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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:17 pm

Its a Texas Thing wrote:
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Aren't gonads part of your genitals?!

Or did I make a left turn in anatomy 101?

Nah. AFAIK balls and ovaries are the gonads while penis and vagina are the genitals.


Well, I've always taken genitals to mean the entire reproductive system below the waist.

You learn something new everyday.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:17 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:Aren't gonads part of your genitals?!

Or did I make a left turn in anatomy 101?

By genitals I think they meant the shape of external genitalia.

Gonads might or might not be a part of that.

One might have a male pattern in the shape of external genitalia, but be absent of gonads, or have ovotestes or ovaries.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:18 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:Well, I've always taken genitals to mean the entire reproductive system below the waist.

You learn something new everyday.

It does mean that. But genitals is often shorthand for external genitalia. :P
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:20 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Well, I've always taken genitals to mean the entire reproductive system below the waist.

You learn something new everyday.

It does mean that. But genitals is often shorthand for external genitalia. :P


We need to replace the English language for a programming language for precision :p

I call C as the replacement of choice, less confusion :lol:
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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:21 pm

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Iron Guard wrote:The only males worthy of respect as strong ones, men of actin, virtue, honor, and action.

A real man can go through anything and tough it out. No man should ever become emotionally weak. The only time for sensitivity is during romantic quality time with your woman.

Women should not have to tough it out. They're sensitive and prone to strong emotions, and are already plagued with menstrual cycles, and after, child rearing and labor.


Right.
And have you consulted people other than histories wackiest dictators to come to this conclusion, or would it be too much trouble to talk to, say, a sociologist?

I don't need to consult anyone to live life the right way.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:22 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
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Right.
And have you consulted people other than histories wackiest dictators to come to this conclusion, or would it be too much trouble to talk to, say, a sociologist?

I don't need to consult anyone to live life the right way.


You think you're saying something, but you actually aren't. This post of yours may as well be completely blank.

Well, that's not fair. It's worth a titter at least, so maybe just a fart joke.

It's blatantly absurd, is my point.
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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:23 pm

There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:23 pm

Iron Guard wrote:There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.


Suppose I grabbed your brain and stuck it in a womans body. What would be your response?
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Postby Its a Texas Thing » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:24 pm

Iron Guard wrote:There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.

We get it. You live in a fantasy world.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:24 pm

Iron Guard wrote:There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.


Trangenders and Native Americans would like to speak with you about that.
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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:29 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Iron Guard wrote:There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.


Suppose I grabbed your brain and stuck it in a womans body. What would be your response?

My response would be death, because you fucking ripped my brains out.

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Postby Its a Texas Thing » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:30 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
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Suppose I grabbed your brain and stuck it in a womans body. What would be your response?

My response would be death, because you fucking ripped my brains out.

I disagree. We must test that. For science!
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:30 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Suppose I grabbed your brain and stuck it in a womans body. What would be your response?

My response would be death, because you fucking ripped my brains out.


Well, that's a boring response. Sure you can't just toughen up like the hard dude you keep saying you are and make it work?
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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:30 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Iron Guard wrote:There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.


Trangenders and Native Americans would like to speak with you about that.

I don't care about them. "Transgender" people are just another form of an antisocial disorder.

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Postby The New World Oceania » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:31 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:It does mean that. But genitals is often shorthand for external genitalia. :P


We need to replace the English language for a programming language for precision :p

I call C as the replacement of choice, less confusion :lol:


Derrida would like a word.

Iron Guard wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Trangenders and Native Americans would like to speak with you about that.

I don't care about them. "Transgender" people are just another form of an antisocial disorder.


Gender is a social construct. Insinuating, therefore, that a population adhering to the social construct, albeit in an alternative manner to others, is "antisocial," especially when said population declines to harm any other rational being, is a bit antisocial.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:33 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Trangenders and Native Americans would like to speak with you about that.

I don't care about them. "Transgender" people are just another form of an antisocial disorder.


:rofl:

And how do you know this?
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:36 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Iron Guard wrote:I don't care about them. "Transgender" people are just another form of an antisocial disorder.


