Obama orders pentagon to prepare for afghan withdrawl

[Srboslavija]

So he finally justified winning the Nobel Peace prize, heh.

Now about that Guantanamo ...

[The Nuclear Fist]

Now about that Guantanamo ...

Partisan hackery detected.

As soon as a state allows Gitmo prisoners to be moved to one of their facilities, the thing will shut down.

The fact that the closure has been railroaded at every junction does not mean it was intentionally kept open by the president.

[San-Silvacian]

"Obama is a spineless liberal pussy who's surrendering to the terrorists!!!!!111"

We've been doing this since Bush tbh.

Every so many months a popular politician is like "OMG MILITARY GET OUT NOAW", even though the US Military has been doing this for years and takes credit for how many troops left.

So, yeah some will think that but rly its been happening for years.

Give America an actual state of war, and just brutally slaughter the Taliban. Leave with that as a message to all terrorist forces who want to mess with the States

Right, because the US military wouldn't inadvertently wreck civilian population centers and commit murder on a massive scale (not being edgy, I mean they'll massacre civilians), and just fuel the fire around the world, turning more and more people to commit acts of terror against the US and it's allies. This totally would not happen. Totally.

The world has been having wars for a few minutes, though my sauce isn't reliable, so maybe this is the first conflict ever, but I think these things happen in ever single kind of armed conflict ever to happen in human history. Ever.

[The Laissez-Fairy]

Seems to be what Karzai wants. Maybe the next president there will see it differently.

[Maroza]

I can't help but wonder if we will end up going back and then it becomes a running joke that Americas solution to everything is invade Afghanistan. (kinda like the french and surrendering)

[San-Silvacian]

So he finally justified winning the Nobel Peace prize, heh.

Now about that Guantanamo ...

So when will Daddy Bush, Clinton and all them get their prizes?

I didn't know withdrawing troops was worthy of any prize than the long-loved "Yay now the risk of US troops being killed overseas has gone down a little bit more!" award.

[Herador]

Right, because the US military wouldn't inadvertently wreck civilian population centers and commit murder on a massive scale (not being edgy, I mean they'll massacre civilians), and just fuel the fire around the world, turning more and more people to commit acts of terror against the US and it's allies. This totally would not happen. Totally.

The world has been having wars for a few minutes, though my sauce isn't reliable, so maybe this is the first conflict ever, but I think these things happen in ever single kind of armed conflict ever to happen in human history. Ever.

Nice smarm, but see, I'm referring to the tidal wave of violence that would have to be used to try and "just brutally slaughter the Taliban", a group of fighters known for, among other things hiding among the population.

[Terra Sector Union]

Boo.

Thanks Obama for your anti-imperialism.

[San-Silvacian]

The world has been having wars for a few minutes, though my sauce isn't reliable, so maybe this is the first conflict ever, but I think these things happen in ever single kind of armed conflict ever to happen in human history. Ever.

Nice smarm, but see, I'm referring to the tidal wave of violence that would have to be used to try and "just brutally slaughter the Taliban", a group of fighters known for, among other things hiding among the population.

The thing is the Taliban weren't even the primary bad guys, they were one of the few groups that didn't go bugger into everyone else's shit. They were one of the more powerful warring bands that actually had some decent (though it was harsh), control in the regions they were in. We suddenly come it, claim we're good and they are the bad guys, it doesn't help were a predominantly Christian claiming nation so we then start up the old hog-wash Islam/Christianity conflict to bare. So we stirred the hornets nest. Then proceed to drop a few dozen 500lb JDAMs on it.

Its the groups like Al-Queda that fucked with the wrong people and brought down 'Murica and their trademarked Freedomizering.

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

Promises of removing troops from a foreign land to appease to the general public and/or the international community. I wonder where I've heard that before?

[Herador]

Nice smarm, but see, I'm referring to the tidal wave of violence that would have to be used to try and "just brutally slaughter the Taliban", a group of fighters known for, among other things hiding among the population.

The thing is the Taliban weren't even the primary bad guys, they were one of the few groups that didn't go bugger into everyone else's shit. They were one of the more powerful warring bands that actually had some decent (though it was harsh), control in the regions they were in. We suddenly come it, claim we're good and they are the bad guys, it doesn't help were a predominantly Christian claiming nation so we then start up the old hog-wash Islam/Christianity conflict to bare. So we stirred the hornets nest. Then proceed to drop a few dozen 500lb JDAMs on it.

Its the groups like Al-Queda that fucked with the wrong people and brought down 'Murica and their trademarked Freedomizering.

What? For the record, I agree with you, but nothing you said was ever even brought up, all I said was that to

just brutally slaughter the Taliban.

would cause magnitudes of damage more than it would fix.

