Islamic Jihad launches Rocket Barrage

[Rhodevus]

Tension in the middle east, News at 11.

Also, don't we have a megathread for this?

We have an Israeli/Palestine thread. I think this is more, news about the recent attack by Hamas.

If there is already a thread for this type of stuff, can you please post it? I would love to check it out

[Menassa]

Tension in the middle east, News at 11.

Also, don't we have a megathread for this?

We have an Israeli/Palestine thread. I think this is more, news about the recent attack by Hamas.

If there is already a thread for this type of stuff, can you please post it? I would love to check it out

Attacks on Israel, generally involve Israel.

The discussion of these attacks generally belong on the thread dedicated to discussing the current issues of Israel.

[Charleston Chiefs]

I still don't know how Hamas has any legitimacy with the Palestinians. Since the MB has fallen in Egypt, they have come crawling back to Iran. I wonder how they can stand with Iran while Iran supports an Assad regime that is killing far more Palestinians than Israel ever has.

[Herskerstad]

I still don't know how Hamas has any legitimacy with the Palestinians. Since the MB has fallen in Egypt, they have come crawling back to Iran. I wonder how they can stand with Iran while Iran supports an Assad regime that is killing far more Palestinians than Israel ever has.

Seems to stand just fine, a few days back a shipment was busted carrying Iranian missiles.

[Marcurix]

Jimmy Carter II won't do anything, but I'd assume Israel will respond with their standard invasion, followed with a "voluntary" withdrawal at the hands of the UN.

If it gets another peace deal like the Carter administration managed to secure, he can keep doing what he's doing.

[Mike the Progressive]

Jimmy Carter II won't do anything, but I'd assume Israel will respond with their standard invasion, followed with a "voluntary" withdrawal at the hands of the UN.

If it gets another peace deal like the Carter administration managed to secure, he can keep doing what he's doing.

The whole Israeli-Palestinian peace talks are a joke. Every president seems to do it with the hopes that they'll somehow stop the butchering that has been happening there for the last 2000 years. Seriously, it's a waste of time and money. Just carpet bomb the whole thing and call it day.

[Risottia]

So militants in Gaza decided to shoot scores of rockets into Southern Israel during the evening. ...

I'm sure this proves that bombing and raiding Gaza like Israel has been doing through the last 5-ish years stops terrorists. And you don't change a winning strategy.

Uhm.

Right now torrential rains are preventing any serious Israeli response, tho I imagine there will be one soon.

The powerful IDF war machine... From next year, also featuring umbrellas.

It's a pretty clear challenge to Israel and it would be politically difficult for Netanyahu to restrain the IDF, especially since they have been targeting Islamic Jihad militants as recently as this week.

Since they have been targeting Islamic Jihad militants as recently as this week, it's an ANSWER to Israel's challenge, actually.
Anyway, what do you mean "difficult to restrain the IDF"? The Israeli military isn't fully under the control of political power now? What is that, some sort of Middle-Eastern military regime?

We will see how this unfolds..

Simple. The Israeli armed forces will start the usual deliberate carnage of Palestinian civilians and fail to kill off the jihadist bosses. Cue victim relatives turning suicide bombers and sneaking through the Israeli borders within two years. Cue more Israeli outrage and electing more right-wing governments. Cue more expansion policy and peace talks getting set back by five years. Cue more Palestinian outrage and support for extremist hardliners.

Repeat.

Just carpet bomb the whole thing and call it day.

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way of reopening the Tethys Ocean.

[Cyraeneca]

If it gets another peace deal like the Carter administration managed to secure, he can keep doing what he's doing.

The whole Israeli-Palestinian peace talks are a joke. Every president seems to do it with the hopes that they'll somehow stop the butchering that has been happening there for the last 2000 years. Seriously, it's a waste of time and money. Just carpet bomb the whole thing and call it day.

Sarah Palin, is that you?

[Risottia]

The whole Israeli-Palestinian peace talks are a joke. Every president seems to do it with the hopes that they'll somehow stop the butchering that has been happening there for the last 2000 years. Seriously, it's a waste of time and money. Just carpet bomb the whole thing and call it day.

Sarah Palin, is that you?

Sarah Palin might be not your ideal type, but mistaking her for Tricky Dicky is frankly a bit too much.

[Costa Fierro]

I'm sure this proves that bombing and raiding Gaza like Israel has been doing through the last 5-ish years stops terrorists. And you don't change a winning strategy.

Talking doesn't work either. But hey, why change a situation where you've manufactured an excuse to beat the shit out of a fairly weaker and fairly defenseless state in the same of self defense? Russia does it and no one bitches, so why can't Israel?

[Risottia]

I'm sure this proves that bombing and raiding Gaza like Israel has been doing through the last 5-ish years stops terrorists. And you don't change a winning strategy.

Talking doesn't work either. But hey, why change a situation where you've manufactured an excuse to beat the shit out of a fairly weaker and fairly defenseless state in the same of self defense? Russia does it and no one bitches, so why can't Israel?

