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Dalcaria
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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:15 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Estruia wrote:
A rag-tag bunch of thugs with guns, coming together to fight against Ukraine is a functioning state? I wasn't aware.


Wait, read that wrong :p Ignore me I just woke up.

:lol2: No worries! Forgiven!
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"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:16 pm

So speaking of rebels, has anything new happened in the east? Last I heard the rebels were counterattacking government forces and had retaken a fair amount of land?
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Dalcaria
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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:18 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So speaking of rebels, has anything new happened in the east? Last I heard the rebels were counterattacking government forces and had retaken a fair amount of land?

As far as I know it's back and forth. They've lost a lot of their original ground though I've heard from BBC, but it's hard to say.
"Take Fascism and remove the racism, ultra-nationalism, oppression, murder, and replace these things with proper civil rights and freedoms and what do you get? Us, a much stronger and more free nation than most."
"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
"You say manifest destiny, I say act of war. You're free to disagree with me, but I tend to make my arguments with a gun."
Since everyone does one of these: Impeach Democracy, Legalize Monarchy, Incompetent leadership is theft.

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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:20 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
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I didn't know the Islamic State had a space program, sent military aid and advisers to nations at war or was one of the most resource rich nations on the planet. Saying the DPRK doesn't function as a state just shows you don't know anything about the DPRK, it may be a belligerent state but that doesn't change anything.

:lol2: A space program that isn't going anywhere, military aid to where exactly, and resources that countries like Canada probably have a few hundred times more of. Wait.... Are you talking about the Pro-Russian states in Ukraine, or North Korea here, I'm confused?

Russia is currently the only country with a reliable ability to put humans into space. And the Chinese are the only ones who are trying besides them.
And their space program is based on modified Russian technology.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:21 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So speaking of rebels, has anything new happened in the east? Last I heard the rebels were counterattacking government forces and had retaken a fair amount of land?

As far as I know it's back and forth. They've lost a lot of their original ground though I've heard from BBC, but it's hard to say.


Sounds like a major clusterfuck still. Hopefully this'll all be over sometime soon, but that won't happen if Russia keeps aiding the rebels.
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Postby Slavialand » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:22 pm

I've heard from a secondary source (another human being) that Russian forces have attacked/raided novoazovsk, a town near the Border to Rostov-on-Don.
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Postby Aterna » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:24 pm

Allanea wrote:
Since when do paratroopers do patrol duty near a nation's border? Oh Russia, Russia, when will you realize we all see through your lies?


Often? Israel certainly uses various infantry divisions (Golani, Givati, Paratroopers) to help secure its borders.

Here are official IDF photographs of Shaked Battalion, Givati Brigade securing the border from terrorist infiltrators.

Here is a post by an IDF paratrooper detailing his border guard duty: Winding Down:

As a bit of an update on location and what we’re doing, we finally finished our 3 months of imun (training) and have moved onto guarding the northern border of Israel with Lebanon.


Here's a news article about IDF paratroopers preparing for patrol of the Northern border over here.


Well, yes, that be Israel, which needs all available manpower it can get.

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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:As far as I know it's back and forth. They've lost a lot of their original ground though I've heard from BBC, but it's hard to say.


Sounds like a major clusterfuck still. Hopefully this'll all be over sometime soon, but that won't happen if Russia keeps aiding the rebels.

Yeah, I think the best solution is for Russia to back off, Ukraine to take out the rebels, and the UN to move in and help Ukrainians and Russians in Ukraine negotiate some laws and consolidations to help make the country better for both of them. Switzerland should be involved too. :lol2:
"Take Fascism and remove the racism, ultra-nationalism, oppression, murder, and replace these things with proper civil rights and freedoms and what do you get? Us, a much stronger and more free nation than most."
"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
"You say manifest destiny, I say act of war. You're free to disagree with me, but I tend to make my arguments with a gun."
Since everyone does one of these: Impeach Democracy, Legalize Monarchy, Incompetent leadership is theft.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Thellonya wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/ukraine-men-in-green_n_5717589.html
Here we go again....


There's NATO's cue to start aiding Ukraine.
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Postby Aterna » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:25 pm

Thellonya wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/ukraine-men-in-green_n_5717589.html
Here we go again....


Yay.............. :(
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Postby Estruia » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:26 pm

Not necessarily important, but still relevant.

Apparently, a woman was captured by the Pro-Russian rebels, and they have forced her to stand in a rather busy area, and take abuse from passers-by. They accuse her of being a spy.
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:26 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sounds like a major clusterfuck still. Hopefully this'll all be over sometime soon, but that won't happen if Russia keeps aiding the rebels.

Yeah, I think the best solution is for Russia to back off, Ukraine to take out the rebels, and the UN to move in and help Ukrainians and Russians in Ukraine negotiate some laws and consolidations to help make the country better for both of them. Switzerland should be involved too. :lol2:

When pigs fly, Mental Omega 3.0 BR2 is released, and when North Korea develops anti-matter capabilities.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thellonya wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/ukraine-men-in-green_n_5717589.html
Here we go again....


