Autistic child jeered out of movie theater

[Kvatchdom]

I don't troll, trolls are 12 year old little shits. I try to make sense but it's hard, and I think I should be sleeping.

what you were doing is trolling, there is quite a bit of research on how to raise a child with autism, plenty of folks do it every day, or know people who do it. greenspan, loovas, and hundreds of other have published reams of data that show how to do it.

If I were to attempt to make people react negatively to my post, that would be trolling. Trolling is a stupid word and it should die out.

[Ethel mermania]

Glad to hear they are cheaper in Sydney. But my local area is quite expensive. For example this:

https://www.hoyts.com.au/times_and_tick ... DN&s=96192
$22.50 for the current 300: Rise of Empire movie. And that's not even the 3D version. The 3D version is $26.50

That's insane. Perhaps it's the amount of competition in Sydney and some of the suburbs that does it, though I was out in Orange recently, and their adult tickets were only $16. I was expecting a lot worse from a regional city.

"...know he is,” the woman shot back as she lunged forward and pounded on her chest. “But why should the rest of us have to suffer.”


this is the quote, you mean she meant the other woman pounded on her own chest perhaps? i find the account overly dramatic. and its the mothers fault. they make earplugs and headphones to lower volume for the kids or even filter out specific frequencies if thats whats bothering the kid.

No, looks like I was wrong. Totally misread that. The Patty woman should totally have reported that another patron had gotten physical.

And true, though that defeats the point of the cinema somewhat. The account made it sound like they've been to the cinema before, and she's seen the behavior before and she knows he ok once their beyond the transitions (which is also fairly common with a number of types of mental conditions that just need time for the individual to settle).

i think your right about her thought process, but if the kid is noises sensitive she is torturing the kid with the volume. here they even do broadway plays for kids with sensitiviteies

http://www.broadwayworld.com/westend/ar ... y-20140226

[Ningirsu]

This definitely isn't a sensationalist, one-sided piece.

If I was trying to watch a movie and some kid started screaming about how he wanted to go home, I'd lose my mind and tell the mother to shut him up, too. Was it wrong of them to call the kid retarded and cheer them as they left? Absolutely. But in all honesty, I probably would've done the same thing in their situation. If you know your child has violent reactions to movies, holy fuck don't take him to the movies. Nifty new invention called a DVD player, or Netflix if you're 'in the know.' If your child is special needs and you know that he reacts unpredictably, and you see him acting up, take him outside and calm him down. I'm sure that he wasn't just shouting, "I want to go home," out of boredom, he was probably scared out of his mind.

You'd have continued to heckled the guy even as he was leaving, over something he has no control over?

I'd pity you for having you're cinema going experience disrupted for the couple of minutes happened, but not if you continued to harp on it even as the people were leaving. Especially as, you know, in the process you'd be causing just as much of a disruption as the person with the disability with your shouting insults and slow clapping - the only difference being you should know better and have more self control.

Thank you for your pity and support, it's been a rough time for me.

No, the point wasn't for me to say, "LOOK AT ME I'M AN ASSHOLE I MAKE FUN OF THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED LOL," it was that I can identify to the moviegoers who, while acting intolerably towards a child with disabilities, really didn't do anything that I wouldn't expect out of most adults, including myself. Maybe I just deal with a lot of childish people on a daily basis or have low standards for those around me, but the mob mentality is pretty strong no matter who you are. I'm not denying that it's rude, selfish, and immature; just that I know for a fact I would probably do it without given the proper chance to think about it, and I (personal experience) know a lot of straight minded, normal adults who would do the same on the spot.

[Ethel mermania]

what you were doing is trolling, there is quite a bit of research on how to raise a child with autism, plenty of folks do it every day, or know people who do it. greenspan, loovas, and hundreds of other have published reams of data that show how to do it.

If I were to attempt to make people react negatively to my post, that would be trolling. Trolling is a stupid word and it should die out.

no, it describes a behavour on the internet quite reasonably. how would you think anyone who has a handicapped family member react to your posts in this thread.

[Kvatchdom]

If I were to attempt to make people react negatively to my post, that would be trolling. Trolling is a stupid word and it should die out.

no, it describes a behavour on the internet quite reasonably. how would you think anyone who has a handicapped family member react to your posts in this thread.

I apologized for my dickiness. I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was ten and it wasn't easy being a Duracell Bunny.

[Verdum]

Around the time they starting babbling and yelling in the middle of movies was the time I figured it out.

I suppose autistics having difficulty with socio-commmunicative stimuli and perception troubles towards the emotional state of other human beings didn't cross your mind?

