Does America need a bit of Socialism

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Hey kids, let's steer this back to the original discussion wether or not America needs socialism, or a dash of it.

The OP mean a welfare state though, but that's okay.

I think we do need a welfare state in America.

Now, full socialism? Nah, we're fine.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Hey kids, let's steer this back to the original discussion wether or not America needs socialism, or a dash of it.

The OP mean a welfare state though, but that's okay.

Well, learning to distinguish social democracy, socialism, communism, Marxism, Marxism-Leninism and Bolshevism is thus part of the discussion.

[Nervium]

Hey kids, let's steer this back to the original discussion wether or not America needs socialism, or a dash of it.

The OP mean a welfare state though, but that's okay.

I think we do need a welfare state in America.

Now, full socialism? Nah, we're fine.

Well, obviously not fine, not starving all, but mediocrially doing "alright" I guess.

Hey kids, let's steer this back to the original discussion wether or not America needs socialism, or a dash of it.

The OP mean a welfare state though, but that's okay.

Well, learning to distinguish social democracy, socialism, communism, Marxism, Marxism-Leninism and Bolshevism is thus part of the discussion.

I don't know, I also don't know if the audience you are directing is listening or even acknowledging the disctinctions.

[European Socialist Republic]

Do we need workplace democracy? I'd say yes.

[America Libertaria]

Hey kids, let's steer this back to the original discussion wether or not America needs socialism, or a dash of it.

The OP mean a welfare state though, but that's okay.

I think we do need a welfare state in America.

Now, full socialism? Nah, we're fine.

I agree. We should take the Social Democracy route.

[CTALNH]

Marxism Leninism is Stalinism.

No. The first is communist, the second is not.

Google Marxism Leninism and see who coined said thing...

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

No. The first is communist, the second is not.

Google Marxism Leninism and see who coined said thing...

Lenin? lol

The name might be after he was not already the leader but still.

[European Socialist Republic]

No. The first is communist, the second is not.

Google Marxism Leninism and see who coined said thing...

Stalin coming up with the term doesn't prove that he was a Marxist-Leninist.

[CTALNH]

Google Marxism Leninism and see who coined said thing...

Lenin? lol

The name might be after he was not already the leader but still.

The phrase "Marxism–Leninism" was introduced by Joseph Stalin in the 1930s to distinguish the new synthesis of Marxism with the theories of Lenin. However, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union retained Marxism–Leninism in its programme after the denunciation of Stalin, thus making a distinction between Marxism–Leninism and "Stalinism". Marxism–Leninism developed into distinctive variations based on its application to unique local historical conditions, the most notable being Stalinism (based on the theory of Socialism in One Country) and Maoism (based on peasant-based revolution in underdeveloped countries). ~ wikipedia/

[Pilotto]

Hey kids, let's steer this back to the original discussion wether or not America needs socialism, or a dash of it.

The OP mean a welfare state though, but that's okay.

Well, learning to distinguish social democracy, socialism, communism, Marxism, Marxism-Leninism and Bolshevism is thus part of the discussion.

Considering that the OP did not mean any of these things, I do not see how they are relevant to the discussion.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Well, learning to distinguish social democracy, socialism, communism, Marxism, Marxism-Leninism and Bolshevism is thus part of the discussion.

Considering that the OP did not mean any of these things, i do not see how they are relevant to the discussion.

How many lines the OP wrote again?

I'm impressed that this thread wasn't locked for its poverty.

They are relevant as criticism of OP's ignorance.

[Socialist Austrian Empire]

He is more of a communist to me.

I don't know. I'd say he's kind of a nazi to me.

Since when did obama start talking about executing jewish people, communists and homosexuals? I think that you are a bit off base.

[Vadorva]

You mean more than Obamacare? No we don't in any way

[Divair]

You mean more than Obamacare? No we don't in any way

Obamacare is not socialist. It's pandering to private insurance companies.

[Nervium]

You mean more than Obamacare? No we don't in any way

Obamacare isn't socialist. It's in fact creating alot of money for insurance corporations.

[Divair]

You mean more than Obamacare? No we don't in any way

Obamacare isn't socialist. It's in fact creating alot of money for insurance corporations.

Already beat you to it. Word for word.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

You mean more than Obamacare? No we don't in any way

Obamacare isn't socialist. It's in fact creating alot of money for insurance corporations.

It's so corporate-friendly, that it was originally something invented by Republicans.

[Vadorva]

You mean more than Obamacare? No we don't in any way

Obamacare isn't socialist. It's in fact creating alot of money for insurance corporations.

It's costing people more than its helping, there are millions without insurance because of Obamacare. And how is Obamacare not socialist

[New Connorstantinople]

The USA should NOT imitate Europe in economics, its a no-brainer that capitalism works better in that sense, but PERHAPS it could imitate it in CERTQIN AREAS of social programs. I'd propose that the USA should remain center-right, so that it can see both centrism and moderately right politics. Socialism has NOT proven itself superior in economics, and this seems to be a pretty clear case of the grass being always green on the other side.

[European Socialist Republic]

Obamacare isn't socialist. It's in fact creating alot of money for insurance corporations.

It's costing people more than its helping, there are millions without insurance because of Obamacare. And how is Obamacare not socialist

Does Obamacare give workers control over the means of production?

[Divair]

It's costing people more than its helping,

Source.

there are millions without insurance because of Obamacare.

Source.

And how is Obamacare not socialist

Because it has nothing to do with workers owning the means of production. It's not even social democratic.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

It's costing people more than its helping, there are millions without insurance because of Obamacare. And how is Obamacare not socialist

Do you realize Obamacare is the carbon copy of an early 90s Republican legislation project

[Divair]

The USA should NOT imitate Europe in economics

Your loss.

[America Libertaria]

Obamacare isn't socialist. It's in fact creating alot of money for insurance corporations.

It's so corporate-friendly, that it was originally something invented by Republicans.

Yeah, but that's when the republicans weren't as crazy as they are today. They were still crazy nonetheless.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

The USA should NOT imitate Europe in economics, its a no-brainer that capitalism works better in that sense, but PERHAPS it could imitate it in CERTQIN AREAS of social programs. I'd propose that the USA should remain center-right, so that it can see both centrism and moderately right politics. Socialism has NOT proven itself superior in economics, and this seems to be a pretty clear case of the grass being always green on the other side.

If your social inequality continues growing, soon enough you will have social conditions like those in Latin America.

Your people need health, education and welfare big time, it's a no-brainer.