:rofl:

And how do you know this?

Because they were born a man or a woman. The fact that they were too weak to retain that role and ruin their life by having ridiculous operations suggests they cannot deal with reality.

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Postby Othelos » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:37 pm

Iron Guard wrote:There is no such thing as gender identity. You are what you are as determined by whether or not you have a dick or a vagina. It doesn't matter what you feel like or what delusion you live by that you claim you identify yourself with. That is completely ridiculous.

You definitely haven't taken a psychology class.

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Postby Othelos » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:38 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Trangenders and Native Americans would like to speak with you about that.

I don't care about them. "Transgender" people are just another form of an antisocial disorder.

Either that, or you failed the class.

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Postby The New World Oceania » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:39 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
:rofl:

And how do you know this?

Because they were born a man or a woman. The fact that they were too weak to retain that role and ruin their life by having ridiculous operations suggests they cannot deal with reality.

They were not born male or female. They were coercively assigned a "male" or "female" label to correspond with what someone arbitrarily decided they ought to fit.

On dealing with reality, have you looked into it?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:40 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
:rofl:

And how do you know this?

Because they were born a man or a woman. The fact that they were too weak to retain that role and ruin their life by having ridiculous operations suggests they cannot deal with reality.


Heres what I don't get, why do you care?
Even if I believed all this shit, I couldn't conceivably give enough of a fuck about someone else doing something that doesn't effect me and doesn't contain non-consenting adults/kids.

So what's the problem here exactly?
Are you just so overcome with the need to help them and make sure others don't follow their lead that you berate them and call them shit?
Because you're kind of messing up if that's the case.

Why do you care.
Even if we accept all the shit you said, why does it effect you?
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Postby Its a Texas Thing » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:41 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Iron Guard wrote:Because they were born a man or a woman. The fact that they were too weak to retain that role and ruin their life by having ridiculous operations suggests they cannot deal with reality.


Heres what I don't get, why do you care?
Even if I believed all this shit, I couldn't conceivably give enough of a fuck about someone else doing something that doesn't effect me and doesn't contain non-consenting adults/kids.

So what's the problem here exactly?
Are you just so overcome with the need to help them and make sure others don't follow their lead that you berate them and call them shit?
Because you're kind of messing up if that's the case.

Why do you care.
Even if we accept all the shit you said, why does it effect you?

He's a fascist. He cares about shit that he thinks affects him in a negative way in some weird parallel universe where Hitler won WW2.
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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:42 pm

Othelos wrote:
Iron Guard wrote:I don't care about them. "Transgender" people are just another form of an antisocial disorder.

Either that, or you failed the class.

The fuck is it with you stop harassing me with that fucking bullshit I passed the damn class with a fucking A now leave me alone with the same annoying bullshit

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Postby Iron Guard » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:43 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Iron Guard wrote:Because they were born a man or a woman. The fact that they were too weak to retain that role and ruin their life by having ridiculous operations suggests they cannot deal with reality.


Heres what I don't get, why do you care?
Even if I believed all this shit, I couldn't conceivably give enough of a fuck about someone else doing something that doesn't effect me and doesn't contain non-consenting adults/kids.

So what's the problem here exactly?
Are you just so overcome with the need to help them and make sure others don't follow their lead that you berate them and call them shit?
Because you're kind of messing up if that's the case.

Why do you care.
Even if we accept all the shit you said, why does it effect you?

Because the weak members of the population inhibit the development of the new man.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:44 pm

Iron Guard wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Heres what I don't get, why do you care?
Even if I believed all this shit, I couldn't conceivably give enough of a fuck about someone else doing something that doesn't effect me and doesn't contain non-consenting adults/kids.

So what's the problem here exactly?
Are you just so overcome with the need to help them and make sure others don't follow their lead that you berate them and call them shit?
Because you're kind of messing up if that's the case.

Why do you care.
Even if we accept all the shit you said, why does it effect you?

Because the weak members of the population inhibit the development of the new man.


How? Surely it just makes it easier to spot them?
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