So they defy all reason and start babbling, don't they?

[Transhuman Proteus]

If you were in that situation, you could have found a staff member and complained about it.

I could've also called the police and filed a complaint for a noise disturbance, but I wouldn't do either of those things. I'm not going to go to a manager first if I can deal with it by simply speaking to the parents.

Pretty sure noise disturbances don't include this kind of thing.

And you're innitial post doesn't have you dealing with it if you can simple speaking to the parents, it has you "losing you're mind and telling the mother to shut him up" and deciding to join in the jeering as they left.

I'd suggest you actually should just go to a staff member, since you're responses seem disproportionate and ragey.

It sounds like her child was disruptive and she got indignant when it was pointed out. It doesn't matter why he was disruptive it matters that he was disruptive. Nobodie's going to say "oh I thought I was being distracted by that screaming but it turns out he's autistic."

I think the point of indignation was more over people clapping and insulting even as they were leaving, unless you'd say that was necessary (and as, has been pointed out to me, the fact the first complaint also included someone placing hands on someone else if the report is accurate). Her response to the first woman was to start leaving (it was the other woman, present, Patty, who started pointing out he was autistic).

And I think the point where people say "he's autistic" isn't like invoking a magical word where the noise suddenly becomes ok, it's more shorthand for saying "please just give us a moment to calm him, and he'll be fine" (which it usually is, and I've heard people say the whole thing - "he's autistic, please just give us a moment to calm him and he'll be fine" - maybe she would have as well).

[Geilinor]

I suppose autistics having difficulty with socio-commmunicative stimuli and perception troubles towards the emotional state of other human beings didn't cross your mind?

So they defy all reason and start babbling, don't they?

They don't "babble" to intentionally annoy, most of the time, they're reacting to something around them.

[Verdum]

So they defy all reason and start babbling, don't they?

They don't "babble" to intentionally annoy, most of the time, they're reacting to something around them.

Not only that, you can't tell when they are doing it on purpose or not.

And unless the repertoire expands and vocalizations become more speech-like, they are babbling.

[Geilinor]

What the flying fuck?

I am not well in the head right now.

Is that something you say every time you post stupid shit?

[Kvatchdom]

I am not well in the head right now.

Is that something you say every time you post stupid shit?

I am in severe pain, and I don't make sense.

[Geilinor]

They don't "babble" to intentionally annoy, most of the time, they're reacting to something around them.

Not only that, you can't tell when they are doing it on purpose or not.

And unless the repertoire expands and vocalizations become more speech-like, they are babbling.

This is irrelevant, the person we're talking about was speaking. It may have been in a disruptive manner, but it was speech, hence not babbling, therefore you're posting unrelated nonsense.

[Ningirsu]

I could've also called the police and filed a complaint for a noise disturbance, but I wouldn't do either of those things. I'm not going to go to a manager first if I can deal with it by simply speaking to the parents.

Pretty sure noise disturbances don't include this kind of thing.

And you're innitial post doesn't have you dealing with it if you can simple speaking to the parents, it has you "losing you're mind and telling the mother to shut him up" and deciding to join in the jeering as they left.

I'd suggest you actually should just go to a staff member, since you're responses seem disproportionate and ragey.

All apologize for my hyperbole. For the record I wouldn't start flipping out on the mother about her kid making a scene in the middle of Muppets v. Adam Sandler or whatever happened to be playing.

**EDIT**: Generally noise complaints are when it's a source of annoyance to the general populace. 15 people in an enclosed space would be considered the 'general populace' in this instance.

[Transhuman Proteus]

You'd have continued to heckled the guy even as he was leaving, over something he has no control over?

I'd pity you for having you're cinema going experience disrupted for the couple of minutes happened, but not if you continued to harp on it even as the people were leaving. Especially as, you know, in the process you'd be causing just as much of a disruption as the person with the disability with your shouting insults and slow clapping - the only difference being you should know better and have more self control.

Thank you for your pity and support, it's been a rough time for me.

No, the point wasn't for me to say, "LOOK AT ME I'M AN ASSHOLE I MAKE FUN OF THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED LOL," it was that I can identify to the moviegoers who, while acting intolerably towards a child with disabilities, really didn't do anything that I wouldn't expect out of most adults, including myself. Maybe I just deal with a lot of childish people on a daily basis or have low standards for those around me, but the mob mentality is pretty strong no matter who you are. I'm not denying that it's rude, selfish, and immature; just that I know for a fact I would probably do it without given the proper chance to think about it, and I (personal experience) know a lot of straight minded, normal adults who would do the same on the spot.

