Comes to the UK", likely got some posters' blood pressure to rise.

[Wind in the Willows]

I can't think of a more boring non-issue.

Of course, the original title of the thread, which was something like "Sharia Law Comes to the UK", likely got some posters' blood pressure to rise.

It was the same title as the news articles.

[Geilinor]

I can't think of a more boring non-issue.

Of course, the original title of the thread, which was something like "Sharia Law Comes to the UK", likely got some posters' blood pressure to rise.

It was the same title as the news articles.

Reporters have their biases.

[Tekania]

So, a legal society drafts guidelines for solicitors so they can better serve their Muslim clientele when assisting them with the drafting of their final will and testament..... How is this an issue again? I really do not see the problem anywhere here. Someone may need to explain to me where the problem is.

[Viritica]

Britain, what are you doing? That's not equality.

It's time we move past these primitive beliefs.

[Farnhamia]

So, a legal society drafts guidelines for solicitors so they can better serve their Muslim clientele when assisting them with the drafting of their final will and testament..... How is this an issue again? I really do not see the problem anywhere here. Someone may need to explain to me where the problem is.

We have to litigate them over there or we'll end up having to litigate them over here. Or, you know, evil Mooslemans. Or something something.

[Farnhamia]

Britain, what are you doing? That's not equality.

It's time we move past these primitive beliefs.

"Britain" is not doing anything. I suspect you haven't read the thread.

[Viritica]

Britain, what are you doing? That's not equality.

It's time we move past these primitive beliefs.

"Britain" is not doing anything. I suspect you haven't read the thread.

Fine, British citizens (or immigrants to Britain).

[The Scientific States]

"Britain" is not doing anything. I suspect you haven't read the thread.

Fine, British citizens (or immigrants to Britain).

That's not the topic of this thread.

Do you want to know what happened? No laws were changed, no laws were enacted, nothing whatsoever changed in Britain. The point of the thread is to discuss a voluntary guideline crested by a non-governmental agency, and it's objective was essentially guidelines on Islamic wills and inheritances.

Nothing changed whatsoever, and discussing Islamic immigration in Britain is not the point of this thread. You say you're libertarian, but you sound more and more like a far-right nationalist every time I see you post.

[The Scientific States]

It was the same title as the news articles.

Reporters have their biases.

Especially RT.

[Wolfmanne]

Do people know that the Law Society is just a professional body for solicitors? So, in essence, it's just a guideline for solicitors who have clients wanting have wills issued Islamic style.

[Empire of Narnia]

Why is this an issue? I have a feeling people are just using this to incite hatred against Muslims.

[Tekania]

Do people know that the Law Society is just a professional body for solicitors? So, in essence, it's just a guideline for solicitors who have clients wanting have wills issued Islamic style.

Yes people know that..... just that there seem to be a number of people involved in this thread who do not.

It's a pretty steady trend of late for people to post things that show a clear indication that they either (1) did not read the articles or (2) cannot understand what is being said due to a lack of knowledge on what the articles mean. The lazy and/or ignorant have equal right to express their "opinions". And the knowledgeable and attentive have a right to recognize those opinions as worthless bullshit.

[Quintium]

Personally, I think we should not pander to this demand in any way.
If they want to award women half of what they award men in wills, they can do it in their own countries.

[Frials]

Personally, I think we should not pander to this demand in any way.
If they want to award women half of what they award men in wills, they can do it in their own countries.

It's their own property, so why not let the muslims decide for it themselves?

[The Scientific States]

Personally, I think we should not pander to this demand in any way.
If they want to award women half of what they award men in wills, they can do it in their own countries.

You do realize that under British law, one can do that anyway.

This guideline changes nothing. For some reason, I doubt you reds the articles.