NATION

PASSWORD

[ARCHIVED DEBATE] A Civilized Debate on Religion

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Does/Do God(s) Exist?

Yes
257
41%
No
207
33%
Maybe
50
8%
I Don't Know
61
10%
I Don't Care
45
7%
 
Total votes : 620

User avatar
Sun Wukong
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9798
Founded: Oct 16, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:39 pm

Baghanathria wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:Hah, there's no need for that.


Wait, who is talking to you?

That ventriloquism spell is the best investment Satan ever made.
Great Sage, Equal of Heaven.

User avatar
Sun Wukong
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9798
Founded: Oct 16, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Sun Wukong » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:41 pm

Baghanathria wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:God is the worst answer!


God is more like the question itself.

Shit. The Buddhists are here. Nobody move a muscle. They can't see you if you don't move.
Great Sage, Equal of Heaven.

User avatar
Monkeykind
Senator
 
Posts: 4837
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Monkeykind » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:51 pm

Baghanathria wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:Hah, there's no need for that.


Wait, who is talking to you?

God.

User avatar
European Socialist Republic
Senator
 
Posts: 4844
Founded: Apr 09, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby European Socialist Republic » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:52 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
Baghanathria wrote:
Wait, who is talking to you?

God.

So you can hear God talk to you?
Economic Left/Right: -7
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.9
I am a far-left moderate social libertarian.
Left: 9.13
Libertarian: 2.62
Non-interventionalist: 7.34
Cultural liberal: 9.12
I am a Trotskyist.
Cosmopolitan: 71%
Secular: 80%
Visionary: 62%
Anarchistic: 43%
Communistic: 78%
Pacifist: 40%
Anthropocentric: 50%

Legalize Tyranny, Impeach the Twenty-second Amendment, Term Limits are Theft, Barack Obama 2016!
HOI4

User avatar
Baghanathria
Envoy
 
Posts: 203
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Baghanathria » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:55 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
Baghanathria wrote:
Wait, who is talking to you?

God.


Then better build an army and drive out the english from your country, Jeanne. Viva la France!
I'm for regional autonomies, moderate nationalism and patriotism, euthanasia, legalization of psychedelic drugs, finnish school system, direct democracy, and european cultural revival.
***
Mallorea and Riva should resign

User avatar
Monkeykind
Senator
 
Posts: 4837
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Monkeykind » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:14 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:God.

So you can hear God talk to you?

Well,duh.

User avatar
Nervium
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6513
Founded: Jan 23, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Nervium » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:17 pm

I honestly could care less what people believe in, if they're not indoctrinating children, threathning people with eternal damnation or pushing their agenda on schools, they can very well believe in the Holy Sausage That Cometh for all I care.
I've retired from the forums.

User avatar
European Socialist Republic
Senator
 
Posts: 4844
Founded: Apr 09, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby European Socialist Republic » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:22 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:So you can hear God talk to you?

Well,duh.

Hearing voices, eh?
Economic Left/Right: -7
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.9
I am a far-left moderate social libertarian.
Left: 9.13
Libertarian: 2.62
Non-interventionalist: 7.34
Cultural liberal: 9.12
I am a Trotskyist.
Cosmopolitan: 71%
Secular: 80%
Visionary: 62%
Anarchistic: 43%
Communistic: 78%
Pacifist: 40%
Anthropocentric: 50%

Legalize Tyranny, Impeach the Twenty-second Amendment, Term Limits are Theft, Barack Obama 2016!
HOI4

User avatar
Monkeykind
Senator
 
Posts: 4837
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Monkeykind » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:23 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:Well,duh.

Hearing voices, eh?

EVERYONE HEARS VOICES. Unless they're deaf.

User avatar
Baghanathria
Envoy
 
Posts: 203
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Baghanathria » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:26 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Hearing voices, eh?

EVERYONE HEARS VOICES. Unless they're deaf.


Nah... that's not funny anymore. Obvious troll is obvious.
I'm for regional autonomies, moderate nationalism and patriotism, euthanasia, legalization of psychedelic drugs, finnish school system, direct democracy, and european cultural revival.
***
Mallorea and Riva should resign

User avatar
Monkeykind
Senator
 
Posts: 4837
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Monkeykind » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:27 pm

Baghanathria wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:EVERYONE HEARS VOICES. Unless they're deaf.


Nah... that's not funny anymore. Obvious troll is obvious.

A troll? Kind sir, I am not a troll.

