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by Neo Philippine Empire » Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:35 am

by Duvniask » Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:40 am
New Colorado Republic wrote:America already has some socialism. I'm talking before Obamacare too. Ever since the end of the great depression, we have had socialist policies.
Social Security
Medicare
Public schooling
Welfare

by Pilotto » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:35 am
72o wrote:Fix the healthcare system. Beyond that, no. America doesn't need more 'socialism'. I definitely don't wanna see the US go full europe.
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by Divair » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:41 am
Pilotto wrote:72o wrote:Fix the healthcare system. Beyond that, no. America doesn't need more 'socialism'. I definitely don't wanna see the US go full europe.
What do you mean by "fix the healthcare system"? That could mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people.
Other than that I agree.

by Vlad Dracul » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:43 am

by Divair » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:44 am
Vlad Dracul wrote:If you know the idiom well enough to be pedantic about it, you know it well enough to know what was meant.
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by Pilotto » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:47 am
Neo Philippine Empire wrote:But from my observation,America is going to be a far right nation like Nazi Germany
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by Divair » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:49 am
Pilotto wrote:Divair wrote:Presumably since we're talking about "socialism", he means a national healthcare system.
Well there are lots of things you could do to "fix" the healthcare system that do not involve entrusting something as important as healthcare to the incompetent bureaucratic machine (also known as government). Allowing people to purchase health insurance from across state lines, for instance.

by Sebtopiaris » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:50 am
Vlad Dracul wrote:Sheldon Cooper is only funny on TV, in real life nobody likes a 'sperger.

by Pilotto » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:52 am
Divair wrote:Pilotto wrote:Well there are lots of things you could do to "fix" the healthcare system that do not involve entrusting something as important as healthcare to the incompetent bureaucratic machine (also known as government). Allowing people to purchase health insurance from across state lines, for instance.
The equivalent of giving someone a bandage for a laceration.
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by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:54 am
Pilotto wrote:entrusting something as important as healthcare to the incompetent bureaucratic machine (also known as government).

by Alyekra » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:55 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Pilotto wrote:entrusting something as important as healthcare to the incompetent bureaucratic machine (also known as government).
If I lived in a country without public healthcare, I'd be just ashamed, ashamed.
It's like saying it's okay for people who don't have money to die.
Don't you feel bad for lagging behind Brazil, China and Saudi Arabia?

by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:56 am
Alyekra wrote:No, it's saying there's a better way to solve problems than stealing things.

by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:58 am

by Sebtopiaris » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:00 am

by Pilotto » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:03 am
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by Estado Paulista » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:04 am
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Pilotto wrote:entrusting something as important as healthcare to the incompetent bureaucratic machine (also known as government).
If I lived in a country without public healthcare, I'd be just ashamed, ashamed.
It's like saying it's okay for people who don't have money to die.
Don't you feel bad for lagging behind Brazil, China and Saudi Arabia?



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by Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:05 am
Pilotto wrote:Alyekra wrote:
No, it's saying there's a better way to solve problems than stealing things.
Indeed. Government is by nature corrupt and inefficient. Entrusting more responsibility than is necessary to the government is not a good idea.
Also, poor people in America (like me, a broke college student) are not left to die if they can't pay for treatment.
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by Pilotto » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:05 am
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