LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Its a Texas Thing]

I would.

Its my fucking kid after all.

Same.

Seconded.

[Ostroeuropa]

The importance people give to dating and gender roles when it comes to our functioning in them is also contaminated by the society we are immersed.

What is wrong with you?

It has nothing to so with society. It's what we prefer.

I prefer blonde white women, I prefer to open doors for women, I prefer to be gentle with women, I prefer to treat my woman better than anyone else.

Man, you're really trying to make a whole lot of stuff out of nothing.

Stop trying to define the fucking universe and live in it fir once

I prefer pale looking people because it contrasts with my typical fashion sense. Still dated darker toned persons before though.

You prefer to open doors for women? Why?

You prefer to be gentle with women? Why?

As for treating your woman better than anyone else, ehhhh that's fine, but would you think it weird for a guy to be treated that way by his partner?

[Its a Texas Thing]

The importance people give to dating and gender roles when it comes to our functioning in them is also contaminated by the society we are immersed.

What is wrong with you?

It has nothing to so with society. It's what we prefer.

I prefer blonde white women, I prefer to open doors for women, I prefer to be gentle with women, I prefer to treat my woman better than anyone else.

Man, you're really trying to make a whole lot of stuff out of nothing.

Stop trying to define the fucking universe and live in it fir once

Says the guy who has trouble living here with gender and sexual minorities.

[Megali Helles]

I do. And youre, quite literally, wrong.

Fascism elevates the entire nation as a singular organism personified by the State. All race, sex, gender, amd religious differences, necessarily, become subordinate. Thus the transgendered and homosexual is a REQUIRED part of the whole. Their particular variation from the cultural norm is moot and ireelevant to fascist ideology. They are part of the organism. The organism that both sustains them and is sustained by them.

To alienate a part of the organism based on personal preference is to foolishly insist the pancreas is more important than the kidney.

Fascism is syncretic and inclusive. Exclusivity is a perversion of fascism.

*Transgender

It's a qualifier, not a characteristic acquired in a given event

No idea of what to make about anti-transphobic fascism, though?

Its called consistency, my friend. Even a cursory reading of the progenitors of fascist thought reveals how utterly repulsive alienating a part of the nation is.

[Rocopurr]

I would.

Its my fucking kid after all.

Same.

I'd take an intersex child over someone who considers intersex people disgusting any day.

[The balkens]

Same.

I'd take an intersex child over someone who considers intersex people disgusting any day.

Muh Child.

[Iron Guard]

You clearly don't understand fascism.

I do. And youre, quite literally, wrong.

Fascism elevates the entire nation as a singular organism personified by the State. All race, sex, gender, amd religious differences, necessarily, become subordinate. Thus the transgendered and homosexual is a REQUIRED part of the whole. Their particular variation from the cultural norm is moot and ireelevant to fascist ideology. They are part of the organism. The organism that both sustains them and is sustained by them.

To alienate a part of the organism based on personal preference is to foolishly insist the pancreas is more important than the kidney.

Fascism is syncretic and inclusive. Exclusivity is a perversion of fascism.

Ah, too bad you don't know anything about fascism. Particularly the New man.
Fascists aimed to transform the ordinary man into the “new man,” a “virile” being who would put decadent bourgeoisie, cerebral Marxists, and “feminine” liberals to shame. The new man would be physically strong and morally “hard,” admiring what was forceful and vigorous and despising everything “weak” and “soft.” As Hitler described him, the new man was “slim and slender, quick like a greyhound, tough like leather, and hard like Krupp steel.” The new man was a man of the past as well as the future. Italian fascists held up the soldiers of ancient Rome as models, and Bertrand de Jouvenel praised the “brutal barons” of the Middle Ages and the original conquerors of Europe, the Franks. “Fascist man,” he wrote, was “a throwback to the warrior and property holder of yesteryear, to the type of man who was the head of a family and a clan: When this type of man ceases to win esteem and disappears, then the process of decadence begins.”

Drieu La Rochelle believed Hitlerian man to be superior to Democratic man, Marxist man, and Liberal man. “The Hitlerian,” he wrote, “is a type who rejects culture, who stands firm in the middle of sexual and alcoholic depravity and who dreams of bringing to the world a physical discipline with radical effects.” The new man was also a Darwinian “realist” who was contemptuous of “delicate” souls who refused to employ harsh military or political measures when they were required.

[Ostroeuropa]

I do. And youre, quite literally, wrong.

Fascism elevates the entire nation as a singular organism personified by the State. All race, sex, gender, amd religious differences, necessarily, become subordinate. Thus the transgendered and homosexual is a REQUIRED part of the whole. Their particular variation from the cultural norm is moot and ireelevant to fascist ideology. They are part of the organism. The organism that both sustains them and is sustained by them.

