The Republican Path To Victory II

[Pilotto]

I am unaware of the details of the particular examples you gave of misinformation on the part of Fox News, so I cannot offer any response as to what happened or what should be done.

Then, excuse my French, exactly why the fuck am I bothering to link anything?

However, I think it would be very naive to say that MSNBC does not have similar factual errors in their daily reporting.

Fine. Provide examples. Link to them, as I've done.

I'll fire up Google.

Coupled with their persistent and near blinding bias and their unwillingness to cover stories that make Obama and other Democrats look bad,

Source?

Do I really need a source to show that MSNBC is biased and does not provide equal coverage?
Okay, fine then.

and you have a potent concoction of bullshit that is nearly unwatchable. At least you can get some good political analysis out of Fox News (Special Report at the 6 o'clock hour) rather that the non-stop propaganda that comes from MSNBC.

Such as?

Here and here.

And you say that people always get fired at MSNBC for the examples of misinformation that I have given, but those examples were so extreme that there is no way that MSNBC could have not fired someone. The examples you gave were generally obscure and bizarre.

Whereas you have given no examples of anyone ever being fired from Fox News for similar issues. Which is my entire point.

Provide me with an example of misinformation on par with what I gave you.

[The Black Forrest]

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Do I really need a source to show that MSNBC is biased and does not provide equal coverage?

And yet again. what does that have to do with the question of the integrity of fox news?

Justification for their actions?

[Gauthier]

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Do I really need a source to show that MSNBC is biased and does not provide equal coverage?

And yet again. what does that have to do with the question of the integrity of fox news?

Justification for their actions?

A tu quoque false equivalency apologism.

[Pilotto]

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Do I really need a source to show that MSNBC is biased and does not provide equal coverage?

And yet again. what does that have to do with the question of the integrity of fox news?

Justification for their actions?

If you read a bit of the thread, you would see that I am not trying to defend the integrity of Fox News, I am meerly trying to show that MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

[Gauthier]

And yet again. what does that have to do with the question of the integrity of fox news?

Justification for their actions?

If you read a bit of the thread, you would see that I am not trying to defend the integrity of Fox News, I am meerly trying to show that MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

False Equivalency. Yep.

[Pilotto]

If you read a bit of the thread, you would see that I am not trying to defend the integrity of Fox News, I am meerly trying to show that MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

False Equivalency. Yep.

I don't see how it is a false equivalency when the equivalency is very, very real. Maybe you should venture outside of your far-left bubble some time, have your political views challenged once in a while. It would do you some good.

[Cannot think of a name]

So, and I'm just going on the last few pages here...the Republican path to victory is to convince people that Fox is okay because MSNBC?

[Pilotto]

So, and I'm just going on the last few pages here...the Republican path to victory is to convince people that Fox is okay because MSNBC?

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan. Maybe through cloning?

[Keyboard Warriors]

So, and I'm just going on the last few pages here...the Republican path to victory is to convince people that Fox is okay because MSNBC?

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan.

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

[Cannot think of a name]

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan.

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

They tried that but were not able to duplicate his public speaking ability and he got beat in 2012.

[The Black Forrest]

And yet again. what does that have to do with the question of the integrity of fox news?

Justification for their actions?

If you read a bit of the thread, you would see that I am not trying to defend the integrity of Fox News, I am meerly trying to show that MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

Oh I read it.

You see I have seen this argument ad nauseam when ever the credibility of Fox is questioned.

Conservatives LOVE to raise it.

"Fox news is bullshit!"
"OH YEA LOOK AT MSNBC!"

It is nothing more then a distraction and it hardly props up Fox as better.

In fact, I think there was a link posted to a study which showed Fox viewers less informed in general. Msnbc did a little better but it was still pretty low.

Defend Fox on the claims made against them. Writing "BUT MSNBC!" is not a defense.

[Edlichbury]

Republicans, camera three.

See what Pilotto is doing? See the bullshit wavering, goalpost moving, false equivalencies, and other logical flaws? See the obvious intellectual dishonesty, coupled with smug self-righteousness? Grating, isn't it?

That's what you've become. And unless you dig down and purge them from the intellectual realm, or even from what passes for the "intellectual" like CPAC and FOX News, you'll turn people away. You don't gain votes by repeating scandals ad naseum. You just come off as petty, grating asses. Which is never good.

So you better find a way to run from the Tea Party or prepare for shit to keep going downhill for you.

