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Do you wish God is Real?

Yes
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21%
No
110
59%
Maybe
26
14%
Not sure
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6%
 
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Benuty
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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:44 pm

Dranislovinunstarijestani wrote:Christian god? Probably not. "I come to this world not to bring peace but to bring a sword."
Ramayana, however...

Didn't Jesus say that?
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Postby Organized Geth » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:45 pm

The belief among Christians is that God doesn't interfere with the bad things happening on the planet is so that every one of us has a choice weather or not to follow him. Y'know, that old "If you love something, let it go" parable... The belief is that God shows true love by giving humans free will to do as they please and wreck the earth or follow him.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:46 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:No, honestly. I like my privacy.

I wouldn't violate your privacy~
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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:47 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:No, honestly. I like my privacy.

I wouldn't violate your privacy~

Neither would the toilet security administration..well so they claim.
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Postby Vuuhn » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:47 pm

Ermarian wrote:I like the idea of an afterlife (optional, duration dependent on individual choice, no hell), but the idea of a universe controlled by an omnipotent conscious entity is ugly to contemplate.

If this entity is as evil and spiteful as basically all religions describe their deities, then the universe would be like in the Cthulhu mythos. Worse, really; the various Old Ones don't really care about humans while gods have petty human desires and vendettas, making people do things and then punishing them for it, et cetera. But regardless of whether it is good or evil, its existence and omnipotence would render pretty much everything humans do pointless. Our existence would essentially be entertainment.Not with Yahweh, He actually cares about people ( why else would Jesus the Christ die on a tree?)

Kraslavia wrote:This is contradiction. You can't want god to be real and stay atheist. Because "want god to be real" leads directly to faith. That's what's great.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:47 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:No, honestly. I like my privacy.

I wouldn't violate your privacy~

Neither would I....or would I? :twisted:

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:48 pm

West Afrika wrote:I HOPE God is real. An afterlife is also something I HOPE for.

Coming to think of it, I always hoped God was real, like my imaginary friend, but I never objectively believed in it as any fact or touchable possibility.

Guess I was never theistic.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:48 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:No, honestly. I like my privacy.

Don't worry. I'd only violate the privacy of sexy ladies. *nods*
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Postby Lithana » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:56 pm

Olthar wrote:Don't worry. I'd only violate the privacy of sexy ladies. *nods*

*nods*

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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:59 pm

Olthar wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:No, honestly. I like my privacy.

Don't worry. I'd only violate the privacy of sexy ladies. *nods*

Like those on an adorned island of mythology off the coast of Greece XD?
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Postby Czechanada » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:03 pm

No; Why do we need a god when humanity has GabeN?
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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:03 pm

Czechanada wrote:No; Why do we need a god when humanity has GabeN?

Weren't you Muslim though?
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Postby Czechanada » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:05 pm

Benuty wrote:
Czechanada wrote:No; Why do we need a god when humanity has GabeN?

Weren't you Muslim though?


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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:06 pm

Benuty wrote:
Olthar wrote:Don't worry. I'd only violate the privacy of sexy ladies. *nods*

Like those on an adorned island of mythology off the coast of Greece XD?

Crete?
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Postby Schrattal » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:08 pm

I could totally join the Church of Boccob.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:18 pm

Benuty wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:I wouldn't violate your privacy~

Neither would the toilet security administration..well so they claim.


Completely unrelated but this made me laugh out loud.
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Postby -Palaven- » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:30 pm

I am not Atheist but technically not all faiths are the same...

Am I to believe this thread refers to the Christian God?
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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:36 pm

Olthar wrote:
Benuty wrote:Like those on an adorned island of mythology off the coast of Greece XD?

Crete?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbos
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Postby Ximea » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:44 pm

-Palaven- wrote:I am not Atheist but technically not all faiths are the same...

Am I to believe this thread refers to the Christian God?

I think it refers to any hypothetical supreme being.
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Postby -Palaven- » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:47 pm

Ximea wrote:
-Palaven- wrote:I am not Atheist but technically not all faiths are the same...

Am I to believe this thread refers to the Christian God?

I think it refers to any hypothetical supreme being.

I would not want that, its too stupid, to arrogant for my taste.

My faith at least doesn't tell me not to wear certain fabrics or discriminate.
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Postby The Picti » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:42 pm

Freedom Planita 2 wrote:At first glance this topic may seem like many before it, but here is the twist? Do you WISH God is Real?
For me if given the choice I would wish he was real because He might stop all the craziness out there. Wishing for him doesn't make him real though.


Honestly wit the fuck kind of retarded question is this?? wishing a sky fairy that we don't believe in is real???? :blink: :blink:


Naw!! I can get by with science & knowing i'm responsible for my own actions, but thanks anyway.


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Am I to believe this thread refers to the Christian God?



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Postby Shaggai » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:43 pm

Kraslavia wrote:This is contradiction. You can't want god to be real and stay atheist. Because "want god to be real" leads directly to faith.

Not necessarily. If I want a million dollars, I can still recognize that I don't have a million dollars.
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Postby Ximea » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:36 pm

The Picti wrote:
Freedom Planita 2 wrote:At first glance this topic may seem like many before it, but here is the twist? Do you WISH God is Real?
For me if given the choice I would wish he was real because He might stop all the craziness out there. Wishing for him doesn't make him real though.


Honestly wit the fuck kind of retarded question is this?? wishing a sky fairy that we don't believe in is real???? :blink: :blink:
No need to be so unpleasant about it. I'm an atheist and I don't wish for the existence of any deity either, but I can understand how some people might - desire for existence after death, desire for someone who cares about their well-being in this cold and merciless universe, whatever. I also think that this question was asked with honest intentions by someone who does believe and who wants to understand more about those of us who don't, so there's no reason at all for the hostility.

Indeed, I'd say that hostility reinforces the unfortunate assumption of many religious people that we're all just angry and rebelling against their god. That assumption certainly hasn't done us any favors - especially those who reasoned our way into apostasy.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:49 pm

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