Triumph des Willens - Greatest Film Ever Created

[Neu Leonstein]

Well, I was told not to use German. But I will respond in English.

Hehe, worried about google translate's reliability?

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Well, most of the ones who murdered the poor Jews were Ukrainians, Romanians, Hungarians, Czechs, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, etc.

They blamed Jews for the Soviet invasions.

My grandfather who was in the SS himself, does not and did not have a problem with Jews.

I can have quite some fun, and good conversations with Nazi's, really. A debate with you guys always touches my very soul, which makes it feel like I'm using the dark side in a 'duel of the fates' kind of debate.

But stop it. Really, you're going too far. Don't say the Germans were not responsible for the eleven million civilians murdered in the death camps. Bergen-Belsen, Auschwitz... German run, German made and German used camps to exterminate people on an industrial scale. Don't blame it on the Slavs. Yes, they did some things, too. Not nice things, either. But there is a difference between hatred and the mass extermination of an entire ethnic group, because yo believe them to be inferior. Germany was responsible for every single death in the concentration camps in the period 1933-1946, and it was because they were National Socialist. Because they believed other races were inferior, and because a Nazi government can't take criticism, eleven million people died. These murders are not simply a byproduct of your ideology. They are inherent. The National Socialist ideology has to be brutal, aggressive and merciless to work. The same goes for a Stalinist state. The inherent violence of such a system cannot be ignored, and is enough proof for me that a fascist state will never work.

I really do grow tired of people like you telling us that we should feel guilty for our past, or something.

National Socialism does not have to have these kinds of things happen, simple deportation is enough.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Well, I was told not to use German. But I will respond in English.

Hehe, worried about google translate's reliability?

No, they told me that a National Socialist using German was very suspicious, and that it would cause them to follow everything I say very closely.

I have to say, I protest this badgering of yours. It is very annoying, as well as irrelevant.

I always knew people in the North were "different"

After all, it took one of us to lead you people in the right direction.

[Liriena]

Even Freddy Got Fingered is better than Triumph des Willens.

By the way, do you honestly believe that a failed genocidal cult of personality with imperialistic delusions that collapsed twelve years after its birth, unable to survive the suicide of its founding father, was the greatest nation in history?

[Themiclesia]

As far as production, the industry was ravaged by the allies, of course they would produce less than them

The industry was quickly rebuilt after the end of the Great War. Mercedes were rolling off the production line in no time.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Even Freddy Got Fingered is better than Triumph des Willens.

By the way, do you honestly believe that a failed genocidal cult of personality with imperialistic delusions that collapsed twelve years after its birth, unable to survive the suicide of its founding father, was the greatest nation in history?

Yes, I do.

Do not insult Nazi Germany like that, please, my grandfather served faithfully for it.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

As far as production, the industry was ravaged by the allies, of course they would produce less than them

The industry was quickly rebuilt after the end of the Great War. Mercedes were rolling off the production line in no time.

Well, yes.....if Nazi Germany had won the war, it would have been rebuilt the same.

[New Libertarian States]

Even Freddy Got Fingered is better than Triumph des Willens.

By the way, do you honestly believe that a failed genocidal cult of personality with imperialistic delusions that collapsed twelve years after its birth, unable to survive the suicide of its founding father, was the greatest nation in history?

Yes, I do.

Do not insult Nazi Germany like that, please, my grandfather served faithfully for it.

He/she may do as they please, as thread ownership in general doesn't exist.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Yes, I do.

Do not insult Nazi Germany like that, please, my grandfather served faithfully for it.

He/she may do as they please, as thread ownership in general doesn't exist.

Well, I am not commanding him to cease, I am asking.

This is not 1936, I am not a master of society

[Themiclesia]

The industry was quickly rebuilt after the end of the Great War. Mercedes were rolling off the production line in no time.

Well, yes.....if Nazi Germany had won the war, it would have been rebuilt the same.

If only the film was shot in colour! It was shown to us students during history lecture, and it is agreed that Riefenstahl did a fine job turning something monstrous into an aesthetically refined film.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I can have quite some fun, and good conversations with Nazi's, really. A debate with you guys always touches my very soul, which makes it feel like I'm using the dark side in a 'duel of the fates' kind of debate.

