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Postby Kiruri » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:07 am

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Shago wrote:I can't say what I really think without getting into hot water with the Mods. So I'll use my better judgment and just zip it.

you can't say what you want to say about LGBT people because stating explicitly sexual desires aren't usually allowed? ah, that's smart.

You could always just TG them if you're really, really horny ^-^
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:21 am

Kiruri wrote:
Other Thafoo wrote:you can't say what you want to say about LGBT people because stating explicitly sexual desires aren't usually allowed? ah, that's smart.

You could always just TG them if you're really, really horny ^-^

Mods would still mind it :P
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:22 am

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:Indeed.
In case you haven´t noticed, there´s only two ways of expressing yourself here :
- you´re either pro-gay,
or
- a fanatic homophobic nazi angel of death who burns homosexuals in the town square while surrounded by cheering dark hordes of anti-gay chaos.

And that's fucking cisgender privilege.

There's a lot of people who pretend to be socially liberal while being openly non-allies to transgender people!
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Postby Liriena » Mon Jul 14, 2014 8:45 am

Kaztropol wrote:http://holisticsexualhealth.tumblr.com/post/90461325829/gay-mens-sexism-and-womens-bodies-at-a-recent

I'm having a hard time taking that post seriously.
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Postby Kaztropol » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:03 am

Liriena wrote:I'm having a hard time taking that post seriously.


Why's that ?

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Postby Concord Blue Dawn » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:56 am

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Shago wrote:I can't say what I really think without getting into hot water with the Mods. So I'll use my better judgment and just zip it.

you can't say what you want to say about LGBT people because stating explicitly sexual desires aren't usually allowed? ah, that's smart.


Great one! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Postby Aequalitia » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:19 pm

Oneracon wrote:Rob Ford may be a crack addicted joke that's great fodder for Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel, but also he's a pretty despicable human being.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford was the only member of city council to vote against a report looking into a potential homeless shelter for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer youth in Toronto.

The shelter report recommendation passed on Thursday by a vote of 37-1. Several councillors, including the mayor's brother Doug, were absent for the vote.

The vote means that council has requested a report on the feasibility of allocating 25 per cent of shelter beds to LGBT youth in an existing shelter for the coming winter.

Alex Abramovich, a research co-ordinator with the Centre for Research on Inner City Health at St. Michael's Hospital, has spent eight years studying the issue and proposed a shelter exclusively for LGBT youth.

Coun. Kristyn Wong-Tam questioned the mayor's motivations.

She said that since there is no financial impact of the vote, there would be no reason Ford, an avowed tax fighter, to vote against it.

"It tells me he doesn't care," she said. "He's demonstrated he doesn't care."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/r ... -1.2703174

So and? Is this a large problem?

Sorry to say but I starting to be really pissing off with the privileges the North Americans LGBT groups/people going to have meanwhile be yelling all times that 'its so damm better on the other side of the lake' (Europa) meanwhile we not even have a concept for homeless LGBT shelters.

Much LGBT groups in the US/Canada are just great organized, who doing really something to improving the rights and the acceptation of LGBT people, who fighting against unequal laws and bad parts of society (who are improving in more states).

Meanwhile here in Europa there is a rise of right-wing views, and an unknown still but existing group of bigots going to rise. Excuse me, but there are countries in Europe even where you still can putted in jail for already support LGBT rights (like Russia).

And then I not even did started about how society become worse with this, and how young people like me are even more unacceptable towards 'weird' people. How can I even take our 'blabla gay marriage' serious if so much LGBT young people who did come out become a victim of daily bullying?

Btw @ Oneracon, this isn't an attack on you, this is just me response how much people pointing to 'Oh great rainbow utopic Europe' meanwhile that even not existing.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:25 pm

Oneracon wrote:Rob Ford may be a crack addicted joke that's great fodder for Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel, but also he's a pretty despicable human being.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford was the only member of city council to vote against a report looking into a potential homeless shelter for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer youth in Toronto.

The shelter report recommendation passed on Thursday by a vote of 37-1. Several councillors, including the mayor's brother Doug, were absent for the vote.

The vote means that council has requested a report on the feasibility of allocating 25 per cent of shelter beds to LGBT youth in an existing shelter for the coming winter.

Alex Abramovich, a research co-ordinator with the Centre for Research on Inner City Health at St. Michael's Hospital, has spent eight years studying the issue and proposed a shelter exclusively for LGBT youth.

Coun. Kristyn Wong-Tam questioned the mayor's motivations.

She said that since there is no financial impact of the vote, there would be no reason Ford, an avowed tax fighter, to vote against it.

"It tells me he doesn't care," she said. "He's demonstrated he doesn't care."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/r ... -1.2703174

Ford is still mayor? I thought he'd have resigned already.
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Postby Hamil » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:26 pm

Do gays support pedophilia? Isn't kinda hypocritical for them not to?

