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by Britanno » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:29 am

by Ifreann » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:30 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:Ifreann wrote:I don't think it's arbitrary to decline to prosecute dead people.
Because you assume they'd enjoy your hyperbole, loaded questions, and intellectual dishonesty?
Funny. The one accusing me of loaded questions is bringing intellectual dishonesty into a moral debate, rather than say, a factual debate.
So, theoretically speaking if the third reich had succeeded in the final solution then survived long enough that the generation who did so died off. You would have no problems with a hypothetical modern third reich because the people who commited genocide are dead?

by Sdaeriji » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:32 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:Ifreann wrote:I don't think it's arbitrary to decline to prosecute dead people.
Because you assume they'd enjoy your hyperbole, loaded questions, and intellectual dishonesty?
Funny. The one accusing me of loaded questions is bringing intellectual dishonesty into a moral debate, rather than say, a factual debate.
So, theoretically speaking if the third reich had succeeded in the final solution then survived long enough that the generation who did so died off. You would have no problems with a hypothetical modern third reich because the people who commited genocide are dead?

by Eastern Equestria » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:50 am

by Divair » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:51 am
Eastern Equestria wrote:My question is: assuming these men are known Nazi war criminals (unlike the one mentioned in the OP) then why haven't they been prosecuted already?

by Britcan » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:53 am

by Eastern Equestria » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:04 am

by Divair » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:08 am
Eastern Equestria wrote:Divair wrote:They managed to hide? Rather obvious.
If they're in hiding and have kept their identities and existence so well hidden, then how are there public outcries for their personal prosecution? smartass
We're discussing whether or not known Nazi war criminals should be prosecuted in their old age. Men like the one referenced in the OP, who's address you could go visit because they're not in hiding.

by Eastern Equestria » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:19 am
Divair wrote:Eastern Equestria wrote:
If they're in hiding and have kept their identities and existence so well hidden, then how are there public outcries for their personal prosecution? smartass
We're discussing whether or not known Nazi war criminals should be prosecuted in their old age. Men like the one referenced in the OP, who's address you could go visit because they're not in hiding.
Because they've been found?

by Divair » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:23 am
Eastern Equestria wrote:Divair wrote:Because they've been found?
Except that virtually all of them have already have been found and prosecuted, or are still at large. And the ones that have been "found" (such as the one in the OP who has never been in hiding) can't definitively be called war criminals.

by Juggalo world » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:28 am
by Ainin » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:29 am
Eastern Equestria wrote:And of the ones that have been "found" (such as the one in the OP who has never been in hiding) many can't definitively be called war criminals.

by Farnhamia » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:30 am
Juggalo world wrote:Yes,everyone of those basterds should be found and shot no matter how old they are.
by Lyassa and Nairoa » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:32 am

by Arvena » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:42 am

by Eastern Equestria » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:42 am
Divair wrote:Eastern Equestria wrote:
Except that virtually all of them have already have been found and prosecuted, or are still at large. And the ones that have been "found" (such as the one in the OP who has never been in hiding) can't definitively be called war criminals.
That's for the trials to decide.

by Neutraligon » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:52 am
Eastern Equestria wrote:Divair wrote:That's for the trials to decide.Ainin wrote:Of course they can't. Presumption of innocence exists after all. But that doesn't affect anything.
Right. So getting back to my original point, why haven't they been tried yet? If the suspicion is supposedly great enough to warrant a day in court, then why haven't these survivors (if there really are any legitimate ones left in the open) been tried?

by Occupied Deutschland » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:09 am

by Divair » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:31 am
Eastern Equestria wrote:Divair wrote:That's for the trials to decide.Ainin wrote:Of course they can't. Presumption of innocence exists after all. But that doesn't affect anything.
Right. So getting back to my original point, why haven't they been tried yet? If the suspicion is supposedly great enough to warrant a day in court, then why haven't these survivors (if there really are any legitimate ones left in the open) been tried?

by The Tarantara Dominion » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:52 am
Islamic Republic e Jariri wrote:What of those Nazis who didn't themselves partake in the killings, but were fully aware of their happenings.
And what of those who claimed they were following orders?

by The Tarantara Dominion » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:53 am
Neutraligon wrote:Eastern Equestria wrote:
Right. So getting back to my original point, why haven't they been tried yet? If the suspicion is supposedly great enough to warrant a day in court, then why haven't these survivors (if there really are any legitimate ones left in the open) been tried?
Lack of sufficient evidence at this point. New information an the Holocaust continues to show up.
As to the OP, they should be prosecuted. Age or length of time from the crime should not matter (we still go after murderers 20 years down the line, the same should be true here).

by Mizrad » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:56 am

by Eastern Equestria » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:08 pm
Divair wrote:Eastern Equestria wrote:
Right. So getting back to my original point, why haven't they been tried yet? If the suspicion is supposedly great enough to warrant a day in court, then why haven't these survivors (if there really are any legitimate ones left in the open) been tried?
Because they were only found recently? We've been over this, seriously.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:09 pm
Eastern Equestria wrote:My question is: assuming these men are known Nazi war criminals (unlike the one mentioned in the OP) why haven't they been prosecuted already?
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