Obama orders pentagon to prepare for afghan withdrawl

[Farnhamia]

Both of you knock it off. Terra, you dangled the bait, and Juggalo, you rose to it. Stop it.

Bait? With all due respect there was no bait. I was presenting a valid argument against Juggalo and he resorts to insults for not being able to argue against it.
I've done nothing wrong except present an argument with nothing but maturity.

"Now I assume you will now just tell me I'm a stupid liberal." That's how. You suggested the insult, which was a completely unnecessary shot at the end of an otherwise fine post.

[San-Silvacian]

It's about time. It was worse enough that we declared two unjust wars on two nations that had nothing to do with 9/11 and even worse that it lasted for over 10 years, plunged ourselves into trillions of dollars into debt, and killed thousands of innocent Afgani's and Iraqi's supposedly all in the name of demolishing a regime that was supposedly 'anti-freedom' and unlawfully killing Osama Bin Laden without giving him the right to trial by jury for capital offenses. But in reality it was for oil deals and pipelines with Saudi Arabian oil barons who had links to George W. Bush's family.

God bless America am I right?

Oh no, a conflict about economy.

Gee, those have never happened before.

[New Connorstantinople]

"Obama is a spineless liberal pussy who's surrendering to the terrorists!!!!!111"

Dammit, i myself am a patriotic center-right American who supported going in there, but its clear that its time to leave.

[Farnhamia]

"Obama is a spineless liberal pussy who's surrendering to the terrorists!!!!!111"

Dammit, i myself am a patriotic center-right American who supported going in there, but its clear that its time to leave.

I don't think he was actually serious. The 1's in the exclamation points is a dead give-away.

[Leetmerica]

"Obama is a spineless liberal pussy who's surrendering to the terrorists!!!!!111"

But you're a communist...

[New Connorstantinople]

But Iran's no match for USA + Israel?

America's number one right?

I'd say number three after China and possibly Russia. But you're right. USA and Israel equals a huge sea/crater where Iran once was…

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

Im not sure you understand how military strength works...

[New Connorstantinople]

Dammit, i myself am a patriotic center-right American who supported going in there, but its clear that its time to leave.

I don't think he was actually serious. The 1's in the exclamation points is a dead give-away.

of course not, but it was obvious who he was stereotyping...

[Chronodosia]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Too funny.

Been smoking the good hashish eh?


At the topic at hand, Well its Karzai's choice. Besides, now the US can spend a little less for operations there.

May that Swine Karzai get obliterated.

I agree cuz he is an idiot and I am a American Atheist

[Sedikal]

Finally, however this move is a double edged sword. On one hand this is ending 12 years of American participation in the region and bringing an end to the conflict for the Americans. However many say Afghanistan isn't ready to stand on its own feet and many civilians have said that troops leaving would affect their ability to do business and in turn affect the economy. Many also say we could see similar events in Afghanistan as we're seeing in Iraq. So it has it is good and it's bad but mostly bad for the Afghan people.

[The Broken Russian States]

Finally, however this move is a double edged sword. On one hand this is ending 12 years of American participation in the region and bringing an end to the conflict for the Americans. However many say Afghanistan isn't ready to stand on its own feet and many civilians have said that troops leaving would affect their ability to do business and in turn affect the economy. Many also say we could see similar events in Afghanistan as we're seeing in Iraq. So it has it is good and it's bad but mostly bad for the Afghan people.

Let the Russians have a turn.

[Bezombia]

Finally, however this move is a double edged sword. On one hand this is ending 12 years of American participation in the region and bringing an end to the conflict for the Americans. However many say Afghanistan isn't ready to stand on its own feet and many civilians have said that troops leaving would affect their ability to do business and in turn affect the economy. Many also say we could see similar events in Afghanistan as we're seeing in Iraq. So it has it is good and it's bad but mostly bad for the Afghan people.

Let the Russians have a turn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

[The Broken Russian States]

Let the Russians have a turn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

That's not the same thing. That is what made this war in the first place. Let Russia clean up their mess

[God Kefka]

Since the USA will soon be out of Afghanistan militarily (and at Afghanistan's firm insistence); Afghanistan has effectively rejected the benefits of being part of the unofficial American empire... Therefore I think it's time for America to withdraw all financial, civilian, and material aid to that Third World country too.

It just feels like justice...

[Grand Soviet Union]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan

That's not the same thing. That is what made this war in the first place. Let Russia clean up their mess

or just everyone leave Afghanistan the fuck alone and let it be the hellhole it is and will be

[The Broken Russian States]

That's not the same thing. That is what made this war in the first place. Let Russia clean up their mess

or just everyone leave Afghanistan the fuck alone and let it be the hellhole it is and will be

Last time we did that, this happened

[Grand Soviet Union]

or just everyone leave Afghanistan the fuck alone and let it be the hellhole it is and will be

Last time we did that, this happened

funny thing is most if not all the terrorist's who struck the tower's weren't from Afghanistan. At least from my understanding a number of them were Saudi. Now if you want to argue that we needed to go into Afghanistan to get Bin Laden, you can try to argue that, However I can and will counter saying it could have been done cheaper by using special forces and the CIA instead of a giant army.

