Islamic Jihad launches Rocket Barrage

[Herskerstad]

If you complete ignore rights for homosexuals, women, human development indexes, slave labor 'imported mainly from India' public beheading, moral police, witch trials, theocratic persecutions, international standards in general while also shelling every and all moral standards humanity ever conceived before making the statement, then sure.

Israel treats the Arabs and other minorities as second class citizens within Israel.

Which even if stood true would be no different a standard from any of their neighboring nations.

Besides, checked that second class arab Salim Joubran on the Israeli Supreme Court? It's not the first Arab to hold said humiliating second-class job in the nation. But hey, i am certain Hamas/Palestine in their infinite tolerance have had a Jewish or at least a Christian member of the supreme court.

[Risottia]

If you complete ignore rights for homosexuals, women, human development indexes, slave labor 'imported mainly from India' public beheading, moral police, witch trials, theocratic persecutions, international standards in general while also shelling every and all moral standards humanity ever conceived before making the statement, then sure.

Israel treats the Arabs and other minorities as second class citizens within Israel.

While the equality between Jew Israeli citizens and Israeli citizens other than ethnical Jews isn't perfect - and fully maintaining that the Israeli government has committed a lot of crimes against Palestinians and Lebanese - those difference pale in comparison to how non-Muslims, immigrants, and Muslim women are treated in Saudi Arabia. Or to how Iranian law considers women; Iran doesn't even attempt at claiming equality between men and women... and still the condition of women in Iran is way better than in a lot of other Islamic countries.

[Indira]

The Islamists will never win this war they picked with Israel, Israel is a nation built on survival, and it will endure. The Jihadists will fail, and Israel will emerge into a new Golden Age.

Of course. It's not like Israel has never been attacked before by terrorists...

[Gauthier]

Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go to "lol stoopid nazee moozlemz".

[Transoxthraxia]

Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go to "lol stoopid nazee moozlemz".

It is a key part of the topic, yes.

[Glorious Wonderland]

Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go to "lol stoopid nazee moozlemz".

no more than 'lol stoopid nazee israeleez', really

and could you stop being so apologist pls?

[Gauthier]

Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go to "lol stoopid nazee moozlemz".

no more than 'lol stoopid nazee israeleez', really

and could you stop being so apologist pls?

So it's apologist to point out how people in the thread reflexively brought up how Hitler was cordial with Arabs as a defense of Israeli settlement expansion and apartheid? Okay then.

[Transoxthraxia]

no more than 'lol stoopid nazee israeleez', really

and could you stop being so apologist pls?

So it's apologist to point out how people in the thread reflexively brought up how Hitler was cordial with Arabs as a defense of Israeli settlement expansion and apartheid? Okay then.

Kind of, actually.

[The Jonathanian States]

no more than 'lol stoopid nazee israeleez', really

and could you stop being so apologist pls?

So it's apologist to point out how people in the thread reflexively brought up how Hitler was cordial with Arabs as a defense of Israeli settlement expansion and apartheid? Okay then.

I might be reading this wrong, but AFAIK Hitlers cordiality with Arabs was brought up due to the comparison of Israel to the Nazis, and not as a justification for anything.

[Herskerstad]

no more than 'lol stoopid nazee israeleez', really

and could you stop being so apologist pls?

So it's apologist to point out how people in the thread reflexively brought up how Hitler was cordial with Arabs as a defense of Israeli settlement expansion and apartheid? Okay then.

I suspect you did not fully read through the context and rather quickly went into your normal antiques of defense by one-liner irony. But I did not compare the Palestinian resistance as a whole to nazism, the only factors that come in and above such elements are the Jihad and Hamas elements, the latter with great power as far as the conflict is concerned. The reason I posted the picture was that a user had compared Israel to Nazi-Germany, which, in context, should be reminded on which his side was flirting with during the time.

[CTALNH]

I would feel bad for Israel but their an imperialist preudo theocratic state so no bombs away jihadists just wait a minute so I can get my pop corn.

The dual standard in that paragraph alone should make you reconsider a bunch of things with your political outlook.

What theocratic douchebags killing other theocratic douchebags and me laughing in the sidelines is a bad thing?

[Herskerstad]

The dual standard in that paragraph alone should make you reconsider a bunch of things with your political outlook.

What theocratic douchebags killing other theocratic douchebags and me laughing in the sidelines is a bad thing?

More like cheering if your statement, as obtuse as it is stands goes into consideration.