There's NATO's cue to start aiding Ukraine.


Wait! I bet these are "concerned citizens who got their equipment from the general store" or whatever bullshit excuse they could come up with.

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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:30 pm

Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:Yeah, I think the best solution is for Russia to back off, Ukraine to take out the rebels, and the UN to move in and help Ukrainians and Russians in Ukraine negotiate some laws and consolidations to help make the country better for both of them. Switzerland should be involved too. :lol2:

When pigs fly, Mental Omega 3.0 BR2 is released, and when North Korea develops anti-matter capabilities.

Yeah, Putin doesn't seem the type to end a Soviet Reunion early. :rofl:
"Take Fascism and remove the racism, ultra-nationalism, oppression, murder, and replace these things with proper civil rights and freedoms and what do you get? Us, a much stronger and more free nation than most."
"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
"You say manifest destiny, I say act of war. You're free to disagree with me, but I tend to make my arguments with a gun."
Since everyone does one of these: Impeach Democracy, Legalize Monarchy, Incompetent leadership is theft.

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Postby Thellonya » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:30 pm

The balkens wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's NATO's cue to start aiding Ukraine.


Wait! I bet these are "concerned citizens who got their equipment from the general store" or whatever bullshit excuse they could come up with.

I geniunely hope Ukraine defends their territory against these fuckers this time.

Does Russia not understand the concept of borders?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:31 pm

The balkens wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's NATO's cue to start aiding Ukraine.


Wait! I bet these are "concerned citizens who got their equipment from the general store" or whatever bullshit excuse they could come up with.


You can buy anything online nowadays dontcha know? In fact, I'm saving up for an Mi-24.
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:33 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:When pigs fly, Mental Omega 3.0 BR2 is released, and when North Korea develops anti-matter capabilities.

Yeah, Putin doesn't seem the type to end a Soviet Reunion early. :rofl:

Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*
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Postby Estruia » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:35 pm

Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:Yeah, Putin doesn't seem the type to end a Soviet Reunion early. :rofl:

Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*


*Points at the Soviet history of Interventions and Invasions*

Oh look, we can do the same thing! :D
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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:36 pm

Estruia wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*


*Points at the Soviet history of Interventions and Invasions*

Oh look, we can do the same thing! :D


Oh look..

"Dissolution of the Soviet Union"

Get with the fucking times.
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Postby Thellonya » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:37 pm

Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:Yeah, Putin doesn't seem the type to end a Soviet Reunion early. :rofl:

Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*

So am i the only one who thinks that just because the us does something means russia can do the same thing is bullshit?

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Postby Dalcaria » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:37 pm

Grand Russian Federation wrote:
Dalcaria wrote:Yeah, Putin doesn't seem the type to end a Soviet Reunion early. :rofl:

Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*

I know, right?
*points to the equally massive Russian history of invasions, ethnic cleanings, and expulsions of native peoples from their own lands*

By the way, I'm not American, so pointing out American crimes doesn't affect me. XD
"Take Fascism and remove the racism, ultra-nationalism, oppression, murder, and replace these things with proper civil rights and freedoms and what do you get? Us, a much stronger and more free nation than most."
"Tell me, is it still a 'revolution' or 'liberation' when you are killing our men, women, and children in front of us for not allowing themselves to be 'saved' by you? Call Communism and Democracy whatever you want, but to our people they're both the same thing; Oppression."
"You say manifest destiny, I say act of war. You're free to disagree with me, but I tend to make my arguments with a gun."
Since everyone does one of these: Impeach Democracy, Legalize Monarchy, Incompetent leadership is theft.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:39 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*

I know, right?
*points to the equally massive Russian history of invasions, ethnic cleanings, and expulsions of native peoples from their own lands*

By the way, I'm not American, so pointing out American crimes doesn't affect me. XD


I'm an American and this shit don't affect me either. :D

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Postby Grand Russian Federation » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:39 pm

Thellonya wrote:
Grand Russian Federation wrote:Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*

So am i the only one who thinks that just because the us does something means russia can do the same thing is bullshit?


Grey and gray morality, except America is more tarnished by the grey than Russia.

Dalcaria wrote:
Grand Russian Federation";p="<a href="tel:21511024">21511024</a> wrote:Hah, that's real funny.
*points towards massive US history of interventionism and invasions*

I know, right?
*points to the equally massive Russian history of invasions, ethnic cleanings, and expulsions of native peoples from their own lands*

By the way, I'm not American, so pointing out American crimes doesn't affect me. XD


*change from Tsars, to Premiers, to Presidents*
Nice try.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Wait! I bet these are "concerned citizens who got their equipment from the general store" or whatever bullshit excuse they could come up with.


You can buy anything online nowadays dontcha know? In fact, I'm saving up for an Mi-24.


I'm saving up for a T-90.

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