LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Olivaero]

Here's a question for the Bisexual peeps of NSG (of which I m one) I personally call myself Bi as a an easier and hassle free way of saying Pan, is there anyone out there who is specifically bisexual and NOT pansexual? For anyone confused as to what pansexual means, basically you can attracted to any combination of sexual characteristics or gender identity, so someone who is bi and NOT pan would be attracted to people who are Male or female but not some one who is say transitioning or someone who's androgynous.

I ask because personally I've never met anyone who is one and not the other, including myself. So, for my own curiosity are you? Or maybe do you know someone who has gone out of their way to say they are one and not the other?

Not one myself, but by that description, isn't bi- (and everything else pertaining to humans I guess) just a subset of pan-?

What do you mean?

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Why do we not just Accept that some just wish to be with the same sex and others against?

Because (a loud minority of) the ones that are against keep trying to push their bullshit on those that do wish to be with the same sex.

A over 40% minority

[Salandriagado]

Because (a loud minority of) the ones that are against keep trying to push their bullshit on those that do wish to be with the same sex.

A over 40% minority

Sadly, yes. It is shrinking, though.

I hope that when I have kids and they grow up, things won't still be this way. Where can people can be who they without having to be labled or meet other's expectations.

Live and let live.

When the day comes that I can say 'I'm a heterosexual' and people will ask 'what's that, then?', I will be a happier man. Because everyone is a bisexual in some way or another. Some have a more expressed taste. Oh, when doth come the day...

I'm not.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

A over 40% minority

Sadly, yes. It is shrinking, though.

I was trying to make a reference to Cosara.

Though tis true. And hopefully it'll become non-existent in ideological practices.

[Salandriagado]

Sadly, yes. It is shrinking, though.

I was trying to make a reference to Cosara.

Though tis true. And hopefully it'll become non-existent in ideological practices.

Ah, I'd forgotten I had that in my sig.

[Amerieka]

See my post got locked. Thanks for the hijack again.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

See my post got locked. Thanks for the hijack again.

Wut.

[Roski]

See my post got locked. Thanks for the hijack again.

Its time for the american people to stand up to the oppression of the striaght white christian male!

[Sun Wukong]

See my post got locked. Thanks for the hijack again.

You're welcome. Now do you have anything to actually say, or are you just going to self-pity endlessly? Again.

[Whittington]

See my post got locked. Thanks for the hijack again.

You started a thread, and left after only two post.

Even a mod pointed that out.

[Ardoki]

Here's a question for the Bisexual peeps of NSG (of which I m one) I personally call myself Bi as a an easier and hassle free way of saying Pan, is there anyone out there who is specifically bisexual and NOT pansexual? For anyone confused as to what pansexual means, basically you can attracted to any combination of sexual characteristics or gender identity, so someone who is bi and NOT pan would be attracted to people who are Male or female but not some one who is say transitioning or someone who's androgynous.

I ask because personally I've never met anyone who is one and not the other, including myself. So, for my own curiosity are you? Or maybe do you know someone who has gone out of their way to say they are one and not the other?

Me. *raises hand*

I'm sexually attracted to both males and females. That does not include transgender people, I'm not attracted to them.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Here's a question for the Bisexual peeps of NSG (of which I m one) I personally call myself Bi as a an easier and hassle free way of saying Pan, is there anyone out there who is specifically bisexual and NOT pansexual? For anyone confused as to what pansexual means, basically you can attracted to any combination of sexual characteristics or gender identity, so someone who is bi and NOT pan would be attracted to people who are Male or female but not some one who is say transitioning or someone who's androgynous.

I ask because personally I've never met anyone who is one and not the other, including myself. So, for my own curiosity are you? Or maybe do you know someone who has gone out of their way to say they are one and not the other?

Me. *raises hand*

I'm sexually attracted to both males and females. That does not include transgender people, I'm not attracted to them.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that. Do you mean sex or gender wise?

[Olivaero]

Here's a question for the Bisexual peeps of NSG (of which I m one) I personally call myself Bi as a an easier and hassle free way of saying Pan, is there anyone out there who is specifically bisexual and NOT pansexual? For anyone confused as to what pansexual means, basically you can attracted to any combination of sexual characteristics or gender identity, so someone who is bi and NOT pan would be attracted to people who are Male or female but not some one who is say transitioning or someone who's androgynous.

I ask because personally I've never met anyone who is one and not the other, including myself. So, for my own curiosity are you? Or maybe do you know someone who has gone out of their way to say they are one and not the other?

Me. *raises hand*

I'm sexually attracted to both males and females. That does not include transgender people, I'm not attracted to them.

Okay, as a follow up question, what turns you off about them?

[Ardoki]

Me. *raises hand*

I'm sexually attracted to both males and females. That does not include transgender people, I'm not attracted to them.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that. Do you mean sex or gender wise?

Me. *raises hand*

I'm sexually attracted to both males and females. That does not include transgender people, I'm not attracted to them.

Okay, as a follow up question, what turns you off about them?

I should have been more clear on the gender specifics.

