Should we Continue to Prosecute Nazi War Criminals?

[Alyakia]

Yes, shooting a surrendered soldier counts.

That happened on both sides, try harder.

point?

[Neutraligon]

The Nazi Third Reich is one of the most notorious groups in history. I don't give two shits if they are the oldest person alive, EXECUTE THEM.

Nazi's should only be the start. Any intentional act of Genocide or Multiple Homicide should be met with a quick, sharp, shot to the brain.

Being a Nazi war criminal does not always mean someone is guilty of genocide or homicide.

Indeed. Half my family was killed during the Holocaust (yay living in Poland and Austria), a good number who weren't killed survived the different concentration and death camps (including Auschwitz); I have no desire to see the people who killed and tortured my family killed in turn. I do think that a trial is important. It is a recognition that wrongs were possibly perpetrated against people by a very specific person, rather than by a group as a whole.

[Wisconsin9]

Yes, shooting a surrendered soldier counts.

That happened on both sides, try harder.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Roski]

That happened on both sides, try harder.

point?

-Soviet War Heros were arrested by the Kremlin, because Joseph Stalin was a fucking Maniac.-

[Mike the Progressive]

That happened on both sides, try harder.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Nope, it makes a tragedy.

[Neutraligon]

point?

-Soviet War Heros were arrested by the Kremlin, because Joseph Stalin was a fucking Maniac.-

And?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Being a Nazi war criminal does not always mean someone is guilty of genocide or homicide.

Yes, shooting a surrendered soldier counts.

If you participated in the forced labor program and were not purposely starving prisoners to death, you are a Nazi war criminal who never committed genocide or homicide.

[The balkens]

That happened on both sides, try harder.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Basically.

[Wisconsin9]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Basically.

You understand that I was making a point against your "try harder", right?

[Mike the Progressive]

Yes, shooting a surrendered soldier counts.

If you participated in the forced labor program and were not purposely starving prisoners to death, you are a Nazi war criminal who never committed genocide or homicide.

I am curious though, is a bystander who sees injustice done just a bystander?

[Roski]

-Soviet War Heros were arrested by the Kremlin, because Joseph Stalin was a fucking Maniac.-

And?

Well, if they weren't war heroes, they were killed by Nazis....

[Nazi Flower Power]

Being a Nazi war criminal does not always mean someone is guilty of genocide or homicide.

Indeed. Half my family was killed during the Holocaust (yay living in Poland and Austria), a good number who weren't killed survived the different concentration and death camps (including Auschwitz); I have no desire to see the people who killed and tortured my family killed in turn. I do think that a trial is important. It is a recognition that wrongs were possibly perpetrated against people by a very specific person, rather than by a group as a whole.

Would you be OK with Greater Nepal's idea to let them come forward and apologize in exchange for having their sentence automatically commuted?

[Orangi]

Aren't they like... All going to die pretty god damn soon anyway due to old age? Isn't the point of life to be better than your foe?

why even bother? They know what they did, and I'm sure a lot of them have had time to reflect on it and regret what they did. Now of course there's very likely plenty who don't.

Even still, what's the point?

[The balkens]

Basically.

You understand that I was making a point against your "try harder", right?

Oh.....

The try harder part was actually me getting a tad angry. My apologies.

[Mike the Progressive]

Indeed. Half my family was killed during the Holocaust (yay living in Poland and Austria), a good number who weren't killed survived the different concentration and death camps (including Auschwitz); I have no desire to see the people who killed and tortured my family killed in turn. I do think that a trial is important. It is a recognition that wrongs were possibly perpetrated against people by a very specific person, rather than by a group as a whole.

Would you be OK with Greater Nepal's idea to let them come forward and apologize in exchange for having their sentence automatically commuted?

I personally would not.

[Neutraligon]

Indeed. Half my family was killed during the Holocaust (yay living in Poland and Austria), a good number who weren't killed survived the different concentration and death camps (including Auschwitz); I have no desire to see the people who killed and tortured my family killed in turn. I do think that a trial is important. It is a recognition that wrongs were possibly perpetrated against people by a very specific person, rather than by a group as a whole.

