LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Land of Germany]

Honestly, though, I don't see why you should expect people's respect when you don't respect them in the first place. Saying, "I don't think you guys should be allowed to get married but you totes have to respect my bisexuality" sounds like bullshit, to be quite frank.

I don't want or need to be respected. Even though I don't agree with gay marriage, I do not harass gays because of it.

What's there to "agree" to about gay marriage? You're not involved in gay marriage. You don't have any dotted line to sign so your consent is not required. Why do two dudes getting hitched have anything to do with your agreement?

Being less about the semantics of your beliefs, why don't you believe gay people should be able to get married?

[Ardoki]

I don't want or need to be respected. Even though I don't agree with gay marriage, I do not harass gays because of it.

What's there to "agree" to about gay marriage? You're not involved in gay marriage. You don't have any dotted line to sign so your consent is not required. Why do two dudes getting hitched have anything to do with your agreement?

Being less about the semantics of your beliefs, why don't you believe gay people should be able to get married?

His signature says he supports christianity, so his reason is probably biblical.

[Threlizdun]

Honestly, though, I don't see why you should expect people's respect when you don't respect them in the first place. Saying, "I don't think you guys should be allowed to get married but you totes have to respect my bisexuality" sounds like bullshit, to be quite frank.

I don't want or need to be respected. Even though I don't agree with gay marriage, I do not harass gays because of it.

You just generalized all homosexual people as being whiney. You clearly hold bigoted views and express them without concern for the feelings of others. I can hardly see how that isn't harassment.

[Myrensis]

Well, apparently, he's bisexual, but (according to his sig) anti- "Multiculturalism, LGBT Movement, Gay Marriage, Transgenderism... Liberals, Social Justice, [and] Feminism". He either has some sort of inferiority complex, is insecure in his sexual orientation, or both.

And someone being bisexual who is against Multiculturalism, LGBT Movement, Gay Marriage, Transgenderism, Liberals, Social Justice and Feminism obviously has an inferiority complex because he doesn't like to get grouped up with whiney entitled gays?

Well, you acknowledge being bisexual, but 'disagree' that you deserve the same rights as anyone else. Kind of classic inferiority complex.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Yolo

Actually? Yeah.

If all people who openly identified as LGBT+ moved to some place away from the cishet scum, they could live happily without any discrimination.

That's enough of that unpleasantness there ... *** Warned for flamebait/trolling ***

[New Frenco Empire]

Well, apparently, he's bisexual, but (according to his sig) anti- "Multiculturalism, LGBT Movement, Gay Marriage, Transgenderism... Liberals, Social Justice, [and] Feminism". He either has some sort of inferiority complex, is insecure in his sexual orientation, or both.

And someone being bisexual who is against Multiculturalism, LGBT Movement, Gay Marriage, Transgenderism, Liberals, Social Justice and Feminism obviously has an inferiority complex because he doesn't like to get grouped up with whiney entitled gays?

You don't have to be "whiney" to support gay marriage, trans rights, liberal thought or multiculturalism. Just because you had a bad time on Tumblr doesn't mean that those particular points are any less valid.

[United Socialist Republic of Restonia]

Honestly, though, I don't see why you should expect people's respect when you don't respect them in the first place. Saying, "I don't think you guys should be allowed to get married but you totes have to respect my bisexuality" sounds like bullshit, to be quite frank.

I don't want or need to be respected. Even though I don't agree with gay marriage, I do not harass gays because of it.

Nature-Spirits has it spot on here.


Zaereas, you not wanting / needing / caring weather or not you are respected, is an entirely personal choice. I do not know, nor do I care that, you "disagree" with, seemingly "equality" on a whole, but that seems very suspect to me. You yourself state you are of a minority group since you freely admit you are bisexual. So would you accept any / all oppression heaped upon you because of your bisxexuality? Or, would you attempt to hide who you truly are? I"m just curious because bi/homo/trans/pan/poly, are not really mutually exclusive when it comes to equality, and I highly doubt that oppression / any given oppressor, is going to differentiate between these. I would ask why you are against equality for some (or perhaps all) but I'm a bit afraid of what you answer might be.

Assuming from what little that I have read / know about you to this point, you identify as fascist? No? If so, I can see how that would make sense with your stance, but, that also completely and totally contradicts the person you say that you actually are, which is a bisexual person. Now, I can fully understand some bisexuals / homosexuals / queer / lesbians, whatever you'd care to call it, that are so far in the closet from being conditioned to hate who they themselves truly are (as with may who are vehement haters of said differing sexual orientations, actually are such), but you yourself are open about and accept the fact that you were born bisexual. This seems completely illogical to me.

Why do you (or anyone else) even care who I, or anyone else fucks in the privacy of our own homes so long as it is other consenting adults?

