Future Map of Europe

by **Greater Sveriege** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:32 pm

NORWAY OWNING SWEDEN?!?!?!?
NOT ON MY F*CKING WATCH
-Mattias not Kirill

by **Arumdaum** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:49 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:Something like this.
(Image)

why are arizona, arkansas, california, and orange county part of europe

also why is uk in eastern europe

by **The Archregimancy** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:06 am

Indian Empire wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Fan of republics, eh?

Yes. We don't want dictatorships and Empires in Europe, since the EU would collapse with the snap of a finger if there were.

A small and intentionally selective list of recent republics:

Syria
North Korea
The Democratic Republic of Kampuchea
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Iraq under Saddam Hussein
Iran
Belarus

From which I reach the conclusion that a republic is no automatic bar to either dictatorship or empire.

A small and intentionally selective list of recent monarchies:

Denmark
Sweden
Norway
The Netherlands
Belgium

From which I reach the conclusion that a monarchy is no automatic bar to democracy, or even social democracy.

From which I reach the overall conclusion that if you want dictatorships or empires, then - in a modern European context - you should be arguing in favour of democracy first, and leaving the decision over whether a country is a monarchy or a republic to the will of the people of that country.

But then, your entire map shows a total disregard for what most Europeans actually want.

by **Nua Corda** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:10 am

Greater Sveriege wrote:NORWAY OWNING SWEDEN?!?!?!?
NOT ON MY F*CKING WATCH
-Mattias not Kirill

Break out the Ljungmans and show those Norwegian trash what for.

by **Marcurix** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:06 am

So the big question here for all of when would be how?

Seriously, pretty much none of them make sense.

by **Old Tyrannia** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:07 am

I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this batshit crazy thread for giving me a good laugh first thing on a Monday morning. Anyway, the true fate of Europe.

by **Ermarian** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:17 am

Ermarian wrote:
Indian Empire wrote:Eastern Switzerland to Germany

Germany annexing Switzerland? That'll be the day.

(The rest is ridiculous too, but one thing at a time.)

To expand on this: Switzerland has been united and independent since practically forever. Their confederacy dates back 700 years, they pretty much skipped the Thirty Years' War, they gained independence from the Holy Roman Empire nearly 400 years ago and became a federal state about 150 years ago. They're fiercely protective of their status, on cordial but aloof terms with their neighbours, and they're less likely to split into France and Germany than the US are to split into Mexico and Canada.

by **Arglorand** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:25 am

Arumdaum wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Something like this.
(Image)

why are arizona, arkansas, california, and orange county park of europe

also why is uk in eastern europe

Uhhhh, that's Ukraine?

by **Arumdaum** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:30 am

Arglorand wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:why are arizona, arkansas, california, and orange county park of europe

also why is uk in eastern europe

Uhhhh, that's Ukraine?

... I'm not being serious

~~

by **Arglorand** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:31 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Uhhhh, that's Ukraine?

... I'm not being serious

~~

I couldn't be sure for a moment. Sorry.

by **Arumdaum** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:35 am

Arglorand wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:... I'm not being serious

~~

I couldn't be sure for a moment. Sorry.

i never knew illinois was an island either

fake edit: south carolina's in there too shiieet

real edits:

LOUISIANA

LOS ANGELES

georgia

!!!

by **Horusland** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:35 am

Arglorand wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:... I'm not being serious

~~

I couldn't be sure for a moment. Sorry.

hint: no caps
hint: it's arumdaum
hint: he mentioned american counties

by **Arglorand** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:36 am

HorusLand wrote:
Arglorand wrote:I couldn't be sure for a moment. Sorry.

hint: no caps
hint: it's arumdaum
hint: he mentioned american counties

*states

by **Horusland** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:38 am

Arglorand wrote:
HorusLand wrote:hint: no caps
hint: it's arumdaum
hint: he mentioned american counties

*states

same thang

by **Swedish Realm** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:14 am

How in God's name would Norway take over Sweden? HOW? What the hell is this? Do explain, please.

by **Swedish Realm** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:15 am

European Socialist Republic wrote:Something like this.
(Image)

Why would we be so small? What is this?

by **Horusland** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:21 am

Swedish Realm wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Something like this.
(Image)

Why would we be so small? What is this?

it's called 'making fun of everything'

by **Pope Joan** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:23 am

Indian Empire wrote:So, I took some time and made this map:

(Image)

It's what I propose as the map of Europe in 2100.