To alienate a part of the organism based on personal preference is to foolishly insist the pancreas is more important than the kidney.

Fascism is syncretic and inclusive. Exclusivity is a perversion of fascism.

Ah, too bad you don't know anything about fascism. Particularly the New man.
Fascists aimed to transform the ordinary man into the “new man,” a “virile” being who would put decadent bourgeoisie, cerebral Marxists, and “feminine” liberals to shame. The new man would be physically strong and morally “hard,” admiring what was forceful and vigorous and despising everything “weak” and “soft.” As Hitler described him, the new man was “slim and slender, quick like a greyhound, tough like leather, and hard like Krupp steel.” The new man was a man of the past as well as the future. Italian fascists held up the soldiers of ancient Rome as models, and Bertrand de Jouvenel praised the “brutal barons” of the Middle Ages and the original conquerors of Europe, the Franks. “Fascist man,” he wrote, was “a throwback to the warrior and property holder of yesteryear, to the type of man who was the head of a family and a clan: When this type of man ceases to win esteem and disappears, then the process of decadence begins.”

Drieu La Rochelle believed Hitlerian man to be superior to Democratic man, Marxist man, and Liberal man. “The Hitlerian,” he wrote, “is a type who rejects culture, who stands firm in the middle of sexual and alcoholic depravity and who dreams of bringing to the world a physical discipline with radical effects.” The new man was also a Darwinian “realist” who was contemptuous of “delicate” souls who refused to employ harsh military or political measures when they were required.

So basically you're in a bit of a masculine crisis at the moment and became a fascist to sort it out.
Ok.
What, exactly, would be so bad about being feminine?

Did someone tell you to man up or something?

You wanna be a tough guy. Ok. But just being a tough guy for the sake of it is kind of one-dimensional. You should read Worm. (I'm serious.)
It may well upend your notions of toughness and such.
http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/1-1/


(Nothing to do with me plugging the book at every opportunity, I swear.)

[WestRedMaple]

Same.

I'd take an intersex child over someone who considers intersex people disgusting any day.

Agreed. Frankly, I find the view of only valuing children if they are of a certain sex to be extremely disgusting.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I would argue against him, but I won't defend one kind of fascism over the other, so I will leave this for Dis.

[Iron Guard]

What is wrong with you?

It has nothing to so with society. It's what we prefer.

I prefer blonde white women, I prefer to open doors for women, I prefer to be gentle with women, I prefer to treat my woman better than anyone else.

Man, you're really trying to make a whole lot of stuff out of nothing.

Stop trying to define the fucking universe and live in it fir once

I prefer pale looking people because it contrasts with my typical fashion sense. Still dated darker toned persons before though.

You prefer to open doors for women? Why?

You prefer to be gentle with women? Why?

As for treating your woman better than anyone else, ehhhh that's fine, but would you think it weird for a guy to be treated that way by his partner?

I prefer to open doors for women because it's a sign of respect. Besides the fact that they have to deal with the sane horrible thing every month, opening he door is a small deserved courtesy.

I prefer o be gentle with women because they're already going through enough physically and hormonely.

A man is supposed to tough it out. Deal with it. Too bad if life isn't going your way, no one needs to be gentle with a man. If he's weak he doesn't deserve to live.

And no. My woman treats me better than she does everyone else because we belong to each other.

[Its a Texas Thing]

I do. And youre, quite literally, wrong.

Fascism elevates the entire nation as a singular organism personified by the State. All race, sex, gender, amd religious differences, necessarily, become subordinate. Thus the transgendered and homosexual is a REQUIRED part of the whole. Their particular variation from the cultural norm is moot and ireelevant to fascist ideology. They are part of the organism. The organism that both sustains them and is sustained by them.

To alienate a part of the organism based on personal preference is to foolishly insist the pancreas is more important than the kidney.

Fascism is syncretic and inclusive. Exclusivity is a perversion of fascism.

Ah, too bad you don't know anything about fascism. Particularly the New man.
Fascists aimed to transform the ordinary man into the “new man,” a “virile” being who would put decadent bourgeoisie, cerebral Marxists, and “feminine” liberals to shame. The new man would be physically strong and morally “hard,” admiring what was forceful and vigorous and despising everything “weak” and “soft.” As Hitler described him, the new man was “slim and slender, quick like a greyhound, tough like leather, and hard like Krupp steel.” The new man was a man of the past as well as the future. Italian fascists held up the soldiers of ancient Rome as models, and Bertrand de Jouvenel praised the “brutal barons” of the Middle Ages and the original conquerors of Europe, the Franks. “Fascist man,” he wrote, was “a throwback to the warrior and property holder of yesteryear, to the type of man who was the head of a family and a clan: When this type of man ceases to win esteem and disappears, then the process of decadence begins.”