Would you be OK with Greater Nepal's idea to let them come forward and apologize in exchange for having their sentence automatically commuted?

Honestly I think it depends on the crime committed, and the degree to which they were involved. If Himmler came forward (just an example), I would have some serious issues with it automatically being commuted. For others who were possibly just bystanders, or who did not necessarily actively try to harm people, I think I would be much more open to that. I think I would prefer something like house arrest, rather then it being commuted, depending on the circumstances. Although, I also don't like the idea of if the person gets away with it for long enough, then they should not have to face the consequences of their actions.

[Orangi]

Would you be OK with Greater Nepal's idea to let them come forward and apologize in exchange for having their sentence automatically commuted?

Honestly I think it depends on the crime committed, and the degree to which they were involved. If Himmler came forward (just an example), I would have some serious issues with it automatically being commuted. For others who were possibly just bystanders, or who did not necessarily actively try to harm people, I think I would be much more open to that.

Like average Nazi troops right?

[Mike the Progressive]

Honestly I think it depends on the crime committed, and the degree to which they were involved. If Himmler came forward (just an example), I would have some serious issues with it automatically being commuted. For others who were possibly just bystanders, or who did not necessarily actively try to harm people, I think I would be much more open to that.

Like average Nazi troops right?

Do you mean the Wehrmacht? Or the SS?

The latter of which, I have little sympathy for.

[The balkens]

Honestly I think it depends on the crime committed, and the degree to which they were involved. If Himmler came forward (just an example), I would have some serious issues with it automatically being commuted. For others who were possibly just bystanders, or who did not necessarily actively try to harm people, I think I would be much more open to that.

Like average Nazi troops right?

Like the regular Wehrmacht?

[The Ben Boys]

Or we could save the legal fees and they'll all be dead in four or five years. They're not worth the time, especially since they were just guards and not ones that could actually make a difference or even caused the Holocaust. I really hate to say this, but many were just average citizens who were mad at the world for screwing them over and followed the first person to say "you're not a piece of shit". Sadly, that lunatic made them into something else entirely.

If it was the 60s, 70s, or even 80s I'd send them into the Bloc. If they weren't dying as we speak, I'd say send them to Syria.

[Neutraligon]

Honestly I think it depends on the crime committed, and the degree to which they were involved. If Himmler came forward (just an example), I would have some serious issues with it automatically being commuted. For others who were possibly just bystanders, or who did not necessarily actively try to harm people, I think I would be much more open to that.

Like average Nazi troops right?

I do not like the excuse that I was just following orders, to allow the massacre and torture of people is despicable. I feel they were complicit because they did not act. Rather, I have no sympathy for such an excuse. That being said, each case is individual. Some were coerced or had other mitigating factors. I would say that there needs to be more to such a program. I see the trial as a recognition of wrongs committed. There is, anonymity in quietly coming forward, which I feel is slightly problematic. I guess my views are a little confused.

[The balkens]

Like average Nazi troops right?

Do you mean the Wehrmacht? Or the SS?

The latter of which, I have little sympathy for.

Quite.

[The Ben Boys]

If you participated in the forced labor program and were not purposely starving prisoners to death, you are a Nazi war criminal who never committed genocide or homicide.

I am curious though, is a bystander who sees injustice done just a bystander?

Like how every villager in Dachau somehow didn't smell the stench.

I'm not even kidding, they actually said this as the Americans liberated it.

[Roski]

I am curious though, is a bystander who sees injustice done just a bystander?

Like how every villager in Dachau somehow didn't smell the stench.

I'm not even kidding, they actually said this as the Americans liberated it.

*Liberated? I think you mean bombed

[Mike the Progressive]

They're not worth the time, especially since they were just guards and not ones that could actually make a difference or even caused the Holocaust.
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Though there is a difference. If memory serves me correctly the SS-TV were the ones who took over the concentration camps in the 40s. Not the Wehrmacht. Fanaticism was a requirement, so were they really just guards?

As for the Wehrmacht, I never believed any of them should be targeted (except senior officials). From what I understand most of them were just soldiers. The SS on the other hand...