[ARCHIVED DEBATE] A Civilized Debate on Religion

[God Kefka]

Does God exist? Also what are your opinions on religion? I believe that all sides of this debate can respect eachothers' opinions and do this in a civilized fashion. We can also talk about logical fallacies, the problem of evil, Satan, Hell and other religious topics. I am, personally, an atheist and I believe that there is no god(s) or supernatural entities of any kind. I wish for us to engage in a respectable conversation on beliefs and tradition and what value god has in our modern society.
Don't turn this into a flame war... please.

Religion already gets more respect than it deserves. No one has a problem talking trash about Nazism or Communism when they disagree with those ideologies, so why should we not talk trash about religions? Religions can be just as dangerous as political ideologies, and they should be subject to the same kind of criticism.

that's exactly right... that's exactly right...

[Libertarian California]

Religion already gets more respect than it deserves. No one has a problem talking trash about Nazism or Communism when they disagree with those ideologies, so why should we not talk trash about religions? Religions can be just as dangerous as political ideologies, and they should be subject to the same kind of criticism.

Well said.

Make fun of someone for their political views all you want. Hell, make fun of someone's philosphical views. But say something about their religious views (and I fail to see how they are that different), you're instantly an Islamophobe/Anti-semite/whatever other bullshit name these people come up with.

[God Kefka]

Well said.

Make fun of someone for their political views all you want. Hell, make fun of someone's philosphical views. But say something about their religious views (and I fail to see how they are that different), you're instantly an Islamophobe/Anti-semite/whatever other bullshit name these people come up with.

seriously...

Why should religions be more sacred than political ideologies or political positions? Most of them are obviously superstitions at any rate...

[Libertarian California]

Make fun of someone for their political views all you want. Hell, make fun of someone's philosphical views. But say something about their religious views (and I fail to see how they are that different), you're instantly an Islamophobe/Anti-semite/whatever other bullshit name these people come up with.

seriously...

Why should religions be more sacred than political ideologies or political positions? Most of them are obviously superstitions at any rate...

Especially in cases when religion is the basis for a political position.

[Kolechistan]

I believe in God purely out of faith.

To this moment though I have yet to find any proof to the contrary.

[Olthar]

No.

[Tyriece]

To me, only the last 3 poll options seem reasonable. With everything considered (and I mean EVERYTHING) I have no idea of there is any such thing as gods, maybe there is maybe there is not, how ever in this moment right now that we all live in, it really does not matter. Think about it, what would change? You sure would look at life different if we had an answer we all agreed on, but that's about it.

[Bezombia]

To me, only the last 3 poll options seem reasonable. With everything considered (and I mean EVERYTHING) I have no idea of there is any such thing as gods, maybe there is maybe there is not, how ever in this moment right now that we all live in, it really does not matter. Think about it, what would change? You sure would look at life different if we had an answer we all agreed on, but that's about it.

Facts, my dear friend Tyriece. There is only one correct answer.

[Socialist Tera]

Religion has no place in politics and I believe no one should force their beliefs or lack of belief on others.

[Mike the Progressive]

Don't turn this into a flame war... please.

"We didn't start the flame war."

[Dunroaming]

A/the God must, surely, by definition, be all powerful.
Who is writing this?
Am I only an agent for God?

[Estormo]

All gods can be rendered mundane, tautologous, or impossible.
So either your god doesn't exist, or it isn't a god.

2edgy4me

[Hindenburgia]

To me, only the last 3 poll options seem reasonable. With everything considered (and I mean EVERYTHING) I have no idea of there is any such thing as gods, maybe there is maybe there is not, how ever in this moment right now that we all live in, it really does not matter. Think about it, what would change? You sure would look at life different if we had an answer we all agreed on, but that's about it.

In the absence of evidence to support a positive claim, one assumes the null hypothesis that the positive claim is untrue.

[Estormo]

Does God exist? Also what are your opinions on religion? I believe that all sides of this debate can respect eachothers' opinions and do this in a civilized fashion. We can also talk about logical fallacies, the problem of evil, Satan, Hell and other religious topics. I am, personally, an atheist and I believe that there is no god(s) or supernatural entities of any kind. I wish for us to engage in a respectable conversation on beliefs and tradition and what value god has in our modern society.
Don't turn this into a flame war... please.

Religion already gets more respect than it deserves. No one has a problem talking trash about Nazism or Communism when they disagree with those ideologies, so why should we not talk trash about religions? Religions can be just as dangerous as political ideologies, and they should be subject to the same kind of criticism.