[The Black Forrest]

So, and I'm just going on the last few pages here...the Republican path to victory is to convince people that Fox is okay because MSNBC?

Well? Are they not the mouth piece of the Republicans?

[Gauthier]

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan.

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

Even then the Tea Party would purge Reagan as being too much of a hippy liberal.

[Pilotto]

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan.

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

I see... maybe we could implant his memories into someone else's mind, Total Recall style?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Then, excuse my French, exactly why the fuck am I bothering to link anything?



Fine. Provide examples. Link to them, as I've done.

I'll fire up Google.

Source?

Do I really need a source to show that MSNBC is biased and does not provide equal coverage?
Okay, fine then.

First link shows that MSNBC has more opinion shows than news shows. Okay. That doesn't make their news department biased.

Second link is a list of opinions stated on opinion shows, which once again doesn't address the issue of news bias or error.

The third is a forum post that links to a number of YouTube clips without context, so I'll hold off on judging that until you provide some.

Such as?

Here and here.

An editorial stating that MSNBC is giving too much time to the bridge scandal. I agree. That's not an example of refusal to cover stories that make Democrats look bad.

A reporter complaining about the network after getting criticized by his bosses--but not otherwise punished or otherwise acted against--for defending a controversial figure who broke the law.

Neither of these address the major point.

Whereas you have given no examples of anyone ever being fired from Fox News for similar issues. Which is my entire point.

Provide me with an example of misinformation on par with what I gave you.

Please scroll back a bit in the conversation. I've already linked them.

[Keyboard Warriors]

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

Even then the Tea Party would purge Reagan as being too much of a hippy liberal.

They'll be RINO hunting again.

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

I see... maybe we could implant his memories into someone else's mind, Total Recall style?

Well keep in mind the only reason people would vote for Reagan is because he's Ronald Reagan. The guy wasn't a policy genius or anything of the sort.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

And yet again. what does that have to do with the question of the integrity of fox news?

Justification for their actions?

If you read a bit of the thread, you would see that I am not trying to defend the integrity of Fox News, I am meerly trying to show that MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

Why are you bringing up MSNBC at all, then, if the subject is Fox News, if not to defend them?

[Mkuki]

Wouldn't work because of the 22nd amendment. They'd need to clone him, change his name and somehow keep his identity intact.

Even then the Tea Party would purge Reagan as being too much of a hippy liberal.

Even? As if they come close to Reagan. LBJ is closer to Reagan than any Tea Partiers. Let alone those in Congress.

[The Black Forrest]

So, and I'm just going on the last few pages here...the Republican path to victory is to convince people that Fox is okay because MSNBC?

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan. Maybe through cloning?

I don't know if Ronnie could do well with the Tea party.

People also forget that much of his "attraction" was due to President Carter and the embargo.

[Mkuki]

Even then the Tea Party would purge Reagan as being too much of a hippy liberal.

They'll be RINO hunting again.

Should RINOs be included under the Endangered Species Act?

[Mkuki]

We got a little off topic... I'd say that the Republican path to victory would be to bring back Ronald Reagan. Maybe through cloning?

I don't know if Ronnie could do well with the Tea party.

People also forget that much of his "attraction" was due to President Carter and the embargo.

Kinda like Obama. Wonder if we'll be seeing a Granada, anytime soon.

[Pilotto]

If you read a bit of the thread, you would see that I am not trying to defend the integrity of Fox News, I am meerly trying to show that MSNBC is just as bad, if not worse.

Oh I read it.

You see I have seen this argument ad nauseam when ever the credibility of Fox is questioned.

Conservatives LOVE to raise it.

"Fox news is bullshit!"
"OH YEA LOOK AT MSNBC!"

It is nothing more then a distraction and it hardly props up Fox as better.

In fact, I think there was a link posted to a study which showed Fox viewers less informed in general. Msnbc did a little better but it was still pretty low.

Defend Fox on the claims made against them. Writing "BUT MSNBC!" is not a defense.

I do not intend to defend the credibility of Fox News, just to knock MSNBC watchers off of their sanctimonious perch.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

The Republican Party is still a viable and living party, with a firm base in the more conservative areas of America. They represent their constituents, and when their constituents change, they will change with them.

[Cannot think of a name]

So, and I'm just going on the last few pages here...the Republican path to victory is to convince people that Fox is okay because MSNBC?

Well? Are they not the mouth piece of the Republicans?

Relevant, conservative pleading to conservatives.