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Postby Aequalitia » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:29 pm

Hamil wrote:Do gays support pedophilia? Isn't kinda hypocritical for them not to?

What the hell is you point?
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Postby Rocopurr » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:29 pm

Hamil wrote:Do gays support pedophilia? Isn't kinda hypocritical for them not to?

...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:29 pm

Hamil wrote:Do gays support pedophilia? Isn't kinda hypocritical for them not to?

…. :eyebrow:

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Postby United States Kingdom » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:31 pm

The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Shago wrote:I can't say what I really think without getting into hot water with the Mods. So I'll use my better judgment and just zip it.


Indeed.
In case you haven´t noticed, there´s only two ways of expressing yourself here :
- you´re either pro-gay,
or
- a fanatic homophobic nazi angel of death who burns homosexuals in the town square while surrounded by cheering dark hordes of anti-gay chaos.


Their is at least 1 more opinion you should ad. You don't support LGBT rights but you don't support the killing, laws making them not be able to do things such as serve in the military, etc.
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Postby Hamil » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:33 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Hamil wrote:Do gays support pedophilia? Isn't kinda hypocritical for them not to?

...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.

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Postby Aequalitia » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:35 pm

Hamil wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.

Being gay don't harms someone, meanwhile liking children in a way I not even want to think is harming always.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:35 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Indeed.
In case you haven´t noticed, there´s only two ways of expressing yourself here :
- you´re either pro-gay,
or
- a fanatic homophobic nazi angel of death who burns homosexuals in the town square while surrounded by cheering dark hordes of anti-gay chaos.


Their is at least 1 more opinion you should ad. You don't support LGBT rights but you don't support the killing, laws making them not be able to do things such as serve in the military, etc.

That's supporting some LGBT rights. LGBT rights are equal rights.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:36 pm

Hamil wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.

No. Stop right there. Your comparison is bad, and you should feel bad.

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Postby Revanchism » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:37 pm

Hamil wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.

Oh yes, you're completely a legitimate poster making valid arguments and not at all someone's troll puppet.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:37 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:
Indeed.
In case you haven´t noticed, there´s only two ways of expressing yourself here :
- you´re either pro-gay,
or
- a fanatic homophobic nazi angel of death who burns homosexuals in the town square while surrounded by cheering dark hordes of anti-gay chaos.


Their is at least 1 more opinion you should ad. You don't support LGBT rights but you don't support the killing, laws making them not be able to do things such as serve in the military, etc.

Actually, it's quite simple. Either your a hateful bigot, or you're not. There ya go.

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:39 pm

Hamil wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.

Pedophilia is a mental disorder, not a sexual orientation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia It's a disorder because it can cause great harm to children.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:39 pm

Hamil wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.


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Postby United States Kingdom » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:40 pm

Merizoc wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
Their is at least 1 more opinion you should ad. You don't support LGBT rights but you don't support the killing, laws making them not be able to do things such as serve in the military, etc.

Actually, it's quite simple. Either your a hateful bigot, or you're not. There ya go.


They are people who would take it to the extreme stating that lgt's are 'demons' which I haven't. I just have a different opinion on it and I see it as 'unnatural'.

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Postby Distruzio » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:40 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
The Count of Monte Cristo wrote:Indeed.
In case you haven´t noticed, there´s only two ways of expressing yourself here :
- you´re either pro-gay,
or
- a fanatic homophobic nazi angel of death who burns homosexuals in the town square while surrounded by cheering dark hordes of anti-gay chaos.

And that's fucking cisgender privilege.

There's a lot of people who pretend to be socially liberal while being openly non-allies to transgender people!


I'd consider myself more pro-gender minority than I am more pro-sexual minority.

<<shrug>>

It might be because I support the binary gender perception - gender minorities rarely violate that. Although there are certainly some that wish for a 3rd perception to be inclusive but, in my experience, these "3rd" genders fluidly switch between one and the other. I've never encountered anyone that identifies as non-gendered (I'm sure they're out there.... unsure how I'd react to them).
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:41 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Actually, it's quite simple. Either your a hateful bigot, or you're not. There ya go.


They are people who would take it to the extreme stating that lgt's are 'demons' which I haven't. I just have a different opinion on it and I see it as 'unnatural'.

Then you'd be wrong. Homosexuality appears in nature, and hence is "natural".

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Postby Distruzio » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:42 pm

Hamil wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:...No? I mean, I'm sure some homosexuals support pedophilia, but it isn't a common phenomenon. How would it be hypocritical?


They're both sexual orientations trying to gain equality.


Nope. One is a sexual orientation. The other is a mental illness.
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