Well, call me when the Russian T-160s will be doing bomb runs over Kiev, for a closer analogy.

[Pope Joan]

"The rocket salvos come a day after an Israeli airstrike killed three Islamic Jihad members, who Israel claimed had fired mortar bombs at Israel."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 05347.html

Remember back in school? The bully got to punch a kid a few times, and nothing was done. But if the kid retaliated, then the bullied kid got sent to the principal's office.

So we know what places were hit? Were they indeed among the many illegal settlements?

[Sdaeriji]

So we know what places were hit? Were they indeed among the many illegal settlements?

I'm curious: why would that matter?

[Pope Joan]

So we know what places were hit? Were they indeed among the many illegal settlements?

I'm curious: why would that matter?

If the illegal settlements were not there, there would have been no rocket attack, no Israeli casualties.

Did you know New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft started his fortunes (actually his wife's) by promoting illegal settlements in Palestine?

[Benuty]

I'm curious: why would that matter?

If the illegal settlements were not there, there would have been no rocket attack, no Israeli casualties.

Did you know New England Patriots owner Bob Kraft started his fortunes (actually his wife's) by promoting illegal settlements in Palestine?

I really wouldn't call a toilet rocket a rocket attack.

[CTALNH]

I would feel bad for Israel but their an imperialist preudo theocratic state so no bombs away jihadists just wait a minute so I can get my pop corn.

[Imperializt Russia]

Plus. It doesn't hurt that US supports them.

You know that and pretty much every other western country.

No.

The US is one of the only countries that consistently supports Israel even diplomatically. It's the only state that provides significant amounts of aid, and the US basically props the Israeli state with military equipment and military aid.

[Persian Commonwealth]

I would feel bad for Israel but their an imperialist preudo theocratic state so no bombs away jihadists just wait a minute so I can get my pop corn.

I dislike Israel as well, they are just like nazi germany in their incessant ethnic cleansing, racism and xenophobia towards arabs.

[Herskerstad]

I would feel bad for Israel but their an imperialist preudo theocratic state so no bombs away jihadists just wait a minute so I can get my pop corn.

The dual standard in that paragraph alone should make you reconsider a bunch of things with your political outlook.

[Persian Commonwealth]

I would feel bad for Israel but their an imperialist preudo theocratic state so no bombs away jihadists just wait a minute so I can get my pop corn.

The dual standard in that paragraph alone should make you reconsider a bunch of things with your political outlook.

Israel is worse than all Saudi Arabia and Iran combined.

[Glorious Wonderland]

Israel is worse than all Saudi Arabia and Iran combined.

How so?

Israel may not be perfect, and it doesn't. It enforces silent apartheid to Arabs, ignoring UN's call, constructing illegal settlements, and very insisting upon blatant lies. However, it's arguably a freest nation in Middle East.
Saudi Arabia meanwhile is a crapsack theocracy ruled by either a corrupt royal family or an oligarchy of conservative clerical family which is responsible for demolishment of many Islamic historical sites, not to mention the state-enforced homophobia, cracking up of dissidents and death penalty for apostasy.

[Herskerstad]

I would feel bad for Israel but their an imperialist preudo theocratic state so no bombs away jihadists just wait a minute so I can get my pop corn.

I dislike Israel as well, they are just like nazi germany in their incessant ethnic cleansing, racism and xenophobia towards arabs.

Yeah, Nazi Germany sure was anti-arab. They certainly must have used all their efforts to counter the righteous Palestinian authority because they are the embodiment of evil.



Whoops, foot in mouth syndrome strikes again. I could go on to detail Hitler's rather amicable view towards Islam 'though not the arab race' and the muslim SS volunteers just to beat your dead horse of an argument, but I will settle for saying that if Israel wanted to ethnically cleanse the arabs. They would not have nearly 20% of their citizen population as Arabs, nor would there exist a single Palestinian today.

[Myrensis]

Because originally that land was our land.
Until centuries of abuse and harassment by various other civilizations drove us out.

What's it like being thousands of years old? Oh, wait, what you meant was "Thousands of years ago one or more of my ancestors probably lived in that general area, so I have the right to kill and conquer anyone who gets in the way of taking it back. And anyone who disagrees must obviously be an anti-semite."

[Herskerstad]

The dual standard in that paragraph alone should make you reconsider a bunch of things with your political outlook.

Israel is worse than all Saudi Arabia and Iran combined.

If you complete ignore rights for homosexuals, women, human development indexes, slave labor 'imported mainly from India' public beheading, moral police, witch trials, theocratic persecutions, international standards in general while also shelling every and all moral standards humanity ever conceived before making the statement, then sure.

[Persian Commonwealth]

Israel is worse than all Saudi Arabia and Iran combined.

If you complete ignore rights for homosexuals, women, human development indexes, slave labor 'imported mainly from India' public beheading, moral police, witch trials, theocratic persecutions, international standards in general while also shelling every and all moral standards humanity ever conceived before making the statement, then sure.

Israel treats the Arabs and other minorities as second class citizens within Israel.