I'm sexually attracted to males and females. I guess I am put of by transgender individuals, I don't know whether it is just subconscious intolerance of on my part or I'm just not sexually attracted to them.

[Nature-Spirits]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that. Do you mean sex or gender wise?

Okay, as a follow up question, what turns you off about them?

I should have been more clear on the gender specifics.

I'm sexually attracted to males and females. I guess I am put of by transgender individuals, I don't know whether it is just subconscious intolerance of on my part or I'm just not sexually attracted to them.

You didn't really clear anything up, to be honest, aside from the fact that you're not attracted to non-binary people. Trans men and trans women are still men and women; they're not some other type of gender.

[Ardoki]

I should have been more clear on the gender specifics.

I'm sexually attracted to males and females. I guess I am put of by transgender individuals, I don't know whether it is just subconscious intolerance of on my part or I'm just not sexually attracted to them.

You didn't really clear anything up, to be honest, aside from the fact that you're not attracted to non-binary people. Trans men and trans women are still men and women; they're not some other type of gender.

It's just if they had undergone gender-reassignment, or were cross-dressing, I can get confused and become not attracted to them.

[Neutraligon]

You didn't really clear anything up, to be honest, aside from the fact that you're not attracted to non-binary people. Trans men and trans women are still men and women; they're not some other type of gender.

It's just if they had undergone gender-reassignment, or were cross-dressing, I can get confused and become not attracted to them.

How do you get confused?

[Nazi Flower Power]

Here's a question for the Bisexual peeps of NSG (of which I m one) I personally call myself Bi as a an easier and hassle free way of saying Pan, is there anyone out there who is specifically bisexual and NOT pansexual? For anyone confused as to what pansexual means, basically you can attracted to any combination of sexual characteristics or gender identity, so someone who is bi and NOT pan would be attracted to people who are Male or female but not some one who is say transitioning or someone who's androgynous.

I ask because personally I've never met anyone who is one and not the other, including myself. So, for my own curiosity are you? Or maybe do you know someone who has gone out of their way to say they are one and not the other?

I am not completely pansexual, but my tastes cover a broader range than the strictest definition of "bi." I've never seen an FtM transsexual that I thought was attractive, but have been attracted to people in pretty much any other sex/gender category.

Personally, I identify as "bi" and I think "bi" can be applied to anyone that is attracted to more than one gender, regardless of whether it is only the binary genders or if it covers a wider range. I don't see the need to have separate words for bi and pan. Some people get really into the vocabulary, though. Not sure why.

A question I thought of while typing this: Is there a word for preferring androgynous people over either of the binary genders?

[Nature-Spirits]

You didn't really clear anything up, to be honest, aside from the fact that you're not attracted to non-binary people. Trans men and trans women are still men and women; they're not some other type of gender.

It's just if they had undergone gender-reassignment, or were cross-dressing, I can get confused and become not attracted to them.

I'm not sure what you mean.

By "gender-reassignment", are you referring to SRS? If so, what kind of SRS?

What do you mean by cross-dressing?

[Nature-Spirits]

A question I thought of while typing this: Is there a word for preferring androgynous people over either of the binary genders?

"Skoliosexual". I don't know anyone who identifies that way, though.

[Ardoki]

It's just if they had undergone gender-reassignment, or were cross-dressing, I can get confused and become not attracted to them.

I'm not sure what you mean.

By "gender-reassignment", are you referring to SRS? If so, what kind of SRS?

What do you mean by cross-dressing?

If one gender dressed up as the other gender, I am put off.

No offence intended to those who do, I don't think less of them as people, I'm just not attracted to them.

[Nazi Flower Power]

See my post got locked. Thanks for the hijack again.

Write a better OP next time. I couldn't even figure out what you were trying to ask in your third discussion point.

[Nature-Spirits]

I'm not sure what you mean.

By "gender-reassignment", are you referring to SRS? If so, what kind of SRS?

What do you mean by cross-dressing?

If one gender dressed up as the other gender, I am put off.

No offence intended to those who do, I don't think less of them as people, I'm just not attracted to them.

No, I mean, I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to by "dress[ing] up as the other gender". If a trans man dresses up in "masculine" clothes, he is not cross-dressing; if a trans woman dresses up in "feminine" clothes, she is not cross-dressing.

[Pope Joan]

I'm not sure what you mean.

By "gender-reassignment", are you referring to SRS? If so, what kind of SRS?

What do you mean by cross-dressing?

If one gender dressed up as the other gender, I am put off.

No offence intended to those who do, I don't think less of them as people, I'm just not attracted to them.

This begins to seem as though we judge people based upon where they shop for their styles?

[Ardoki]

If one gender dressed up as the other gender, I am put off.

No offence intended to those who do, I don't think less of them as people, I'm just not attracted to them.

No, I mean, I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to by "dress[ing] up as the other gender". If a trans man dresses up in "masculine" clothes, he is not cross-dressing; if a trans woman dresses up in "feminine" clothes, she is not cross-dressing.

Sorry, I forgot how gender is fluid (unlike sex).

I meant sex.