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Would you ever want to not feel?

Postby The Emerald Legion » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:37 pm

So, having just watched the movie equilibrium...

I pose to you this question, if the possibility existed to utterly suppress your emotions. Say, in the form of a pill taken once a day. You would feel nothing. No anger, no sadness, no happiness, no joy, no guilt, Absolutely nothing... You'd be the stoic. Only more so.

Would you take it? Would you sacrifice the highs of emotion, in order to suppress the lows?

Now, again what if it were something that, if done once, you could never feel again, rather than something that you could choose to stop?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:37 pm

Done it. Would not try again.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:39 pm

It could be useful in some environments like school and work.

Besides that, not really.
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Postby Stovokor » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:39 pm

Yes, also we do it all the time.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:40 pm

Stovokor wrote:Also i'm a sociopath.

Please take a number and stand quietly with the others.
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Postby Vetalia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:41 pm

It's the heights of emotion that compensate for the lows, so nothing.
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:43 pm

Galloism wrote:Done it. Would not try again.

This. It sucked
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Postby Microsol » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:43 pm

I'd rather die. Trying to throw away everything you feel is cowardice.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:43 pm

Sometimes.
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Postby Olthar » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:43 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:So, having just watched the movie equilibrium...

Oh, you poor, unfortunate creature. :(
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Postby Stovokor » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:44 pm

Galloism wrote:
Stovokor wrote:Also i'm a sociopath.

Please take a number and stand quietly with the others.

I know right, either way I was hoping this topic would get more lively, thus I gave my standpoint.
If i'm responding to you directly, it is generally safe to disregard everything that was said and assume i'm calling you a twit.
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Postby Frisivisia » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:44 pm

If I were to be very depressed, it would be nice to throw out the lows that were left unsatisfied by the lack of highs.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:45 pm

Stovokor wrote:
Galloism wrote:Please take a number and stand quietly with the others.

I know right, either way I was hoping this topic would get more lively, thus I gave my standpoint.

That's fine.


Hey guys, we're going to need to buy another one of those number machine things.
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Postby Olthar » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:46 pm

Frisivisia wrote:If I were to be very depressed, it would be nice to throw out the lows that were left unsatisfied by the lack of highs.

As someone currently overcoming depression, I wouldn't take it. I'd rather feel terrible than not feel at all.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:47 pm

Out of school...

I was once very depressed because I was fearful. But without my fear, I'd further feed it and it could end up dangerous, because I also felt anger and bravado about the situation, and wanted to kill and fuck up with him.

I was once very rebellious and angry against the people who took me to their house. I would never suppress my feelings for them. I actually wanted much better to suppress their existence. I think I'd regret if I did at the time, but they never really changed.
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Postby Basking Turtles » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:48 pm

"I feel nothing"

Recommended reading for everyone who wants to understand depression. It also answers this thread's question.

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Postby Utceforp » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:48 pm

Sure, I would. The benefits outweigh the losses.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:52 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:So, having just watched the movie equilibrium...

I pose to you this question, if the possibility existed to utterly suppress your emotions. Say, in the form of a pill taken once a day. You would feel nothing. No anger, no sadness, no happiness, no joy, no guilt, Absolutely nothing... You'd be the stoic. Only more so.

Would you take it? Would you sacrifice the highs of emotion, in order to suppress the lows?

Now, again what if it were something that, if done once, you could never feel again, rather than something that you could choose to stop?


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Postby Solaray » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:54 pm

No. I'm fine with the lows, as the highs are worth it.
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Postby Margno » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:54 pm

Hell no. What I'm so sad about is that I'm not happy.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:55 pm

Basking Turtles wrote:"I feel nothing"

Recommended reading for everyone who wants to understand depression. It also answers this thread's question.

It's very much what I feel every single day I have to occupy the same space as my stepmother.

But, not content with being a poor host, she's also a terrible human being, and will annoy the fuck out of me for anything, and if I ignore her, then she will annoy the fuck out of my father so that then he can annoy the fuck out of mine. So my lack of feelings had a toxic aspect. I felt like either killing myself or killing them in many, many times, in many, many ways.
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Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:57 pm

Frisivisia wrote:If I were to be very depressed, it would be nice to throw out the lows that were left unsatisfied by the lack of highs.

A general lack of feeling isn't an uncommon aspect of depression, and it can be just as terrible as the moments you're crying your eyes out, if not worse.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:57 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:If I were to be very depressed, it would be nice to throw out the lows that were left unsatisfied by the lack of highs.

A general lack of feeling isn't an uncommon aspect of depression, and it can be just as terrible as the moments you're crying your eyes out, if not worse.

I never felt sad, actually. (Wouldn't call frustration, shame and hatred sadness, thinking about it more.)
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Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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Postby Utceforp » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:01 pm

Basking Turtles wrote:"I feel nothing"

Recommended reading for everyone who wants to understand depression. It also answers this thread's question.

The author describes lacking feeling as boring. Boredom is a feeling.

The world would be a considerably better place if we stopped, as a species, viewing the outside world through the bias caused by individual experiences caused by emotions.

Ideally it would be an on/off switch, and possibly one that can switch off feeling in emergencies when emotion has rendered you unable to think rationally and turn off your irrationality, but since that's arbitrarily not an option, I'd pick not feeling.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:02 pm

Utceforp wrote:The author describes lacking feeling as boring. Boredom is a feeling.

The world would be a considerably better place if we stopped, as a species, viewing the outside world through the bias caused by individual experiences caused by emotions.

We have more things to do than being depressed.
Pro: Communism/anarchism, Indigenous rights, MOGAI stuff, bodily autonomy, disability rights, environmentalism
Meh: Animal rights, non-harmful religion/superstition, militant atheism, left-leaning reform of capitalism
Anti: Dyadic superstructure (sex-gender birth designation and hierarchy), positivism, conservatism, imperialism, Zionism, Orientalism, fascism, religious right, bending to reactionary concerns before freedom/common concern, fraudulent beliefs and ideologies

Formerly "Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro".

Compass: -10.00, -9.13
S-E Ideology: Demc. Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)
S-E school of thought: Communist (100% ditto, 96% Post-Keynesian)

Though this says I'm a social democrat, I'm largely a left communist.

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