Putin Annexes More Land!

[Gauthier]

"It's none of America's business, who cares if the Russians are using fishing fleets?" - Typical NSG hipster

[Verdum]

Sarah Palin: "Nuke Putin, stop Russia's imperialist violations of fish rights!"

"We must end the suffering of the Fish People by turning them into a weapon!
"I propose we poison the sea with nuclear radiation! OUR STAGING POINT CAN BE ALASKA!"

[Herskerstad]

Jesus, the UN sure knows how to time em.

[Oaledonia]

I fail to see how this will aide Russia, despite straining their already shitty navy.

[Karelli]

The Water people have a right to self determination Putin!

[The Nuclear Fist]

Dur.

Until the goddess of the sea and sexuality from the Caribbean steps in to return them to the abyss.

Mother Hydra is no goddess of sexuality. Can you imagine the old girl in a bikini? Even as a Blind Idiot God, that idea gives me the shivers.

[Scholmeria]

From what i hear from Russians (who live actrually there) Putin is popular in rural places, while in Moscow and St. petersburg it is very different.

[Lancov]

This is probably where Putin will build his secret undersea lair.

[United Marxist Nations]

I fail to see how this will aide Russia, despite straining their already shitty navy.

Considering it's one of the biggest navies in the world (and one of only a few that has an aircraft carrier), I don't see how you can call it "shitty." Just because something isn't up to par with the US doesn't mean it's shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... Navy_ships

[Oaledonia]

I fail to see how this will aide Russia, despite straining their already shitty navy.

Considering it's one of the biggest navies in the world (and one of only a few that has an aircraft carrier), I don't see how you can call it "shitty." Just because something isn't up to par with the US doesn't mean it's shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... Navy_ships

I consider most other 1st world nations to have superior navies.
Plus aircraft carriers are not my point, don't make a baseless assumption. Destroyers are obviously the main combat vessel of any fleet, which Russia is lacking many of.

[Verdum]

I fail to see how this will aide Russia, despite straining their already shitty navy.

Considering it's one of the biggest navies in the world (and one of only a few that has an aircraft carrier), I don't see how you can call it "shitty." Just because something isn't up to par with the US doesn't mean it's shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... Navy_ships

I don't see freedom on those ships.
They are bound to lose their holdings from this.

[United Marxist Nations]

Considering it's one of the biggest navies in the world (and one of only a few that has an aircraft carrier), I don't see how you can call it "shitty." Just because something isn't up to par with the US doesn't mean it's shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ac ... Navy_ships

I consider most other 1st world nations to have superior navies.
Plus aircraft carriers are not my point, don't make a baseless assumption. Destroyers are obviously the main combat vessel of any fleet, which Russia is lacking many of.

Actually, I'd say aircraft carriers are more important, as they, you know, carry aircraft. And aircraft, of course, are very valuable when it comes to fighting a naval battle.

And again, how many countries have superior navies again? Like, 5?

[Oaledonia]

Actually, I'd say aircraft carriers are more important, as they, you know, carry aircraft. And aircraft, of course, are very valuable when it comes to fighting a naval battle.

Yes, it does. However, only having enough ships to pool a single strike group wont provide much power projection. Especially given that others will likely be using better aircraft.

And again, how many countries have superior navies again? Like, 5?

The US
United Kingdom
France
China

4, making it one of the worst blue water navies (which right now, is debatable if they even have a Blue Water title)

[United Marxist Nations]

Actually, I'd say aircraft carriers are more important, as they, you know, carry aircraft. And aircraft, of course, are very valuable when it comes to fighting a naval battle.

Yes, it does. However, only having enough ships to pool a single strike group wont provide much power projection. Especially given that others will likely be using better aircraft.

And again, how many countries have superior navies again? Like, 5?

The US
United Kingdom
France
China

4, making it one of the worst blue water navies (which right now, is debatable if they even have a Blue Water title)

Now tell me, since when are the Great Powers the standard unit for measurement, and how is having a continental shelf going to strain their admittedly 5th strongest navy in the world? It's not like the other great powers will go to war with them over it.

EDIT: Now, of course, it's less powerful than in the Soviet days, but to call it "shitty" is an overstatement when it ranks 5th out of about 200.

[Macedom]

i dont know if you know this but all it takes is one anti-ship missile to take out a aircraft carrier and russia has hundreds of them

[The North Polish Union]

Yes, it does. However, only having enough ships to pool a single strike group wont provide much power projection. Especially given that others will likely be using better aircraft.



The US
United Kingdom
France
China

4, making it one of the worst blue water navies (which right now, is debatable if they even have a Blue Water title)

Now tell me, since when are the Great Powers the standard unit for measurement,[...]

Well, if Russia wants to be considered a "Great Power" itself, its pretty reasonable, otherwise...

[United Marxist Nations]

i dont know if you know this but all it takes is one anti-ship missile to take out a aircraft carrier and russia has hundreds of them

I do know it, but you need a delivery system. Also, Russia is the one with the aircraft carrier I was talking about.

[United Marxist Nations]

Now tell me, since when are the Great Powers the standard unit for measurement,[...]

Well, if Russia wants to be considered a "Great Power" itself, its pretty reasonable, otherwise...

But you also have to realize that the days where the Great Powers went to war are pretty much over.

[Macedom]

i dont know if you know this but all it takes is one anti-ship missile to take out a aircraft carrier and russia has hundreds of them

I do know it, but you need a delivery system. Also, Russia is the one with the aircraft carrier I was talking about.

sorry i was talking to Oaledonia

[United Marxist Nations]

I do know it, but you need a delivery system. Also, Russia is the one with the aircraft carrier I was talking about.

sorry i was talking to Oaledonia

That's kind of what I thought.

[Oaledonia]

Now tell me, since when are the Great Powers the standard unit for measurement,[...]

Well, if Russia wants to be considered a "Great Power" itself, its pretty reasonable, otherwise...

^ That's my logic

i dont know if you know this but all it takes is one anti-ship missile to take out a aircraft carrier and russia has hundreds of them

I do know it, but you need a delivery system. Also, Russia is the one with the aircraft carrier I was talking about.

You also need to bypass the crazy SAMs and CIWS that any navy is bound to have

[Oaledonia]

Well, if Russia wants to be considered a "Great Power" itself, its pretty reasonable, otherwise...

But you also have to realize that the days where the Great Powers went to war are pretty much over.

But, politically, each one is still trying to outdo the others. Which is to say that it's unfair to compare Russia to a third world nation, when in reality it should be compared to the other world powers.

[United Marxist Nations]

Well, if Russia wants to be considered a "Great Power" itself, its pretty reasonable, otherwise...

^ That's my logic

The days of the Great Powers going to war appear to be over.

i dont know if you know this but all it takes is one anti-ship missile to take out a aircraft carrier and russia has hundreds of them

I do know it, but you need a delivery system. Also, Russia is the one with the aircraft carrier I was talking about.

You also need to bypass the crazy SAMs and CIWS that any navy is bound to have[/quote]
Which Russia also has.

[Senyosu]

The water spirits are mad now.

[Oaledonia]

Which Russia also has.

You also need to bypass the crazy SAMs and CIWS that any navy is bound to have