Triumph des Willens - Greatest Film Ever Created

[Kelinfort]

Especially Schindler's List ... I mean Taken is ok.

But certainly not this propaganda piece.

I found Schindler's List very offensive.

Taken highlighted the fact that those Eastern Europeans are still engaging in barbarous acts of sex-slave trafficking, they are left unchecked.

Just because sex trafficking occurs today, doesn't diminish the fact that it's true.

Funny that. Sex trafficking occurs all over the world. Even in Germany and Austria.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

I found Schindler's List very offensive.

Taken highlighted the fact that those Eastern Europeans are still engaging in barbarous acts of sex-slave trafficking, they are left unchecked.

Just because sex trafficking occurs today, doesn't diminish the fact that it's true.

Funny that. Sex trafficking occurs all over the world. Even in Germany and Austria.

I know it happens in Austria, there are many Turks.

[Kelinfort]

Just because sex trafficking occurs today, doesn't diminish the fact that it's true.

Funny that. Sex trafficking occurs all over the world. Even in Germany and Austria.

I know it happens in Austria, there are many Turks.

Now, why did you find Schindler's List offensive?

Austrians also sex traffic other Austrians.

[Tapferkeit und Ehre]

I know it happens in Austria, there are many Turks.

Now, why did you find Schindler's List offensive?

Austrians also sex traffic other Austrians.

It misportrayed the honorable SS men, they made them act like soviets.

No. No Austrian would ever betray a fellow countryman.

[Kelinfort]

Now, why did you find Schindler's List offensive?

Austrians also sex traffic other Austrians.

It misportrayed the honorable SS men, they made them act like soviets.

No. No Austrian would ever betray a fellow countryman.

Your honorable SS men committed those atrocities.

And I'm sorry to say, it happens.

[The Archregimancy]

Well, I was told not to use German. But I will respond in English.

Hehe, worried about google translate's reliability?

No - I told him to stop posting in German in threads about fascism.

It makes it much harder to moderate if people are posting in German rather than the forum's default language, so I'll gently note that polite request to stick to English in these threads applies to everyone.

Edit:

I am leaving this thread open for now for two reasons:

A) As offensive as Tapferkeit und Ehre's ideology is to most members of NSG, he - so far, in this thread at least - hasn't broken any rules while arguing in favour of that ideology (more specifically in favour of a film supporting that ideology). I would particularly remind everyone that he acknowledges the reality of the Holocaust (even while arguing that it was the responsibility of non-Germans working for the Nazis).

B) One of the best ways of countering an offensive ideology is to expose it to ridicule via the very same free exchange of ideas that would be denied under a fascist regime.

But please don't break the rules if you take route B.

Remember that Tapferkeit und Ehre is a serial rule breaker who's already reached his fourth or fifth nation (despite his attempts to be polite in this thread, the consequences of arguing in favour of Nazism, even when not denying the Holocaust, are such that warnings and bans for trolling are essentially inevitable) and that level of serial rule breaking almost inevitably brings consequences from the New Order of Moderation, as the defective rule-breaking posters are cleansed for the glory of the Moderation Reich. Expect to see victorious action on this battle front in the near future.

Heil Moderation!

Obergruppenführer Archregimancy


Edit 2:

Following further discussion, a final solution to the Fascist German Union problem has now been implemented.

However I'll leave this thread unlocked since a discussion of the supposed virtues (or otherwise) of Triumph of the Will is entirely valid.

I would be grateful, however, if you restricted discussion to the actual film, and didn't focus on the character or origin of an OP who is no longer around to trouble us.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Following further discussion, a final solution to the Fascist German Union problem has now been implemented.

Ah... Auf wiedersehen, meine Volksgenosse! *does Nazi salute* (Don't worry, the German doesn't say anything bad.)

However I'll leave this thread unlocked since a discussion of the supposed virtues (or otherwise) of Triumph of the Will is entirely valid.

I would be grateful, however, if you restricted discussion to the actual film, and didn't focus on the character or origin of an OP who is no longer around to trouble us.

I got Triumph of the Will on DVD when I lived in China. Didn't care for it. It might be because this was during the 15 years of my life when I wasn't into Nazis.

[Hyosong]

I imagine that the OP's sentiments are shared by a large number of protestors in Ukraine.

[AiliailiA]

Following further discussion, a final solution to the Fascist German Union problem has now been implemented.

Ah... Auf wiedersehen, meine Volksgenosse! *does Nazi salute* (Don't worry, the German doesn't say anything bad.)

However I'll leave this thread unlocked since a discussion of the supposed virtues (or otherwise) of Triumph of the Will is entirely valid.

