The Republican Path To Victory II

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:22 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:They also follow whoever makes it easiest for them to become citizens (including making it easier to become a citizen when you're an illegal immigrant rather than a legal one) and whoever wants to put them on welfare for the rest of their lives.

yeah why would ANYONE vote for candidates who would help their lives?

and there is no more life long welfare.

There's a fine line between improving their lives and just plan spoonfeeding them everything they want.

by **Divair** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:22 am

Viritica wrote:
Divair wrote:I find this hilarious.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/2 ... 38914.html

The HuffPo. Such a reliable source.

Yes, actually, they are. Though that's not who conducted the study. Which you'd know if you actually bothered to check the article.

by **Ashmoria** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:23 am

Pilotto wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
oh I don't know, its not exactly insane to be against a party that hates you or to be afraid of a candidate who has vowed to make life so miserable for Hispanic undocumented residents that they are forced to leave the country on their own.

I think a rational approach to immigration reform would go a long way to repairing the image of the party with Hispanic voters.

How do Republicans discriminate against Latinos? If they took the time to come here legally then more power to them. Now, illegal immigrants should be deported, Latino or otherwise.

they pass laws like that one in Arizona where if you look illegal you can be forced to produce papers to prove you are a legal resident.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:24 am

Divair wrote:
Viritica wrote:The HuffPo. Such a reliable source.

Yes, actually, they are. Though that's not who conducted the study. Which you'd know if you actually bothered to check the article.

I did. I'm just calling the HuffPo out on being the liberal asswipes that they are.

by **Ashmoria** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:24 am

Viritica wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
yeah why would ANYONE vote for candidates who would help their lives?

and there is no more life long welfare.

There's a fine line between improving their lives and just plan spoonfeeding them everything they want.

why would there be?

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:24 am

Hakio wrote:
Viritica wrote:The HuffPo. Such a reliable source.

And I'm guessing this study was compared to ones involving other news sources? CNN, MSNBC, things of the like.

If you want to look at biased reporting look no further than FOX News.

Actually I'd just look at MSNBC.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:25 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:There's a fine line between improving their lives and just plan spoonfeeding them everything they want.

why would there be?

Because there is? You're not exactly being clear here.

by **Pilotto** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:26 am

Hakio wrote:
Viritica wrote:The HuffPo. Such a reliable source.

And I'm guessing this study was compared to ones involving other news sources? CNN, MSNBC, things of the like.

If you want to look at biased reporting look no further than FOX News.

Fox News is incredibly biased. But at least they have some liberals on their channel. MSNBC, on the other hand, is nothing but a perpetual liberal circle-jerk.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:27 am

Pilotto wrote:
Hakio wrote:If you want to look at biased reporting look no further than FOX News.

Fox News is incredibly biased. But at least they have some liberals on their channel. MSNBC, on the other hand, is nothing but a perpetual liberal circle-jerk.

Fox News is literally the only conservative news source on television and that somehow makes libs have nervous breakdowns.

by **Divair** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:27 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Pilotto wrote:How do Republicans discriminate against Latinos? If they took the time to come here legally then more power to them. Now, illegal immigrants should be deported, Latino or otherwise.

they pass laws like that one in Arizona where if you look illegal you can be forced to produce papers to prove you are a legal resident.

Pft, there's no hatred towards Latinos.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/ ... -hispanics
At all.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/2 ... s-Election
Whatsoever.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e-gop.html

by **Hakio** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:27 am

Tell me again, GOP, why should we ever side with conservatives on anything? Conservatism has always been wrong. Conservatism is the idea that we should go back to how things used to be and curtail the social progress for equality that has been made. When blacks got the right to vote conservatives and the right wing opposed complete integration. They have always opposed social progress even though looking back we wouldn't be where we are in our civil rights and freedoms without SOCIAL PROGRESS.

by **Ashmoria** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:28 am

Viritica wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
why would there be?

Because there is? You're not exactly being clear here.

your point makes no sense as a response to mine.

you think its wrong to "give them everything they want", fine. my point was that it is not irrational to vote for candidates who would do that for me. is there a point where a voter is supposed to say "no no, that's just too much, I don't want to have too good a life"?

by **Myrensis** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:29 am

Viritica wrote:Was that supposed to be a response?

