LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Aequalitia]

Actually, it's quite simple. Either your a hateful bigot, or you're not. There ya go.

They are people who would take it to the extreme stating that lgt's are 'demons' which I haven't. I just have a different opinion on it and I see it as 'unnatural'.

Hah so most animals in nature are also 'unnatural'?

Are bacteria's also 'unnatural' because there is no male/female contact because bacteria don't got even a gender so makes bacteria's be unnatural because there not can having a heterosexual contact?

[Hamil]

They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.

Nope. One is a sexual orientation. The other is a mental illness.

The same was said about homosexuality in the past. This is how it's hypocritical

[Geilinor]

Nope. One is a sexual orientation. The other is a mental illness.

The same was said about homosexuality in the past. This is how it's hypocritical

Who is harmed by homosexuality?

[Hamil]

They are people who would take it to the extreme stating that lgt's are 'demons' which I haven't. I just have a different opinion on it and I see it as 'unnatural'.

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

Pedophilia occurs in nature, and hence is "natural".

[MERIZoC]

Nope. One is a sexual orientation. The other is a mental illness.

The same was said about homosexuality in the past. This is how it's hypocritical

It was also said in some places that black people weren't human. Your point?

[MERIZoC]

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

Pedophilia occurs in nature, and hence is "natural".

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

[Geilinor]

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

Pedophilia occurs in nature, and hence is "natural".

Natural doesn't equal good and unnatural doesn't equal bad.

[Aequalitia]

Pedophilia occurs in nature, and hence is "natural".

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

Indeed, or does having homosexual feelings suddenly harm those fundies and bigots?

[Hamil]

Pedophilia occurs in nature, and hence is "natural".

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

But homosexuality can be harmful to humans. HIV is very common is the gay community

The same was said about homosexuality in the past. This is how it's hypocritical

It was also said in some places that black people weren't human. Your point?

Blacks are human they're just very barbaric

[Oneracon]

Rob Ford may be a crack addicted joke that's great fodder for Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel, but also he's a pretty despicable human being.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford was the only member of city council to vote against a report looking into a potential homeless shelter for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer youth in Toronto.

The shelter report recommendation passed on Thursday by a vote of 37-1. Several councillors, including the mayor's brother Doug, were absent for the vote.

The vote means that council has requested a report on the feasibility of allocating 25 per cent of shelter beds to LGBT youth in an existing shelter for the coming winter.

Alex Abramovich, a research co-ordinator with the Centre for Research on Inner City Health at St. Michael's Hospital, has spent eight years studying the issue and proposed a shelter exclusively for LGBT youth.

Coun. Kristyn Wong-Tam questioned the mayor's motivations.

She said that since there is no financial impact of the vote, there would be no reason Ford, an avowed tax fighter, to vote against it.

"It tells me he doesn't care," she said. "He's demonstrated he doesn't care."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/r ... -1.2703174

Ford is still mayor? I thought he'd have resigned already.

If only we were so lucky, not only is he not resigning but he is running for mayor again.

The upside is that he only has his 15-20% of idiots voting for him, so it looks like he'll split the vote with the other right-wingers so that Olivia Chow (centre-left) will win the election.

[United States Kingdom]

They are people who would take it to the extreme stating that lgt's are 'demons' which I haven't. I just have a different opinion on it and I see it as 'unnatural'.

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

There is nothing natural about it.

[Distruzio]

Nope. One is a sexual orientation. The other is a mental illness.

The same was said about homosexuality in the past. This is how it's hypocritical

Hypocritical? Or, perhaps, less educated?

It takes time to learn about things. Perhaps in the future pedophilia will be recognized as a legitimate orientation but, at the moment, it is not. It is a mental illness. Homosexuality no longer is.

And, in point of fact, if historical trends hold true, then it would seem that pedophilia (and the related -philias), while accepted centuries ago, will be considered a mental illness for a long long time.

[Aequalitia]

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

But homosexuality can be harmful to humans. HIV is very common is the gay community

Don't dare even to come up with that WHO rapport.

Jeez, in this times we have condoms to prevent sexual transmitting disease, and pills, and other stuff.

BEING GAY DON'T HARMS SOMEONE!

[Kaztropol]

In the 1970's, in the UK at least, the equality movement did include on the fringes, groups that represented paedophiles. They were eventually excluded. One such element was called something like the "Paedophile Information Exchange". When this became widely known, there was a backlash against equality campaigners by conservative elements in the Press and in the judiciary and legal systems.

This has been brought up in the UK press recently, to try and slander various politicians who were active in equality movements in the 1970's and 80's.
It is occasionally brought up in an attempt to equate homosexuality with paedophilia, in order to denigrate homosexuality, and people campaigning against discrimination.

[Dumb Ideologies]

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

But homosexuality can be harmful to humans. HIV is very common is the gay community

It was also said in some places that black people weren't human. Your point?

Blacks are human they're just very barbaric

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[Oneracon]

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

There is nothing natural about it.

(Both of your) logical fallacy is: Appeal to Nature

On a related note USK, do you know what else is not natural? Computers, airplanes, television, telecommunications, etc. So if you're really concerned on preserving what is natural you should probably step away from your computer and go move out to the forest.

[Edlichbury]

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

There is nothing natural about it.

And I'm certain you would know. Tell me, what degrees do you hold that makes you such an expert in human sexuality or are you just spewing nonsense for fun?

[Distruzio]

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

But homosexuality can be harmful to humans. HIV is very common is the gay community

I'm glad you realize that is so. Which is why we should take less issue with homosexuality and more issue with HIV. After all, its the HIV that's dangerous.

It was also said in some places that black people weren't human. Your point?

Blacks are human they're just very barbaric

Ah....

[Angrast]

I would like to see Taiwan (very possible), Thailand, Germany, Finland, Chile and Greenland legalize gay marriage within the next few years. Due to recent bills and public opinions, these are the most likely countries to do so, just research it.

[Neutraligon]

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

There is nothing natural about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuK9pxj ... k&index=25 I suggest this, it's hilarious.

[Geilinor]

That's true. That doesn't change the fact that it's a mental illness that's harmful to children.

But homosexuality can be harmful to humans. HIV is very common is the gay community

Using protection can prevent the spread of HIV, so there's no problem.

[Aequalitia]

I would like to see Taiwan (very possible), Thailand, Germany, Finland, Chile and Greenland legalize gay marriage within the next few years. Due to recent bills and public opinions, these are the most likely countries to do so, just research it.

Greenland gay marriage....hmmm, marriage in a freezer

Anyway now serious, do you know gay marriage isn't a wondertool to fix suddenly all LGBT problems?

[Hamil]

But homosexuality can be harmful to humans. HIV is very common is the gay community

Using protection can prevent the spread of HIV, so there's no problem.

Just because condoms are available doesn't mean these people will use them. If they did use condoms then the infection rate among them wouldn't be so high

[Geilinor]

Using protection can prevent the spread of HIV, so there's no problem.

Just because condoms are available doesn't mean these people will use them. If they did use condoms then the infection rate among them wouldn't be so high

HIV is the problem, not homosexuality in itself.

[Aequalitia]

Using protection can prevent the spread of HIV, so there's no problem.

Just because condoms are available doesn't mean these people will use them. If they did use condoms then the infection rate among them wouldn't be so high

Almost all straight males don't use condoms also...