[The Broken Russian States]

Last time we did that, this happened

funny thing is most if not all the terrorist's who struck the tower's weren't from Afghanistan. At least from my understanding a number of them were Saudi. Now if you want to argue that we needed to go into Afghanistan to get Bin Laden, you can try to argue that, However I can and will counter saying it could have been done cheaper by using special forces and the CIA instead of a giant army.

They were lead by a leader who was hiding in Afghanistan, under the safety of the Taliban. The invasion would be better if they had done it correctly, but thats not my place to say that. If Afghanistan wasn't so weak willed in defence, this wouldn't have happenened. I literally have not seen a nation that cared so little about its homeland.

[Grand Soviet Union]

They were lead by a leader who was hiding in Afghanistan, under the safety of the Taliban. The invasion would be better if they had done it correctly, but thats not my place to say that. If Afghanistan wasn't so weak willed in defence, this wouldn't have happenened. I literally have not seen a nation that cared so little about its homeland.

what wouldn't have happened? the occupation? Because we still have troops in nations like Germany and Italy and those nations don't appear weak to me. Now to say the Afghan's care so little about their homeland is tough to say. Because at least from my viewpoint it seems they don't want American assistance. Now is it saying thing;s would get better if we backed off? No, but why do we as America have to take care of a country of no great significance to us? we're not going to get them to ally with us, there isn't much economical or political gain. So why continue to stay when we aren't wanted and there's no plus side to us being there?

[The Broken Russian States]

They were lead by a leader who was hiding in Afghanistan, under the safety of the Taliban. The invasion would be better if they had done it correctly, but thats not my place to say that. If Afghanistan wasn't so weak willed in defence, this wouldn't have happenened. I literally have not seen a nation that cared so little about its homeland.

what wouldn't have happened? the occupation? Because we still have troops in nations like Germany and Italy and those nations don't appear weak to me. Now to say the Afghan's care so little about their homeland is tough to say. Because at least from my viewpoint it seems they don't want American assistance. Now is it saying thing;s would get better if we backed off? No, but why do we as America have to take care of a country of no great significance to us? we're not going to get them to ally with us, there isn't much economical or political gain. So why continue to stay when we aren't wanted and there's no plus side to us being there?

1: The Taliban taking over
2: Doesnt apply
3: Thanks for your lack of an opinion
4: They don't.
5: The war started because the Taliban committed an act of War.
6: You don't have to do everything for gain. They killed 3,000 innocent civies. Fuck them and their happiness, you fucked with the monster

[Chronodosia]

what wouldn't have happened? the occupation? Because we still have troops in nations like Germany and Italy and those nations don't appear weak to me. Now to say the Afghan's care so little about their homeland is tough to say. Because at least from my viewpoint it seems they don't want American assistance. Now is it saying thing;s would get better if we backed off? No, but why do we as America have to take care of a country of no great significance to us? we're not going to get them to ally with us, there isn't much economical or political gain. So why continue to stay when we aren't wanted and there's no plus side to us being there?

1: The Taliban taking over
2: Doesnt apply
3: Thanks for your lack of an opinion
4: They don't.
5: The war started because the Taliban committed an act of War.
6: You don't have to do everything for gain. They killed 3,000 innocent civies. Fuck them and their happiness, you fucked with the monster

I would have said after 9/11 just send in frickin black ops. you know the highly trained elite Military soldiers that no one is supposed to know about but everyone dose. and invasion is stupider than anything we had a war with the terrorists not frickin civies so again I say why didn't you people send in the Special Operations Soldiers, and let them kill the M*****F****R'S instead of an army that had no need to be there.

[Treneria]

I think we should stay there for a few more years.

Just kidding. Good to see this.

[The Broken Russian States]

1: The Taliban taking over
2: Doesnt apply
3: Thanks for your lack of an opinion
4: They don't.
5: The war started because the Taliban committed an act of War.
6: You don't have to do everything for gain. They killed 3,000 innocent civies. Fuck them and their happiness, you fucked with the monster

I would have said after 9/11 just send in frickin black ops. you know the highly trained elite Military soldiers that no one is supposed to know about but everyone dose. and invasion is stupider than anything we had a war with the terrorists not frickin civies so again I say why didn't you people send in the Special Operations Soldiers, and let them kill the M*****F****R'S instead of an army that had no need to be there.

Well, the problem with that is, even though we have a large amount of spec ops, like Delta Force (Which nobo-I mean everyone knows about), The Navy SEALs, and Rangers, the Rangers is actually a large force, making a large part of our Army. We sent Rangers and Green Berets, SEALs and Delta Force. We did send mostly spec ops. That's just how large we are.

[Swedish Realm]

"Obama is a spineless liberal pussy who's surrendering to the terrorists!!!!!111"

Way to look snide.

[Swedish Realm]

And of course, Sweden keeps getting peacekeeping missions there.

[Geilinor]

or just everyone leave Afghanistan the fuck alone and let it be the hellhole it is and will be

Last time we did that, this happened

We're the ones who armed future terrorists in the first place, in order to get the Soviets out of Afghanistan.