Tell me, does any Jewish council overwrite the Israeli Supreme court? Is there a grand Mohelm which holds the position of chosen leader by God and above all other laws? Has there been a decree to raze every mosque to the ground and convert or kill all Christians? Or is this another situation where the CTALNH dictionary circumvents conventional logic?

[Desmendura]

Looks like America finally has a chance to interfere in a country's politics.

[Mizrad]

Looks like America finally has a chance to interfere in a country's politics.

But of course they won't take it.

[Stormhound]

The Islamists will never win this war they picked with Israel, Israel is a nation built on survival, and it will endure. The Jihadists will fail, and Israel will emerge into a new Golden Age.

With the millions of dollars that the U.S is pouring into it, sure. Take away that moolah and Israel would be crushed like gnats by the Arabs.

[Stolen Droplets]

That part of the world is fucked up...never gonna get better.

Israel is the only place safe enough to be...a flower behind barbed wire that no one can kill...it's sad but that's how that is. There's degrees to each one of the Islamic sects...

Shia
Hezbollah
Iran
Syrian President Assad and the Alawite Sect...

Sunni
Saudi Arabia
The other Members of the Arab League (AL)

Al Queda and Hezbollah hate Israel...they hate America...they hate Saudi Arabian leaders (such as King Abdullah...yet love the "Lifestyle" in the country) but hate each other.

Theres degrees to this whole shit....Moderates like those in Tunisia are open to "European-American" style democracy....the Muslim Brother hood wants enforced Sharia Law like Saudi Arabia...BOTH of those groups i mention hate Islamic extremism...so its complicated...people such as the Nusra Front and the ISIS want Islamism to dominate every part of a Muslims daily life and an extermination of Israel and America...

Hezbollah...likes the Sharia law part of Al Queda's platform but hates it and its members for not being Shia...Iran funds them after all...

So its a mess...suck ass too...i mean if use drones...to kill Al Queda bastards...you DONT destroy their ideology...you're killing their members...no one in that Al Queda will ever surrender...NO ONE...and every drone strike that kills just 1 bastard brings 10 more willing to fight "Infidels"...IT WILL NEVER END...until the ideology of Islamic Extremism is destroyed will the Middle East find a better place in our minds. Don't let the lines of the Sects be blured...theres a difference between Shia Hezbolla/Iran/Syria and Sunni Al Queda/Saudi Arabia/Muslim Brotherhood/Moderate Islam...

Unfortunately I have ABSOLUTELY NO SYMPATHY for these men...Let them die...I hate terrorists...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_ztfPLaStg

[Karelli]

Israel is to blame for this, their constant repression of the Palestinian communities in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip fuels a culture of resentment towards Israel. Of course, i'm not going to deny that Hamas and Hezbollah detest the Israeli nation and wish to see it burn. If the Palestinians could have their land; the West Bank and Gaza, then i think you'd see the potential amount of Terrorist recruits drop dramatically. If only the technology existed for Israel to create new land without the need to the conquer or oppress.

[Herskerstad]

Israel is to blame for this, their constant repression of the Palestinian communities in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip fuels a culture of resentment towards Israel. Of course, i'm not going to deny that Hamas and Hezbollah detest the Israeli nation and wish to see it burn. If the Palestinians could have their land; the West Bank and Gaza, then i think you'd see the potential amount of Terrorist recruits drop dramatically. If only the technology existed for Israel to create new land without the need to the conquer or oppress.

If any of this was true, there would not have been over 10000 missiles fired from the gaza strip since the Israeli withdrawal, which brings the greater problem to the table.

If Israel was to simply 'give' land to forces which wishes to see the nation burn, it would not inspire cordial relations, but be interpreted as weakness as it has always done. When you have a jihadi political mindset in the gaza strip. IE, Hamas, alongside a very tough, very dedicated fatah which also throw punches under the belt from time to time, and an Israeli nation which has learned from past mistakes, being barraged by rockets making it unlikely to get a government which will want to appease and give free concessions, very rightly so in my mind, then you will have this kind of continual political situation for the long term until either a Jihad mentality dissipates entirely, or the Jews get driven into the sea. Fatah desires to play a waiting game to get UN backing as Arab influence is gaining in power and stands amicable to their plight. Israel desires to have settlements placed every now and then to further limit the influence and position which Fatah has to force them to the negotiation table, in which they will get a surplus of land including settlements, or face them with the threat of becoming irrelevant by essentially diminishing them in each way possible based on a map and population basis. If Fatah wins their political goals before this point, there stands little evidence that they will not push their advantage as many in their ranks do desire a full-sized Palestine which would require the destruction of Israel, and there stand no shortage of forces that desire such in the region.