I guess, though I generally do expect more out of adults.

[Geilinor]

Is that something you say every time you post stupid shit?

I am in severe pain, and I don't make sense.

So you're disabled yourself and yet you say that the disabled need to be treated extra harshly in order to be taught how to behave?

[Syrmane]

Yes. It is appropriate.

[Empire of Narnia]

I don't think they should have been quite as rude, but they had the right to ask the person to leave. If a person cannot stay silent during a movie they shouldn't go to a theater.

[Verdum]

Not only that, you can't tell when they are doing it on purpose or not.

And unless the repertoire expands and vocalizations become more speech-like, they are babbling.

This is irrelevant, the person we're talking about was speaking. It may have been in a disruptive manner, but it was speech, hence not babbling, therefore you're posting unrelated nonsense.

Alrighty then.

Even if it was speech, is was constant and annoying. I can't feel bad for the little...or anyone with [], mainly because they shouldn't have brought [] in the first place.
Anyways I will continue this in an unspecified time, having some irl trouble and will get back to this argument soon.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Pretty sure noise disturbances don't include this kind of thing.

And you're innitial post doesn't have you dealing with it if you can simple speaking to the parents, it has you "losing you're mind and telling the mother to shut him up" and deciding to join in the jeering as they left.

I'd suggest you actually should just go to a staff member, since you're responses seem disproportionate and ragey.

All apologize for my hyperbole. For the record I wouldn't start flipping out on the mother about her kid making a scene in the middle of Muppets v. Adam Sandler or whatever happened to be playing.

That's ok.

And heh, I'd probably be the one needing to be asked to leave for disturbing the peace if I somehow ended up in an Adam Sandler film. He makes me want to swear at the heavens just thinking about him.

[The Kangaroo Republic]

Thank you for your pity and support, it's been a rough time for me.

No, the point wasn't for me to say, "LOOK AT ME I'M AN ASSHOLE I MAKE FUN OF THE MENTALLY CHALLENGED LOL," it was that I can identify to the moviegoers who, while acting intolerably towards a child with disabilities, really didn't do anything that I wouldn't expect out of most adults, including myself. Maybe I just deal with a lot of childish people on a daily basis or have low standards for those around me, but the mob mentality is pretty strong no matter who you are. I'm not denying that it's rude, selfish, and immature; just that I know for a fact I would probably do it without given the proper chance to think about it, and I (personal experience) know a lot of straight minded, normal adults who would do the same on the spot.

I guess, though I generally do expect more out of adults.

Well, you could just watch a whole playlist of what would you do videos to restore your faith in them. In any case, adults not being understanding is one thing, but if this was a kid's movie then these are parents who couldn't understand that this other parent needed 5 minutes to calm a kid down.

[Ethel mermania]

no, it describes a behavour on the internet quite reasonably. how would you think anyone who has a handicapped family member react to your posts in this thread.

I apologized for my dickiness. I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was ten and it wasn't easy being a Duracell Bunny.

i saw, its not an excuse. some life advice if i may, if you know you might act inapropriately dont put yourself in situations where you do something offensive to others.

[Kvatchdom]

I am in severe pain, and I don't make sense.

So you're disabled yourself and yet you say that the disabled need to be treated extra harshly in order to be taught how to behave?

Look dude, I've taken like three g of burana today and my head is basically spinning. I'm not disabled, my wrist fractured a while ago. I still do believe that if a child cannot be quiet inside a movie theater, he or she should be escorted out. Jeering sounds like bullying, and bullying is bad.

[Kvatchdom]

I apologized for my dickiness. I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was ten and it wasn't easy being a Duracell Bunny.

i saw, its not an excuse. some life advice if i may, if you know you might act inapropriately dont put yourself in situations where you do something offensive to others.

Sometimes you need to be a little offensive to keep people on their toes.

[Ethel mermania]

They don't "babble" to intentionally annoy, most of the time, they're reacting to something around them.

Not only that, you can't tell when they are doing it on purpose or not.

And unless the repertoire expands and vocalizations become more speech-like, they are babbling.

there has been a fair amount of research on stims on people with autism. you too wanna souce what your saying?

[Krasny-Volny]

I wish I had the courage to drive him out. Wouldn't resort to getting too nasty, though...though I'd be ticked with every passing moment of the film I was missing.

Assuming it was a good film, of course. If it wasn't that hot expect me to simply walk out the minute somebody starts a disturbance.