But stop it. Really, you're going too far. Don't say the Germans were not responsible for the eleven million civilians murdered in the death camps. Bergen-Belsen, Auschwitz... German run, German made and German used camps to exterminate people on an industrial scale. Don't blame it on the Slavs. Yes, they did some things, too. Not nice things, either. But there is a difference between hatred and the mass extermination of an entire ethnic group, because yo believe them to be inferior. Germany was responsible for every single death in the concentration camps in the period 1933-1946, and it was because they were National Socialist. Because they believed other races were inferior, and because a Nazi government can't take criticism, eleven million people died. These murders are not simply a byproduct of your ideology. They are inherent. The National Socialist ideology has to be brutal, aggressive and merciless to work. The same goes for a Stalinist state. The inherent violence of such a system cannot be ignored, and is enough proof for me that a fascist state will never work.

I really do grow tired of people like you telling us that we should feel guilty for our past, or something.

National Socialism does not have to have these kinds of things happen, simple deportation is enough.

Can you hear what you're saying? Simple deportation? To where, exactly? Gays, Jews... They have exactly the same right to live in your country as you do, if they are born there. They were placed on this earth without a choice of birthplace or skin colour, so you better treat them like that.

And I'm not telling you to feel guilty of your past. I am telling you to learn from it. That amount of racism, violence against dissidents and hunger for conquest was not only a problem for Nazi Germany under paranoid Hitler, it is inherent to your system. No peaceful way to incorporate National Socialist ideas in a nation will work. That is what I am trying to tell you.

[Gravlen]

I'm not the only one tired of winter, I see...

Hehe, worried about google translate's reliability?

No, they told me that a National Socialist using German was very suspicious, and that it would cause them to follow everything I say very closely.

I have to say, I protest this badgering of yours. It is very annoying, as well as irrelevant.

I always knew people in the North were "different"

After all, it took one of us to lead you people in the right direction.

"They"? Who are "they"?

Believe me - The Holocaust was a terrible thing, but genocide and National Socialism do NOT have to go hand in hand.

Yet you support genocide in principle, so that's a moot point.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Well, yes.....if Nazi Germany had won the war, it would have been rebuilt the same.

If only the film was shot in colour! It was shown to us students during history lecture, and it is agreed that Riefenstahl did a fine job turning something monstrous into an aesthetically refined film.

Well, my grandfather, who served in the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler" lived there during the period, and told me it was absolutely wonderful

[Neu Leonstein]

I have to say, I protest this badgering of yours. It is very annoying, as well as irrelevant.

No, what is annoying is teenage Anglophone neonazis running around, claiming to be German (or Austrian, for that matter), and then linking this fact consistently with their political views. I know you think this stuff was all very cool, and if this grandfather of yours exists he might even share this view. But actual real life modern Germans do not, and to be honest, this one at least preferred it if you didn't make the claims you did. Especially since not so far in the future, once you've grown up a little more, you'll think back at this stuff you write and notice just how cringeworthy it is.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

I'm not the only one tired of winter, I see...

No, they told me that a National Socialist using German was very suspicious, and that it would cause them to follow everything I say very closely.

I have to say, I protest this badgering of yours. It is very annoying, as well as irrelevant.

I always knew people in the North were "different"

After all, it took one of us to lead you people in the right direction.

"They"? Who are "they"?

Believe me - The Holocaust was a terrible thing, but genocide and National Socialism do NOT have to go hand in hand.

Yet you support genocide in principle, so that's a moot point.

Northerners - Germans.

I do not support genocide, mass deportation is not genocide, friend

[Themiclesia]

If only the film was shot in colour! It was shown to us students during history lecture, and it is agreed that Riefenstahl did a fine job turning something monstrous into an aesthetically refined film.

Well, my grandfather, who served in the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler" lived there during the period, and told me it was absolutely wonderful

Did he star in the film?

[Tagmatium]

I have to say, I protest this badgering of yours. It is very annoying, as well as irrelevant.

No, what is annoying is teenage Anglophone neonazis running around, claiming to be German (or Austrian, for that matter), and then linking this fact consistently with their political views. I know you think this stuff was all very cool, and if this grandfather of yours exists he might even share this view. But actual real life modern Germans do not, and to be honest, this one at least preferred it if you didn't make the claims you did. Especially since not so far in the future, once you've grown up a little more, you'll think back at this stuff you write and notice just how cringeworthy it is.

Assuming this is real...

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

I have to say, I protest this badgering of yours. It is very annoying, as well as irrelevant.