Drieu La Rochelle believed Hitlerian man to be superior to Democratic man, Marxist man, and Liberal man. “The Hitlerian,” he wrote, “is a type who rejects culture, who stands firm in the middle of sexual and alcoholic depravity and who dreams of bringing to the world a physical discipline with radical effects.” The new man was also a Darwinian “realist” who was contemptuous of “delicate” souls who refused to employ harsh military or political measures when they were required.

Your new man sucks and no one wants him.

[Ostroeuropa]

I prefer pale looking people because it contrasts with my typical fashion sense. Still dated darker toned persons before though.

You prefer to open doors for women? Why?

You prefer to be gentle with women? Why?

As for treating your woman better than anyone else, ehhhh that's fine, but would you think it weird for a guy to be treated that way by his partner?

I prefer to open doors for women because it's a sign of respect. Besides the fact that they have to deal with the sane horrible thing every month, opening he door is a small deserved courtesy.

I prefer o be gentle with women because they're already going through enough physically and hormonely.

A man is supposed to tough it out. Deal with it. Too bad if life isn't going your way, no one needs to be gentle with a man. If he's weak he doesn't deserve to live.

And no. My woman treats me better than she does everyone else because we belong to each other.

So you don't think males are worthy of respect?

Don't you think men are going through enough?

Why should men tough it out, but not women?

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Your new man sucks and no one wants him.

^

Not to mention Nazism isn't the only form of fascism.

And there's nothing bad about non-heterosexuality.

And none of these qualifiers apply to trans people if, you know, you don't actually de-legitimize their gender?

[Iron Guard]

Ah, too bad you don't know anything about fascism. Particularly the New man.
Fascists aimed to transform the ordinary man into the “new man,” a “virile” being who would put decadent bourgeoisie, cerebral Marxists, and “feminine” liberals to shame. The new man would be physically strong and morally “hard,” admiring what was forceful and vigorous and despising everything “weak” and “soft.” As Hitler described him, the new man was “slim and slender, quick like a greyhound, tough like leather, and hard like Krupp steel.” The new man was a man of the past as well as the future. Italian fascists held up the soldiers of ancient Rome as models, and Bertrand de Jouvenel praised the “brutal barons” of the Middle Ages and the original conquerors of Europe, the Franks. “Fascist man,” he wrote, was “a throwback to the warrior and property holder of yesteryear, to the type of man who was the head of a family and a clan: When this type of man ceases to win esteem and disappears, then the process of decadence begins.”

Drieu La Rochelle believed Hitlerian man to be superior to Democratic man, Marxist man, and Liberal man. “The Hitlerian,” he wrote, “is a type who rejects culture, who stands firm in the middle of sexual and alcoholic depravity and who dreams of bringing to the world a physical discipline with radical effects.” The new man was also a Darwinian “realist” who was contemptuous of “delicate” souls who refused to employ harsh military or political measures when they were required.

So basically you're in a bit of a masculine crisis at the moment and became a fascist to sort it out.
Ok.
What, exactly, would be so bad about being feminine?

Did someone tell you to man up or something?

You wanna be a tough guy. Ok. But just being a tough guy for the sake of it is kind of one-dimensional. You should read Worm. (I'm serious.)
It may well upend your notions of toughness and such.
http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/1-1/


(Nothing to do with me plugging the book at every opportunity, I swear.)

I'm not in a fucking masculine crisis. I've always been this way and only recently did I realize my views were already compiled for me. I discovered fascism after the fact I knew who I was and found myself within the writings of Mussolini, Hitler, and Corneliu Cordreanu Zelea

[Conglomerate of Iron]

Anarchism is way more manly than fascism.

Fascism is just following orders like a dog. Anarchism is freedom without safety nets.

[Ostroeuropa]

So basically you're in a bit of a masculine crisis at the moment and became a fascist to sort it out.
Ok.
What, exactly, would be so bad about being feminine?

Did someone tell you to man up or something?

You wanna be a tough guy. Ok. But just being a tough guy for the sake of it is kind of one-dimensional. You should read Worm. (I'm serious.)
It may well upend your notions of toughness and such.
http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/1-1/


(Nothing to do with me plugging the book at every opportunity, I swear.)