You're right, the Christian 32% want genocide and are all wicked and evil.

[Draica]

Does God exist? Also what are your opinions on religion? I believe that all sides of this debate can respect eachothers' opinions and do this in a civilized fashion. We can also talk about logical fallacies, the problem of evil, Satan, Hell and other religious topics. I am, personally, an atheist and I believe that there is no god(s) or supernatural entities of any kind. I wish for us to engage in a respectable conversation on beliefs and tradition and what value god has in our modern society.
Don't turn this into a flame war... please.

Religion already gets more respect than it deserves. No one has a problem talking trash about Nazism or Communism when they disagree with those ideologies, so why should we not talk trash about religions? Religions can be just as dangerous as political ideologies, and they should be subject to the same kind of criticism.

You're seriously comparing all Religion to Nazism or Communism?

On what intellectual grounds do you do that?

[Estormo]

Religion already gets more respect than it deserves. No one has a problem talking trash about Nazism or Communism when they disagree with those ideologies, so why should we not talk trash about religions? Religions can be just as dangerous as political ideologies, and they should be subject to the same kind of criticism.

You're seriously comparing all Religion to Nazism or Communism?

On what intellectual grounds do you do that?

On the intellectual ground of the Holy Fedora, I assume.

[The Silence of Night]

Well said.

Make fun of someone for their political views all you want. Hell, make fun of someone's philosphical views. But say something about their religious views (and I fail to see how they are that different), you're instantly an Islamophobe/Anti-semite/whatever other bullshit name these people come up with.

Making fun is one thing. Generally speaking, people only get called Islamophobe if they hate Islam or try to blame it for all the problems in the world. Anti-Semite is more aboute race.

[Mavorpen]

Religion already gets more respect than it deserves. No one has a problem talking trash about Nazism or Communism when they disagree with those ideologies, so why should we not talk trash about religions? Religions can be just as dangerous as political ideologies, and they should be subject to the same kind of criticism.

You're seriously comparing all Religion to Nazism or Communism?

On what intellectual grounds do you do that?

Both are potentially dangerous ideologies that require faith to some degree and often require you to suspend reason and logic.

[CTALNH]

Does God exist?

What is God?

CTALNH is god.

[Mavorpen]

To me, only the last 3 poll options seem reasonable. With everything considered (and I mean EVERYTHING) I have no idea of there is any such thing as gods, maybe there is maybe there is not, how ever in this moment right now that we all live in, it really does not matter. Think about it, what would change? You sure would look at life different if we had an answer we all agreed on, but that's about it.

We would be vastly less likely to believe pseudoscience and superstition. That's an immediate and major benefit.

[CTALNH]

To me, only the last 3 poll options seem reasonable. With everything considered (and I mean EVERYTHING) I have no idea of there is any such thing as gods, maybe there is maybe there is not, how ever in this moment right now that we all live in, it really does not matter. Think about it, what would change? You sure would look at life different if we had an answer we all agreed on, but that's about it.

We would be vastly less likely to believe pseudoscience and superstition. That's an immediate and major benefit.

Stop calling it pseudoscience your giving them far too much gredit.

Braniac and Mythbusters is pseudoscience not theological research.

[Kelinfort]

Make fun of someone for their political views all you want. Hell, make fun of someone's philosphical views. But say something about their religious views (and I fail to see how they are that different), you're instantly an Islamophobe/Anti-semite/whatever other bullshit name these people come up with.

seriously...

Why should religions be more sacred than political ideologies or political positions? Most of them are obviously superstitions at any rate...

Because god is jealous and has this urge to just smite everyone right now, unless people worship him, casting aside doubt and reason.

[Mavorpen]

We would be vastly less likely to believe pseudoscience and superstition. That's an immediate and major benefit.

Stop calling it pseudoscience your giving them far too much gredit.

Braniac and Mythbusters is pseudoscience not theological research.

I'm not calling the religion itself pseudoscience.

[CTALNH]

Stop calling it pseudoscience your giving them far too much gredit.

Braniac and Mythbusters is pseudoscience not theological research.

I'm not calling the religion itself pseudoscience.

I said you called theological research pseudoscience.

I didn't say nothing about religion.

[Vissegaard]

Why should religions be more sacred than political ideologies or political positions? Most of them are obviously superstitions at any rate...

I think neither political ideologies nor religions should be scorned or insulted. Why should anybody civilized talk trash about anybody or anything?
If you don´t agree, don´t care. I respect every opinion, even the one I oppose right now (that is, yours).