Hamas on the other hand is entirely impossible to negotiate with. They have it in their doctrine to at best drive the jews into the sea or at worst kill every jew there is. Before such aspects become rectified, there will be no lasting worthwhile treaties between the two sides. Seeing how they have pushed their political opposition underground, it is unlikely that an election will rectify the situation.

[Karelli]

Israel is to blame for this, their constant repression of the Palestinian communities in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip fuels a culture of resentment towards Israel. Of course, i'm not going to deny that Hamas and Hezbollah detest the Israeli nation and wish to see it burn. If the Palestinians could have their land; the West Bank and Gaza, then i think you'd see the potential amount of Terrorist recruits drop dramatically. If only the technology existed for Israel to create new land without the need to the conquer or oppress.

If any of this was true, there would not have been over 10000 missiles fired from the gaza strip since the Israeli withdrawal, which brings the greater problem to the table.

If Israel was to simply 'give' land to forces which wishes to see the nation burn, it would not inspire cordial relations, but be interpreted as weakness as it has always done. When you have a jihadi political mindset in the gaza strip. IE, Hamas, alongside a very tough, very dedicated fatah which also throw punches under the belt from time to time, and an Israeli nation which has learned from past mistakes, being barraged by rockets making it unlikely to get a government which will want to appease and give free concessions, very rightly so in my mind, then you will have this kind of continual political situation for the long term until either a Jihad mentality dissipates entirely, or the Jews get driven into the sea. Fatah desires to play a waiting game to get UN backing as Arab influence is gaining in power and stands amicable to their plight. Israel desires to have settlements placed every now and then to further limit the influence and position which Fatah has to force them to the negotiation table, in which they will get a surplus of land including settlements, or face them with the threat of becoming irrelevant by essentially diminishing them in each way possible based on a map and population basis. If Fatah wins their political goals before this point, there stands little evidence that they will not push their advantage as many in their ranks do desire a full-sized Palestine which would require the destruction of Israel, and there stand no shortage of forces that desire such in the region.

Hamas on the other hand is entirely impossible to negotiate with. They have it in their doctrine to at best drive the jews into the sea or at worst kill every jew there is. Before such aspects become rectified, there will be no lasting worthwhile treaties between the two sides. Seeing how they have pushed their political opposition underground, it is unlikely that an election will rectify the situation.

Nope, i meant give land(West Bank) to the peaceful Palestinians, it is their land atleast the West Bank is.

[CTALNH]

What theocratic douchebags killing other theocratic douchebags and me laughing in the sidelines is a bad thing?

More like cheering if your statement, as obtuse as it is stands goes into consideration.

Tell me, does any Jewish council overwrite the Israeli Supreme court? Is there a grand Mohelm which holds the position of chosen leader by God and above all other laws? Has there been a decree to raze every mosque to the ground and convert or kill all Christians? Or is this another situation where the CTALNH dictionary circumvents conventional logic?

Do I seem like I care?

I am an Antitheist destroying and disliking religion is like a goal to me.

The only people I feel sorry for are the atheist Israelis and atheist palestinians.

[Divair]

Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go to "lol stoopid nazee moozlemz".

Any threads about the Middle East are utterly shit.

[Karelli]

Well, that didn't take long for the thread to go to "lol stoopid nazee moozlemz".

Any threads about the Middle East are utterly shit.

Yep, you've got two camps.

1.) Pro-Zionists

These people cannot stand even considering handing over the rightful territory of Palestine(West Bank and Gaza Strip) and often offer the piss poor defence of "Muslims have 22 states, Jews have 1"

2.) The Anti Israel lobby (These guys aren't AntiSemitic despite pro Zionists saying such)

These people need to understand that the Jews were an oppressed people, and not peddle about how Israel is a "Cancer" to the world.

[Viritica]

Let's all join the blame Israel train! Choo-choo!

[Karelli]

Let's all join the blame Israel train! Choo-choo!

I'm Anti Israel personally. but the train looks full.

[Viritica]

Let's all join the blame Israel train! Choo-choo!

I'm Anti Israel personally. but the train looks full.

Because the Israelis so asked to have rockets hurled at them.