What sort of response were you expecting to 'Minorities only vote Democrat because they help them be lazy criminal moochers'? Especially from someone complaining about the GOP being characterized as the party of old white men?

by **Estormo** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:29 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Estormo wrote:Just about...everything.

Like....?

Her policies.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:30 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:Because there is? You're not exactly being clear here.

your point makes no sense as a response to mine.

you think its wrong to "give them everything they want", fine. my point was that it is not irrational to vote for candidates who would do that for me. is there a point where a voter is supposed to say "no no, that's just too much, I don't want to have too good a life"?

I can see why they'd wanna vote for someone who wants to give them everything they want. That doesn't mean that Republicans should bend over backwards and give in to their wants.

by **Ashmoria** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:30 am

Viritica wrote:
Pilotto wrote:Fox News is incredibly biased. But at least they have some liberals on their channel. MSNBC, on the other hand, is nothing but a perpetual liberal circle-jerk.

Fox News is literally the only conservative news source on television and that somehow makes libs have nervous breakdowns.

its the lies.

foxnews is the only channel that I have seen cause people to break into spontaneous rants in public.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:31 am

Myrensis wrote:
Viritica wrote:Was that supposed to be a response?

What sort of response were you expecting to 'Minorities only vote Democrat because they help them be lazy criminal moochers'? Especially from someone complaining about the GOP being characterized as the party of old white men?

That wasn't my response at all. Not even close. I was saying that the Dems want to make it easier for illegals to become citizens then if they were actually legal. They also want to put them on welfare for the rest of their lives.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:32 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:Fox News is literally the only conservative news source on television and that somehow makes libs have nervous breakdowns.

its the lies.

foxnews is the only channel that I have seen cause people to break into spontaneous rants in public.

They don't actually lie, contrary to popular belief.

by **Ashmoria** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:32 am

Viritica wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:your point makes no sense as a response to mine.

you think its wrong to "give them everything they want", fine. my point was that it is not irrational to vote for candidates who would do that for me. is there a point where a voter is supposed to say "no no, that's just too much, I don't want to have too good a life"?

I can see why they'd wanna vote for someone who wants to give them everything they want. That doesn't mean that Republicans should bend over backwards and give in to their wants.

that wouldn't be very republican.

that's why it would be better to stop advocating those things that drive Hispanics away, like demonizing immigration reform.

by **Estormo** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:32 am

Pilotto wrote:
Hakio wrote:If you want to look at biased reporting look no further than FOX News.

Fox News is incredibly biased. But at least they have some liberals on their channel. MSNBC, on the other hand, is nothing but a perpetual liberal circle-jerk.

I do not see why the Leftists in the United States cry of bias when every other news channel has a liberal bias. It's intriguing, but kind've pathetic actually.

by **Ashmoria** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:32 am

Viritica wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:its the lies.

foxnews is the only channel that I have seen cause people to break into spontaneous rants in public.

They don't actually lie, contrary to popular belief.

uhhuh

by **Divair** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:32 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:They don't actually lie, contrary to popular belief.

uhhuh

Abandon ship yet?

by **Estormo** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:33 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:They also follow whoever makes it easiest for them to become citizens (including making it easier to become a citizen when you're an illegal immigrant rather than a legal one) and whoever wants to put them on welfare for the rest of their lives.

yeah why would ANYONE vote for candidates who would help their lives?

and there is no more life long welfare.

Stealing my money does not exactly help my life there, mate.

by **Pilotto** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:33 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:Fox News is literally the only conservative news source on television and that somehow makes libs have nervous breakdowns.

its the lies.

foxnews is the only channel that I have seen cause people to break into spontaneous rants in public.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. All news is biased to a certain degree, and Fox News just happens to be the only cable news channel with a conservative slant. So I find it amusing when die-hard MSNBC fans attack Fox News, and blind themselves to their own hypocrisy.

by **Viritica** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:34 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Viritica wrote:I can see why they'd wanna vote for someone who wants to give them everything they want. That doesn't mean that Republicans should bend over backwards and give in to their wants.

that wouldn't be very republican.

that's why it would be better to stop advocating those things that drive Hispanics away, like demonizing immigration reform.

Immigration reform is fine. But we should also secure the border which is something Dems haven't even considered.

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