No, what is annoying is teenage Anglophone neonazis running around, claiming to be German (or Austrian, for that matter), and then linking this fact consistently with their political views. I know you think this stuff was all very cool, and if this grandfather of yours exists he might even share this view. But actual real life modern Germans do not, and to be honest, this one at least preferred it if you didn't make the claims you did. Especially since not so far in the future, once you've grown up a little more, you'll think back at this stuff you write and notice just how cringeworthy it is.

I am not a teenager, friend. I am 20 years old.

I will say again, I am Austrian, and none of your lies or accusations will change that.

[Vorkova]

If only the film was shot in colour! It was shown to us students during history lecture, and it is agreed that Riefenstahl did a fine job turning something monstrous into an aesthetically refined film.

Well, my grandfather, who served in the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler" lived there during the period, and told me it was absolutely wonderful

Your grandfather served in a criminal organisation known worldwide for it's war crimes? That's a strange thing to be proud of.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Well, my grandfather, who served in the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler" lived there during the period, and told me it was absolutely wonderful

Did he star in the film?

No of course not.

[Vorkova]

No, what is annoying is teenage Anglophone neonazis running around, claiming to be German (or Austrian, for that matter), and then linking this fact consistently with their political views. I know you think this stuff was all very cool, and if this grandfather of yours exists he might even share this view. But actual real life modern Germans do not, and to be honest, this one at least preferred it if you didn't make the claims you did. Especially since not so far in the future, once you've grown up a little more, you'll think back at this stuff you write and notice just how cringeworthy it is.

I am not a teenager, friend. I am 20 years old.

I will say again, I am Austrian, and none of your lies or accusations will change that.

And you apparently served as a border guard in the GDR. We already know all of this.

[Liriena]

Even Freddy Got Fingered is better than Triumph des Willens.

By the way, do you honestly believe that a failed genocidal cult of personality with imperialistic delusions that collapsed twelve years after its birth, unable to survive the suicide of its founding father, was the greatest nation in history?

Yes, I do.

Did anyone, at any point in your life, teach you world history? And no, your grandfather doesn't count.

Do not insult Nazi Germany like that, please, my grandfather served faithfully for it.

I don't care if your grandfather faithfully served in that embarrassingly insane abomination of a regime. Nazi Germany was the epitome of failure, which makes that piece of garbage propaganda called Triumph des Willens all the more ironically delectable. It barely lasted twelve years, left an entire continent in ruins, with millions of innocents butchered, and the only thing it accomplished in the end was bring an end to European supremacy in the world stage, leaving the world in the hands of the United States and the USSR. Oh, and just to top it off, it also meant the definitive loss of the old Prussian eastern territories. Good job there, master race.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

I really do grow tired of people like you telling us that we should feel guilty for our past, or something.

National Socialism does not have to have these kinds of things happen, simple deportation is enough.

Can you hear what you're saying? Simple deportation? To where, exactly? Gays, Jews... They have exactly the same right to live in your country as you do, if they are born there. They were placed on this earth without a choice of birthplace or skin colour, so you better treat them like that.

And I'm not telling you to feel guilty of your past. I am telling you to learn from it. That amount of racism, violence against dissidents and hunger for conquest was not only a problem for Nazi Germany under paranoid Hitler, it is inherent to your system. No peaceful way to incorporate National Socialist ideas in a nation will work. That is what I am trying to tell you.

I do not believe that. I believe in ethnocentrism. I do not think they have the same right. They have a place, just not in Austria

Hitler may have become paranoid, but National Socialism as an idea does not stray, only a man can.

[Themiclesia]

Did he star in the film?

No of course not.

What a shame: imagine the infamy! Good film though, that much I grant.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

Yes, I do.

Did anyone, at any point in your life, teach you world history? And no, your grandfather doesn't count.

Do not insult Nazi Germany like that, please, my grandfather served faithfully for it.

I don't care if your grandfather faithfully served in that embarrassingly insane abomination of a regime. Nazi Germany was the epitome of failure, which makes that piece of garbage propaganda called Triumph des Willens all the more ironically delectable. It barely lasted twelve years, left an entire continent in ruins, with millions of innocents butchered, and the only thing it accomplished in the end was bring an end to European supremacy in the world stage, leaving the world in the hands of the United States and the USSR. Oh, and just to top it off, it also meant the definitive loss of the old Prussian eastern territories. Good job there, master race.

World History is a class I have right now in the college I attend.

It ended abruptly because the corrupt warmongers could not bare to see a successful nation which did not conform to their fragile sensibilities.