[Vareiln]

ture, but do you agree with what i said before?

To a degree. The Afghan military will be able to handle itself but they would be a lot more efficient with more training. Right now I think both sides will be looking for peace and once the Coalition leaves, that will come. If the conflict drags on, the Afghan government will probably win.

This. We won't be leaving without Afghan security forces being well up to the task.
Which, they kinda already are.
It's like Vietnamization, except done right.

[Herador]

This. We won't be leaving without Afghan security forces being well up to the task.
Which, they kinda already are.
It's like Vietnamization, except done right.

I dunno, you should check out "This is what winning looks like." I won't argue that it isn't biased as all hell, but it does seem to provide evidence that, among other things, the ANA have a few internal issues.

[San-Silvacian]

The thing is the Taliban weren't even the primary bad guys, they were one of the few groups that didn't go bugger into everyone else's shit. They were one of the more powerful warring bands that actually had some decent (though it was harsh), control in the regions they were in. We suddenly come it, claim we're good and they are the bad guys, it doesn't help were a predominantly Christian claiming nation so we then start up the old hog-wash Islam/Christianity conflict to bare. So we stirred the hornets nest. Then proceed to drop a few dozen 500lb JDAMs on it.

Its the groups like Al-Queda that fucked with the wrong people and brought down 'Murica and their trademarked Freedomizering.

What? For the record, I agree with you, but nothing you said was ever even brought up, all I said was that to

just brutally slaughter the Taliban.

would cause magnitudes of damage more than it would fix.

I more or less trying to respond to the feller who wanted to 'brutally slaughter the Taliban'

[Herador]

What? For the record, I agree with you, but nothing you said was ever even brought up, all I said was that to

would cause magnitudes of damage more than it would fix.

I more or less trying to respond to the feller who wanted to 'brutally slaughter the Taliban'

Ooooooooooooooh, I thought that was aimed at me, apologies.

[Vareiln]

This. We won't be leaving without Afghan security forces being well up to the task.
Which, they kinda already are.
It's like Vietnamization, except done right.

I dunno, you should check out "This is what winning looks like." I won't argue that it isn't biased as all hell, but it does seem to provide evidence that, among other things, the ANA have a few internal issues.

Hmm, I'll do that. Thanks.

[Pope Joan]

This is a chess move, I think. BO is playing his role for the benefit of the next Afghan President.

[The Fascist American Empire]

While I'm all for peace and bringing the troops home I am a bit concerned as it seems a great many Afghans want at least a small contingent there to continue training the Afghan military. While I'm aware of the proposed bi-lateral treaty I think that goes too far and I'm sure many in both nations agree, but I don't see anything wrong with an Iraq style situation with our troops helping train the Afghans but with the bulk of them back home and those that stay will be accountable for their actions and can be tried by the Afghan courts if they commit crimes.

Not our problem anymore.

[TheWalkingGhost]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-pentagon-to-prepare-for-complete-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/2014/02/25/cfae2206-9e49-11e3-a050-dc3322a94fa7_story.html


What they won't tell you: It's only because the President of Afghanistan /refuses/ to sign the security agreement once more. Thus, we have no other option than to get out of afghanistan.

So, I'd say an accomplishment for the President of Afghanistan, not the current sitting President of the U.S.

I don't care whose accomplishment it is (no attitude intended), just as long as we get out of there. Maybe deep military cuts will be easier now...But i might be asking too much.

[The Black Forrest]

Ohhh so that's why Cheney and Halliburton were screaming.

[Demonic Dachshunds]

I can't help but wonder if we will end up going back and then it becomes a running joke that Americas solution to everything is invade Afghanistan. (kinda like the french and surrendering)

Government logic:

The President: "My soda is flat! It must be those damn Afghans at it again! Quick, mobilize all of the carriers and B-52s we can. We are going to teach those dirty Afghanese Commies a lesson!"

[The Scientific States]

Good.

I say this without sarcasm, Thanks Obama.

[Alawiite]

SUBBANALLAH!!!!!!! TAQBIR ALLAH!!!!!! It's a victory for Peace! Victory for the Afghan Tajik Pashtun Uzbek Peoples! May Iran invade Afghanistan inshallah! النصر لله والشيعة!

[The Scientific States]

SUBBANALLAH!!!!!!! TAQBIR ALLAH!!!!!! It's a victory for Peace! Victory for the Afghan Tajik Pashtun Uzbek Peoples! May Iran invade Afghanistan inshallah!

Was this meant to be an IC post...

[Zoboyizakoplayoklot]

Good, maybe now the US will leave the poor oil-filled middle eastern countries alone and focus on their own problems.