User avatar
Mkuki
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 10584
Founded: Sep 22, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Mkuki » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:29 pm

Hakio wrote:Does God exist? Also what are your opinions on religion? I believe that all sides of this debate can respect eachothers' opinions and do this in a civilized fashion. We can also talk about logical fallacies, the problem of evil, Satan, Hell and other religious topics. I am, personally, an atheist and I believe that there is no god(s) or supernatural entities of any kind. I wish for us to engage in a respectable conversation on beliefs and tradition and what value god has in our modern society.
Don't turn this into a flame war... please.

1. I don't believe that a god or God or gods or any other type of supernatural being (spirits, ghosts, angels, demons, etc.) exist or have existed in any physical manifestation.

2. I like darkmatter2525's explanation of God.
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Political Test (Results)
Who Do I Side With?
Vision of the Justice Party - Justice Party Platform
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.
HAVE FUN BURNING IN HELL!

User avatar
Baghanathria
Envoy
 
Posts: 203
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Baghanathria » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:29 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
Baghanathria wrote:
Nah... that's not funny anymore. Obvious troll is obvious.

A troll? Kind sir, I am not a troll.


If you are being serious, and not trolling... well, that's the worse scenario, kind sir.
I'm for regional autonomies, moderate nationalism and patriotism, euthanasia, legalization of psychedelic drugs, finnish school system, direct democracy, and european cultural revival.
***
Mallorea and Riva should resign

User avatar
Monkeykind
Senator
 
Posts: 4837
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Monkeykind » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:31 pm

Baghanathria wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:A troll? Kind sir, I am not a troll.


If you are being serious, and not trolling... well, that's the worse scenario, kind sir.

Why?

User avatar
European Socialist Republic
Senator
 
Posts: 4844
Founded: Apr 09, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby European Socialist Republic » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:31 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Hearing voices, eh?

EVERYONE HEARS VOICES. Unless they're deaf.

Not voices in your head that come from nowhere.
Economic Left/Right: -7
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.9
I am a far-left moderate social libertarian.
Left: 9.13
Libertarian: 2.62
Non-interventionalist: 7.34
Cultural liberal: 9.12
I am a Trotskyist.
Cosmopolitan: 71%
Secular: 80%
Visionary: 62%
Anarchistic: 43%
Communistic: 78%
Pacifist: 40%
Anthropocentric: 50%

Legalize Tyranny, Impeach the Twenty-second Amendment, Term Limits are Theft, Barack Obama 2016!
HOI4

User avatar
Nervium
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6513
Founded: Jan 23, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Nervium » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:32 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:EVERYONE HEARS VOICES. Unless they're deaf.

Not voices in your head that come from nowhere.


I'm quite positive some people have an echo in their head.
I've retired from the forums.

User avatar
European Socialist Republic
Senator
 
Posts: 4844
Founded: Apr 09, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby European Socialist Republic » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:33 pm

Nervium wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Not voices in your head that come from nowhere.


I'm quite positive some people have an echo in their head.

Only people with no brains. Those delicious brains...
Economic Left/Right: -7
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.9
I am a far-left moderate social libertarian.
Left: 9.13
Libertarian: 2.62
Non-interventionalist: 7.34
Cultural liberal: 9.12
I am a Trotskyist.
Cosmopolitan: 71%
Secular: 80%
Visionary: 62%
Anarchistic: 43%
Communistic: 78%
Pacifist: 40%
Anthropocentric: 50%

Legalize Tyranny, Impeach the Twenty-second Amendment, Term Limits are Theft, Barack Obama 2016!
HOI4

User avatar
Seriong
Minister
 
Posts: 2158
Founded: Aug 12, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Seriong » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:33 pm

Allentyr wrote:
Seriong wrote:A perfect world, such that we can currently comprehend would be one where all needs are taken care of. Satan convinced Eve to partake of something she should not have, they had a lack of knowledge of good an evil. In the same way, convincing a mentally handicapped person to stick a fork in a light socket would be the fault of the person that convinced them, as the handicapped person cannot comprehend the issue.


So god created em without giving them knowledge of good and evil. Douche.
There's also the problem of incest. If they were the only two humans... And their sons married their daughters and so on... How does that work, they would've developed severe retardation by the sixth or seventh generation..

Well, in a world such as the one first alluded to, there wasn't really good and evil, only good.

Also, I think if God can make a person out of dust, clay, or a rib, he can probably prevent incest.
Vissegaard wrote:
Seriong wrote:God's our first attempt at an answer, it being wrong doesn't make it a lie necessarily.

God is our last answer.

He was the first attempt we made to answer the question of where we came from. There have been other attempts made since then. Other than either a philosophical sounding, or snarky sound byte, was there any point to that?
Lunalia wrote:
The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

Murkwood wrote:As a trans MtF Bi Pansexual Transautistic CAMAB Demiplatonic Asensual Better-Abled Planetkin Singlet Afro-Centric Vegan Socialist Therian, I'm immune from criticism.