I'm not in a fucking masculine crisis. I've always been this way and only recently did I realize my views were already compiled for me. I discovered fascism after the fact I knew who I was and found myself within the writings of Mussolini, Hitler, and Corneliu Cordreanu Zelea

So it's a perpetual masculine crisis then. Fact is, you're hell bent on being a cartoon character. It isn't healthy. Realize that men are people too and can need a leg up every now and then, and that women are capable of being independent, and maybe you won't fly off the ideological spectrum into looney toons land.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

So you don't think males are worthy of respect?

Don't you think men are going through enough?

Why should men tough it out, but not women?

Women also hate to be treated like weak little children.

Most often than not, when they aren't brainwashed about how they should be because someone taught them that this is their inherent natural role, they want to show they're as capable of stuff and as strong as men, if not more in the context.

[The New World Oceania]

I prefer pale looking people because it contrasts with my typical fashion sense. Still dated darker toned persons before though.

You prefer to open doors for women? Why?

You prefer to be gentle with women? Why?

As for treating your woman better than anyone else, ehhhh that's fine, but would you think it weird for a guy to be treated that way by his partner?

I prefer to open doors for women because it's a sign of respect. Besides the fact that they have to deal with the sane horrible thing every month, opening he door is a small deserved courtesy.

What makes it a sign of respect?

I prefer o be gentle with women because they're already going through enough physically and hormonely.

There is no individual, shared female experience.

A man is supposed to tough it out. Deal with it. Too bad if life isn't going your way, no one needs to be gentle with a man. If he's weak he doesn't deserve to live.

Why is that? Where do the concepts of "male" and "female" arise from, and why should they dictate our lives in any manner?

And no. My woman treats me better than she does everyone else because we belong to each other.

How can you be sure of either of those stipulations? And what defines ownership? How do you know she is legitimately consenting and isn't subconsciously forcing herself to per being programmed by a patriarchal society?

[Its a Texas Thing]

Anarchism is way more manly than fascism.

Fascism is just following orders like a dog. Anarchism is freedom without safety nets.

Okay okay, now now. Not really the topic at hand.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Anarchism is way more manly than fascism.

Fascism is just following orders like a dog. Anarchism is freedom without safety nets.

People also aren't in the wilderness to be exploited by the others if they are weak little prey. This is also positivist and misanthropic.

[Kelinfort]

So basically you're in a bit of a masculine crisis at the moment and became a fascist to sort it out.
Ok.
What, exactly, would be so bad about being feminine?

Did someone tell you to man up or something?

You wanna be a tough guy. Ok. But just being a tough guy for the sake of it is kind of one-dimensional. You should read Worm. (I'm serious.)
It may well upend your notions of toughness and such.
http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/1-1/


(Nothing to do with me plugging the book at every opportunity, I swear.)

I'm not in a fucking masculine crisis. I've always been this way and only recently did I realize my views were already compiled for me. I discovered fascism after the fact I knew who I was and found myself within the writings of Mussolini, Hitler, and Corneliu Cordreanu Zelea

Fantastic. You still haven't convinced me.

[Conglomerate of Iron]

Anarchism is way more manly than fascism.

Fascism is just following orders like a dog. Anarchism is freedom without safety nets.

Okay okay, now now. Not really the topic at hand.

Sorry, lol. But yeah, discrimination through the state is intolerable! Lgbt are people with equal freedoms!

[The Rich Port]

So you don't think males are worthy of respect?

Don't you think men are going through enough?

Why should men tough it out, but not women?

Women also hate to be treated like weak little children.

Most often than not, when they aren't brainwashed about how they should be because someone taught them that this is their inherent natural role, they want to show they're as capable of stuff and as strong as men, if not more in the context.

... I'm not sure how I feel about you two turning feminism into a dick/clitoral-measuring contest.

[Iron Guard]

I prefer to open doors for women because it's a sign of respect. Besides the fact that they have to deal with the sane horrible thing every month, opening he door is a small deserved courtesy.

I prefer o be gentle with women because they're already going through enough physically and hormonely.

A man is supposed to tough it out. Deal with it. Too bad if life isn't going your way, no one needs to be gentle with a man. If he's weak he doesn't deserve to live.

And no. My woman treats me better than she does everyone else because we belong to each other.

So you don't think males are worthy of respect?

Don't you think men are going through enough?

Why should men tough it out, but not women?

The only males worthy of respect as strong ones, men of actin, virtue, honor, and action.

A real man can go through anything and tough it out. No man should ever become emotionally weak. The only time for sensitivity is during romantic quality time with your woman.

Women should not have to tough it out. They're sensitive and prone to strong emotions, and are already plagued with menstrual cycles, and after, child rearing and labor.