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Should we Continue to Prosecute Nazi War Criminals?

Yes, justice must be served
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No, it makes little difference to prosecute them now that they're in their 80s and 90s
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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:01 am

Desmendura wrote:Yes, there must be justice for the deaths of many Jews regardless of condition.
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I say we've already done enough for the Jews...
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Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:04 am

God Kefka wrote:
Desmendura wrote:Yes, there must be justice for the deaths of many Jews regardless of condition.
Ah, I finally was able to post after a crappy internet.


I say we've already done enough for the Jews...


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Postby Desmendura » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:09 am

God Kefka wrote:
Desmendura wrote:Yes, there must be justice for the deaths of many Jews regardless of condition.
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I say we've already done enough for the Jews...

Yeah, maybe the various other war crimes they committed?
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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:10 am

Desmendura wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
I say we've already done enough for the Jews...

Yeah, maybe the various other war crimes they committed?


yeah.... like how come we don't go after them for what they do to the Palestinians the Middle Easterners?

Why do we overfixate so much on WWII we're going after NINETY YEAR OLD people for crimes over 60 years ago when there are more modern and recent crimes gone unpunished. Oh they are allies of the West that's why...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:11 am

God Kefka wrote:My response is basically...

King Robert: ''LET EM GO! ... LET EM GO!''

Why would anyone want to emulate Robert Baratheon?

Elderly servicemen should be allowed to rest in peace. Especially since the war's over for 69 years now I think...

Resting in peace is for dead people.

if anything you should go after the much younger American and British war criminals from later wars first... bit hypocritical to discriminate against the losing side from a pre-Cold War conflict in the 21st century when there are more recent cases that have gone un-prosecuted.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.


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Postby The Republic of Mattlandia » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:13 am

God Kefka wrote:
Desmendura wrote:Yeah, maybe the various other war crimes they committed?


yeah.... like how come we don't go after them for what they do to the Palestinians the Middle Easterners?

Why do we overfixate so much on WWII we're going after NINETY YEAR OLD people for crimes over 60 years ago when there are more modern and recent crimes gone unpunished. Oh they are allies of the West that's why...


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Postby Desmendura » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:14 am

God Kefka wrote:
Desmendura wrote:Yeah, maybe the various other war crimes they committed?


yeah.... like how come we don't go after them for what they do to the Palestinians the Middle Easterners?

Why do we overfixate so much on WWII we're going after NINETY YEAR OLD people for crimes over 60 years ago when there are more modern and recent crimes gone unpunished. Oh they are allies of the West that's why...

Hmmm. Looks like some countries (in real life) can't just move on from that.
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:17 am

Desmendura wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
yeah.... like how come we don't go after them for what they do to the Palestinians the Middle Easterners?

Why do we overfixate so much on WWII we're going after NINETY YEAR OLD people for crimes over 60 years ago when there are more modern and recent crimes gone unpunished. Oh they are allies of the West that's why...

Hmmm. Looks like some countries (in real life) can't just move on from that.


Even after the last Holocaust survivor dies, the legacy of the event will still live on. Probably not forever (who knows what things will be like in the far future...) but for a very long time to come.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:18 am

The Republic of Mattlandia wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
I say we've already done enough for the Jews...


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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:20 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Desmendura wrote:Hmmm. Looks like some countries (in real life) can't just move on from that.


Even after the last Holocaust survivor dies, the legacy of the event will still live on. Probably not forever (who knows what things will be like in the far future...) but for a very long time to come.


I'm not a big fan of the Eternal Victims...

It's 2014 for crying out loud and some people want to go after 90 year old people for alleged crimes in the 1940s. NINETEEN FORTIES FOR GOD'S SAKE!

Aren't there more modern crimes that are going unpunished?

This is clearly discrimination against Nazis...
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:36 am

God Kefka wrote:
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:
Even after the last Holocaust survivor dies, the legacy of the event will still live on. Probably not forever (who knows what things will be like in the far future...) but for a very long time to come.


I'm not a big fan of the Eternal Victims...