[Desperate Measures]

So, Planet Fitness is awesome

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/03/07/gy ... -customer/

[United Socialist Republic of Restonia]

So, Planet Fitness is awesome

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/03/07/gy ... -customer/

Very good for planet fitness. I'm fine with someone having concerns, and I don't think I would deny that there may be some men out there who might actually claim transgender and present as a woman, just to sneak a peek. However I believe there are also ways around that particular issue. Why not have someone that identifies as the opposite gender from which they were born, present a letter from a physician and / or psychologist, as proof that they actually do identify as such? That seems that it would be a fair way to go about addressing that particular issue as I doubt anyone that just wants to sneak a peek would go to those lengths just do so. I could be wrong, but that is just how I see it personally.

Voicing a concern is one thing, however if this woman did in fact do so in a manner that caused problems for other members, and she did go about it in a less than tasteful and offencive way, well, then yes, ban her. After all, she should have read the policies of her membership contract when she signed up. I'm not for banning someone just because they dislike something / do not approve of something, but really, if it was that much of an issue for her, I'm sure she could find an other place to work out that is more suitable and in line with her personal views.

[United Russian Soviet States]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

Point me to where Walt's grave is so I can ask him this question

[Zunkwentania]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

Walt is quite dead.

[United Russian Soviet States]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

Point me to where Walt's grave is so I can ask him this question

He is ice now. He would hate the modern company with its liberal agenda.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Point me to where Walt's grave is so I can ask him this question

He is ice now. He would hate the modern company with its liberal agenda.

Walt Disney was cremated.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

Yeah, and he was an antisemite too. The US was founded by slave owning elitists, Volkswagen was founded by the NSDAP party, and I don't even want to talk about NASA. Times change. People change. We should not cling to beliefs of people in the past just because they were in some way influential.

[Oneracon]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

By your logic, Fusajiro Yamauchi would be shocked that the small trading card company he founded in 1889 is now the world's most valuable producer of some sort of electrical moving picture amusement.

Society changes and companies change with them.

[Whittington]

I've always loved getting a gift in a little blue box from my husband, but even more now since Tiffany&Co. has started this new ad campaign in favor of same-sex marriages. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-a-first-tiffany-uses-a-gay-couple-in-a-wedding-ad/

I found this quote from the article to be quite true. "Gay weddings are also forecast to blossom into big business."

I got married lost August, had around 500 people at my wedding, so it was quite expensive. Being a military wedding, it wasn't too flashy or over the top, got married under a giant oak tree, had reception in a rustic barn. My friends described it as "rustic chic". I get that some people see "gay weddings" to be over the top but that's not my style. I wanted something a bit more refined and for lack of better words, "manly" (no offense to anybody). It was a really fun wedding, everyone had a great time and I'm lucky enough to have parents who could give me and my husband such a beautiful day.

Never in a million years did I ever think I'd get married or be honest with myself and allow myself such happiness. I'm glad I did eventually come out of the closet, took some time, but everything happened the way it was suppose to and here I am now, happily married and living a wonderful life.

There's one thing I don't really like about "gay marriage". I don't like that it's called that. I mean yes, I did marry another man, so I see why it is labeled that way. But on August 17th,2014 I got married that day, not "gay married."

Just like how this morning I had pancakes for lunch, not "gay pancakes".

Or how I parked my truck this morning, not "gay parked" it.

I have a marriage certificate, not a "gay marriage" certificate.

I hope some of you can see what I'm getting at with this. I don't want "gay" to be my only identity. Yes, I'm a gay man, but there's much more to me than just that.

[Sun Wukong]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

Indeed. Similarly Mitsubishi should be ashamed that none of it's products are being used to bomb the Chinese or Americans.

[Benuty]

The Walt Disney Company supports gay marriage:http://www.webpronews.com/marriage-equality-is-good-for-business-facebook-apple-google-and-more-tell-supreme-court-2015-03 Walt would be shocked about what his company is doing.

Indeed. Similarly Mitsubishi should be ashamed that none of it's products are being used to bomb the Chinese or Americans.

That is Toyota's job now.

[Oneracon]

I've always loved getting a gift in a little blue box from my husband, but even more now since Tiffany&Co. has started this new ad campaign in favor of same-sex marriages. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/in-a-first-tiffany-uses-a-gay-couple-in-a-wedding-ad/

I found this quote from the article to be quite true. "Gay weddings are also forecast to blossom into big business."

I got married lost August, had around 500 people at my wedding, so it was quite expensive. Being a military wedding, it wasn't too flashy or over the top, got married under a giant oak tree, had reception in a rustic barn. My friends described it as "rustic chic". I get that some people see "gay weddings" to be over the top but that's not my style. I wanted something a bit more refined and for lack of better words, "manly" (no offense to anybody). It was a really fun wedding, everyone had a great time and I'm lucky enough to have parents who could give me and my husband such a beautiful day.