I would be grateful, however, if you restricted discussion to the actual film, and didn't focus on the character or origin of an OP who is no longer around to trouble us.

I got Triumph of the Will on DVD when I lived in China. Didn't care for it. It might be because this was during the 15 years of my life when I wasn't into Nazis.

Like yourself I became fascinated by the Nazi regalia (and the architecture and the weapons). But I was over it by the age of 15.

[Hyosong]

Like yourself I became fascinated by the Nazi regalia (and the architecture and the weapons). But I was over it by the age of 15.

The Reich were snappy dressers, I'll give them that much.

[AiliailiA]

Like yourself I became fascinated by the Nazi regalia (and the architecture and the weapons). But I was over it by the age of 15.

The Reich were snappy dressers, I'll give them that much.

Not so much Goering though. 280 pounds of shit in a 200 pound bag.

[Nervium]

I unrespectfully disagree. The best film ever created is the Lion King.

[Hyosong]

I unrespectfully disagree. The best film ever created is the Lion King.

I prefer Aladdin.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Ah... Auf wiedersehen, meine Volksgenosse! *does Nazi salute* (Don't worry, the German doesn't say anything bad.)

I got Triumph of the Will on DVD when I lived in China. Didn't care for it. It might be because this was during the 15 years of my life when I wasn't into Nazis.

Like yourself I became fascinated by the Nazi regalia (and the architecture and the weapons). But I was over it by the age of 15.

As a kid, I didn't really understand how bad the 3rd Reich was, and I kind of thought they were cool. Then I got a proper explanation of what a concentration camp was and decided they were not so cool after all. I wasn't interested in them for a long time after that.

But then when I was 26 I got interested again and started reading up about the history. That was the same year I joined NS.

I watched Triumph of the Will when I was in my early 20s and I got so bored that I literally fell asleep on my couch while I was watching it. Never bothered to try watching it again once I got interested in Nazis...

[Nazi Flower Power]

The Reich were snappy dressers, I'll give them that much.

Not so much Goering though. 280 pounds of shit in a 200 pound bag.

Yeah, he was pretty disgusting. He really looked the part of the fat greedy bastard -- which is exactly what he was, but some people are more subtle about that sort of thing.

[Cannot think of a name]

I unrespectfully disagree. The best film ever created is the Lion King.

I prefer Aladdin.

Wizard of Speed and Time, clearly.

Sleep tight!

[Nervium]

I prefer Aladdin.

Wizard of Speed and Time, clearly.

Sleep tight!

That's indeed a very good propaganda movie.

[Gallup]

It is pretty stupid. Olympia (I think it was called that) was better.

However, both movies are propaganda for one of the worst regimes on earth.

[Seleucas]

Despite its evil purpose, I would agree that it is an incredible work of cinematography. Leni Riefenstahl clearly understood how to manipulate her audience.

Like yourself I became fascinated by the Nazi regalia (and the architecture and the weapons). But I was over it by the age of 15.

As a kid, I didn't really understand how bad the 3rd Reich was, and I kind of thought they were cool. Then I got a proper explanation of what a concentration camp was and decided they were not so cool after all. I wasn't interested in them for a long time after that.

But then when I was 26 I got interested again and started reading up about the history. That was the same year I joined NS.

I watched Triumph of the Will when I was in my early 20s and I got so bored that I literally fell asleep on my couch while I was watching it. Never bothered to try watching it again once I got interested in Nazis...

So... what did you find out that made more of an impression than the death camps?

[Orphalese]

What about The Producers? Or that one where Christopher Lee acted out Pakistan's founder? Blazing Saddles?

You could have picked classier Nazi Propaganda. Their take on The Titanic had me reeling in my chair.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Despite its evil purpose, I would agree that it is an incredible work of cinematography. Leni Riefenstahl clearly understood how to manipulate her audience.

As a kid, I didn't really understand how bad the 3rd Reich was, and I kind of thought they were cool. Then I got a proper explanation of what a concentration camp was and decided they were not so cool after all. I wasn't interested in them for a long time after that.

But then when I was 26 I got interested again and started reading up about the history. That was the same year I joined NS.

I watched Triumph of the Will when I was in my early 20s and I got so bored that I literally fell asleep on my couch while I was watching it. Never bothered to try watching it again once I got interested in Nazis...

So... what did you find out that made more of an impression than the death camps?

Huh?

I never went back to rooting for the Nazis. I just got interested in the history. It's Albert Speer's fault that I got completely obsessed and stayed interested in it for so long, but the reason I read his memoirs in the first place was just historical curiosity similar to why I read about the Civil War or the Tokugawa shoguns.

[Nazi Flower Power]

:(

What about The Producers?

"Springtime for Hitler" is what Nazi propaganda SHOULD be.