It's 2014 for crying out loud and some people want to go after 90 year old people for alleged crimes in the 1940s. NINETEEN FORTIES FOR GOD'S SAKE!

Aren't there more modern crimes that are going unpunished?

This is clearly discrimination against Nazis...

How many times do you need to be told that prosecuting Nazi war criminals does not preclude prosecuting other war criminals, or other criminals of any kind, or any other government action of any kind, before it sinks in?

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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:39 am

Ifreann wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
I'm not a big fan of the Eternal Victims...

It's 2014 for crying out loud and some people want to go after 90 year old people for alleged crimes in the 1940s. NINETEEN FORTIES FOR GOD'S SAKE!

Aren't there more modern crimes that are going unpunished?

This is clearly discrimination against Nazis...

How many times do you need to be told that prosecuting Nazi war criminals does not preclude prosecuting other war criminals, or other criminals of any kind, or any other government action of any kind, before it sinks in?


it doesn't work like that in the real world... we have very limited resources for these things. Got to mobilize them for the more recent crimes... we've already given the Jews some satisfaction with Nuremberg. Now let the rest go.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:44 am

God Kefka wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How many times do you need to be told that prosecuting Nazi war criminals does not preclude prosecuting other war criminals, or other criminals of any kind, or any other government action of any kind, before it sinks in?


it doesn't work like that in the real world... we have very limited resources for these things. Got to mobilize them for the more recent crimes... we've already given the Jews some satisfaction with Nuremberg. Now let the rest go.

So, after Nuremberg, we should have just let it go? Even Eichmann?
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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:51 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
it doesn't work like that in the real world... we have very limited resources for these things. Got to mobilize them for the more recent crimes... we've already given the Jews some satisfaction with Nuremberg. Now let the rest go.

So, after Nuremberg, we should have just let it go? Even Eichmann?


i think so yeah...
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Postby Islamic Republic e Jariri » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:58 am

It has been a very long time, you do make a point. The world really should move on by now, there is really nothing good that can come of jailing these ancient fossils of former nazis. Surely we are not that depraved to be just as bad as them.

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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:58 am

Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:It has been a very long time, you do make a point. The world really should move on by now, there is really nothing good that can come of jailing these ancient fossils of former nazis. Surely we are not that depraved to be just as bad as them.


that's exactly right... that's exactly right...
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:00 am

God Kefka wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:So, after Nuremberg, we should have just let it go? Even Eichmann?


i think so yeah...

So, the guy who actually organized it should have gone free?
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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:01 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
i think so yeah...

So, the guy who actually organized it should have gone free?


if he was so important than why wasn't he indicted at Nuremburg?

At any rate I'm sure he was just following orders...
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Postby Nervium » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:01 am

Kind of makes me think of the banality of evil.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:02 am

God Kefka wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:So, after Nuremberg, we should have just let it go? Even Eichmann?


i think so yeah...

So let's say, hypothetically, that it turns out Hitler fled, and pops up tomorrow. Do we let him go too?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:03 am

God Kefka wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:So, the guy who actually organized it should have gone free?


if he was so important than why wasn't he indicted at Nuremburg?

At any rate I'm sure he was just following orders...

Because he ran away. "Just following orders" is not a valid defense, especially when you designed the process.
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Postby Nervium » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:03 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
i think so yeah...

So let's say, hypothetically, that it turns out Hitler fled, and pops up tomorrow. Do we let him go too?


Obviously not.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:04 am

God Kefka wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:So, the guy who actually organized it should have gone free?


if he was so important than why wasn't he indicted at Nuremburg?

At any rate I'm sure he was just following orders...

Probably because he fled before he could be captured.
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Postby God Kefka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:04 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
if he was so important than why wasn't he indicted at Nuremburg?

At any rate I'm sure he was just following orders...

Because he ran away. "Just following orders" is not a valid defense, especially when you designed the process.


i think following orders from the government is a pretty good defense...
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:05 am

God Kefka wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Because he ran away. "Just following orders" is not a valid defense, especially when you designed the process.


i think following orders from the government is a pretty good defense...

Do you define international law?
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