Never in a million years did I ever think I'd get married or be honest with myself and allow myself such happiness. I'm glad I did eventually come out of the closet, took some time, but everything happened the way it was suppose to and here I am now, happily married and living a wonderful life.

That sounds like it was a wonderful day. I've personally always thought that weddings should be a reflection of the couple's personalities and relationship, and it sounds like you and your husband got exactly what you wanted.

My boyfriend and I already have come to a decision to have a simple outdoor ceremony in one of the conservation areas north of Toronto. Most of the money would be spent on offsetting travel expenses for his friends and family (he's British and I'm Canadian), and the wedding will be super environmentally-friendly (local food, fair trade, etc.) because I'm an environmentalist.

There's one thing I don't really like about "gay marriage". I don't like that it's called that. I mean yes, I did marry another man, so I see why it is labeled that way. But on August 17th,2014 I got married that day, not "gay married."

Just like how this morning I had pancakes for lunch, not "gay pancakes".

Or how I parked my truck this morning, not "gay parked" it.

I have a marriage certificate, not a "gay marriage" certificate.

I hope some of you can see what I'm getting at with this. I don't want "gay" to be my only identity. Yes, I'm a gay man, but there's much more to me than just that.

The important thing is that all aspects of identity should be embraced, never minimized, as opportunities for new experiences.

[Whittington]

That sounds like it was a wonderful day. I've personally always thought that weddings should be a reflection of the couple's personalities and relationship, and it sounds like you and your husband got exactly what you wanted.

My boyfriend and I already have come to a decision to have a simple outdoor ceremony in one of the conservation areas north of Toronto. Most of the money would be spent on offsetting travel expenses for his friends and family (he's British and I'm Canadian), and the wedding will be super environmentally-friendly (local food, fair trade, etc.) because I'm an environmentalist.

It was! We we're very happy with how it turned out. I agree with what you said, the wedding should reflect the couple. You're sounds really awesome. I lvoed having an outdoor wedding. It being August in California I had a fear of it being hotter than hell, but luckily it was 82 degrees with a breeze

The important thing is that all aspects of identity should be embraced, never minimized, as opportunities for new experiences.

I totally agree. With my point, I'm not minimizing the fact that I'm gay, I just don''t like how everything I do, has gay added to it. Like a lot of my buddies say I'm their "gay friend" or I get introduced as "my gay buddy" etc etc etc. Sometimes it can be a bit much. I know my friends don't mean anything bad by it and it's really not that big of a deal, but it just irks me sometimes ha

[Oneracon]

The important thing is that all aspects of identity should be embraced, never minimized, as opportunities for new experiences.

I totally agree. With my point, I'm not minimizing the fact that I'm gay, I just don''t like how everything I do, has gay added to it. Like a lot of my buddies say I'm their "gay friend" or I get introduced as "my gay buddy" etc etc etc. Sometimes it can be a bit much. I know my friends don't mean anything bad by it and it's really not that big of a deal, but it just irks me sometimes ha

Yeah that's a pretty common issue. :v

It can sometimes be the flipside of the "gay best friend" accessory syndrome that I noticed in a lot of my high school friendships with straight girls (pre-coming out). Honestly, I think that was the reason that I delayed my coming out until the last day of Grade 12.

[Herrebrugh]

I totally agree. With my point, I'm not minimizing the fact that I'm gay, I just don''t like how everything I do, has gay added to it. Like a lot of my buddies say I'm their "gay friend" or I get introduced as "my gay buddy" etc etc etc. Sometimes it can be a bit much. I know my friends don't mean anything bad by it and it's really not that big of a deal, but it just irks me sometimes ha

Yeah that's a pretty common issue. :v

It can sometimes be the flipside of the "gay best friend" accessory syndrome that I noticed in a lot of my high school friendships with straight girls (pre-coming out). Honestly, I think that was the reason that I delayed my coming out until the last day of Grade 12.

Oh my God, we should, like, totally go out shopping or something!

[Whittington]

Yeah that's a pretty common issue. :v

It can sometimes be the flipside of the "gay best friend" accessory syndrome that I noticed in a lot of my high school friendships with straight girls (pre-coming out). Honestly, I think that was the reason that I delayed my coming out until the last day of Grade 12.

Totally get it.

That terrible movie, "G.B.F" when that came out, I was like......really?

My husband found it on Netflix and put it on just to see what was it about. We turned off like 10 minutes in.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Yeah that's a pretty common issue. :v

It can sometimes be the flipside of the "gay best friend" accessory syndrome that I noticed in a lot of my high school friendships with straight girls (pre-coming out). Honestly, I think that was the reason that I delayed my coming out until the last day of Grade 12.

Totally get it.

That terrible movie, "G.B.F" when that came out, I was like......really?

My husband found it on Netflix and put it on just to see what was it about. We turned off like 10 minutes in.

The real acronym seems to treat best friends as accessories when used right