To see the map changes
Bregautne gains independence from France.
The United Kingdom Spits up into Cornwall, England, Wales, and Scotland.
Sarajevo Muslim State gains independence from Bosnia & Herzegovina.
Murmansk and Karelia join Finland
Italy Splits up into a North and South
Poland joins Lithuania to reform the Polish - Lithuanian Commonwealth
Greenland Joins Iceland
Northern Ireland to Ireland
Ivrengon and Pechony to Estonia
East Ukraine to Russia
Belarus to Russia
Moldova to Romania
Transylvania from Romania to Hungary
Transiteria from Ukraine to Hungary
Austria to Germany
Wallonia to Dutch Kingdom
Flanders & Luxembourg to France
Alsace region to Germany
Western Switzerland to France
Eastern Switzerland to Germany
Tirol Region from Italy to Germany.
Banat gains independence from Serbia
Catalonia gains independence from Spain
Basque gains independence from Spain
Crete gains independence from Greece
Sicily joins Malta
The Balearic Kingdom gains independence from Spain
Valencia gains independence from Spain
Galicia joins Portugal
Murcia gains independence from Spain
Adularia gains independence from Spain
Castile De Leon gains impendence from Spain
Asturias gains independence from Spain
Eastern Greece to Bulgaria
Makedonia region from Greece to Macedonia.
European Turkey from Turkey to Bulgaria
Southern Slovakia to Hungary
Czechoslovakia reforms
Deutschland from Czech republic to Germany
Norway and Sweden rejoin
Turkey renames as Byzantium
Corsica ceded to North Italy
Denmark to Germany

So, what does Nationstates think? Good? Bad? Changes you would make?

You may be interested in reading A Princess of Roumania, by Paul Park. In it, the world with which we are familiar is in fact an alternate reality, and in the real world Roumania (and greater Germany) are major powers, along with Russia, Turkey and...Abyssinia!

http://www.amazon.com/A-Princess-Rouman ... B000VYTYQQ

by **Horusland** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:26 am

Pope Joan wrote:You may be interested in reading A Princess of Roumania, by Paul Park. In it, the world with which we are familiar is in fact an alternate reality, and in the real world Roumania (and greater Germany) are major powers, along with Russia, Turkey and...Abyssinia!

http://www.amazon.com/A-Princess-Rouman ... B000VYTYQQ

By this time, I think a third of the population has the last name 'Popescu'.

by **Baltenstein** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:50 am

HorusLand wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:You may be interested in reading A Princess of Roumania, by Paul Park. In it, the world with which we are familiar is in fact an alternate reality, and in the real world Roumania (and greater Germany) are major powers, along with Russia, Turkey and...Abyssinia!

http://www.amazon.com/A-Princess-Rouman ... B000VYTYQQ

By this time, I think a third of the population has the last name 'Popescu'.

It's probably like the German "Müller", the Greek "Papadopoulos" and the Turkish "Mutlu".
What's Bulgaria's most common surname?

by **Horusland** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:54 am

Baltenstein wrote:
HorusLand wrote:By this time, I think a third of the population has the last name 'Popescu'.

It's probably like the German "Müller", the Greek "Papadopoulos" and the Turkish "Mutlu".
What's Bulgaria's most common surname?

I only know first names, outside of Romania.

by **Baltenstein** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:56 am

HorusLand wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
It's probably like the German "Müller", the Greek "Papadopoulos" and the Turkish "Mutlu".
What's Bulgaria's most common surname?

I only know first names, outside of Romania.

I think I confused things. Are you Romanian or Bulgarian?

(In case of the former: Sorry for the misunderstanding)

by **Horusland** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:57 am

Baltenstein wrote:
HorusLand wrote:I only know first names, outside of Romania.

I think I confused things. Are you Romanian or Bulgarian?

(In case of the former: Sorry for the misunderstanding)

Romanian-Magyar.

Found the Bulgarian names, though.

Ivanov/a, Georgiev/a, Dimitrov/a, Petrov/a, Nikolov/a, Hristov/a, Stoyanov/a, Todorov/a, Iliev/a and Vasilev/a.

this is totes irrelevant, though

by **The Count of Monte Cristo** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:06 am

Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Well...Poland-Lithuania would be sorta cool, but where's Sweden? In order for it to be a 'future map of Europe', give us some reason to believe this will happen.

Indeed.
An alternative map requires an alternative History, and you provide none.

by **Magna Libero** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:50 am

So many ethnic nationalists are going to hate you...

Also, lol at Norwegian Republic and Greater Germany. Thank goodness you didn't propose the Kalmar Union. :lol:

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