User avatar
Monkeykind
Senator
 
Posts: 4837
Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Monkeykind » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:39 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Monkeykind wrote:EVERYONE HEARS VOICES. Unless they're deaf.

Not voices in your head that come from nowhere.

Well thats true I guess.

User avatar
Jetan
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13214
Founded: Mar 07, 2011
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Jetan » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:47 pm

Monkeykind wrote:
Baghanathria wrote:
If you are being serious, and not trolling... well, that's the worse scenario, kind sir.

Why?

Because it implies you are hearing things, which is not exactly good for you.
Second Finn, after Imm
........Геть Росію.........
Україна вільна і єдина
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
Beholder's Lair - a hobby blog
31 years old, patriotic Finnish guy interested in history. Hobbies include miniatures, all kinds of games, books, anime and manga.
Always open to TGs. Pro/Against

Ceterum autem censeo Putinem esse delendum

User avatar
Allentyr
Minister
 
Posts: 2175
Founded: Jun 26, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Allentyr » Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:56 pm

Derailment here... :P
Steam
Blazedtown wrote:I'll spell reaganomincs in your bathroom mirror in blood, and remove minorities from from your family photo albums

Sediczja wrote:
Basseemia wrote:You sound gross. Learn some hygiene.

Hey, showering is for little girls. You're not a real man until the rot on your crotch is an inch thick.

Mefpan wrote:I don't think we need a source to prove that the economy is interconnected and doesn't run on muahahahaium, the secret element that comes into existence whenever someone hatches a nefarious plan.

Emperial Germany wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:Would you like her to show up in your bedroom at 3:00 A.M. in full witch attire?

Would you like me to show up in your bedroom at 3:00 A.M in full Joker attire?

User avatar
Pensalum
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1331
Founded: Jul 21, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Pensalum » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:05 pm

Soooo

For anyone who does believe in, or hopes for the existence of God, how do you think the afterlife would work? Is it only for people who believe in God, is it for everyone? Is it for people who live justly?

I hope that if there is an afterlife, anyone can go there. If there is a God, it must know that the choosing of religion is very arbitrary, and therefore should not judge based on that choice. I hope there is some sort of reward or incentive for living decently, but I have know idea on what basis that would be judged. I do not hope for the existence of eternal damnation.
I read the worst thing ever in a bathrobe of off-white terrycloth

User avatar
Conscentia
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26681
Founded: Feb 04, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Conscentia » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:08 pm

Pensalum wrote:Soooo

For anyone who does believe in, or hopes for the existence of God, how do you think the afterlife would work? Is it only for people who believe in God, is it for everyone? Is it for people who live justly?

I hope that if there is an afterlife, anyone can go there. If there is a God, it must know that the choosing of religion is very arbitrary, and therefore should not judge based on that choice. I hope there is some sort of reward or incentive for living decently, but I have know idea on what basis that would be judged. I do not hope for the existence of eternal damnation.

There is no afterlife. This is a fact. The very concept is absurd. The mind is what the brain does. If the brain is dead, there is no mind.

Also, the views you've expressed here are incompatible with Catholic doctrine, just saying.
Last edited by Conscentia on Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:09 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Shaggai
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9342
Founded: Mar 27, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Shaggai » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:16 pm

Sun Wukong wrote:
Baghanathria wrote:
God is more like the question itself.

Shit. The Buddhists are here. Nobody move a muscle. They can't see you if you don't move.

HEY! HEY EVERYBODY! HE'S OVER HERE! LOOK, HE'S RIGHT HERE!
piss

User avatar
Pensalum
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1331
Founded: Jul 21, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Pensalum » Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:20 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Pensalum wrote:Soooo

For anyone who does believe in, or hopes for the existence of God, how do you think the afterlife would work? Is it only for people who believe in God, is it for everyone? Is it for people who live justly?

I hope that if there is an afterlife, anyone can go there. If there is a God, it must know that the choosing of religion is very arbitrary, and therefore should not judge based on that choice. I hope there is some sort of reward or incentive for living decently, but I have know idea on what basis that would be judged. I do not hope for the existence of eternal damnation.

There is no afterlife. This is a fact. The very concept is absurd. The mind is what the brain does. If the brain is dead, there is no mind.

Also, the views you've expressed here are incompatible with Catholic doctrine, just saying.

Yes, notice I said I hope, never once did I say I believe. Afterlife is implausible, illogical and unreasonable, but a boy can dream can he not?

I'm aware, I do not agree with many points of the Catholic doctrine, and am probably not considered Catholic by other people. The signature is old, and I actually forgot what it said.
I read the worst thing ever in a bathrobe of off-white terrycloth

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Picairn, Settentrionalia

Advertisement

Remove ads