What do you think about UKIP?

[Estormo]

As I understand it, they want to kick me out of the country, so I can't say I have a very positive opinion of them.

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

[Imperializt Russia]

As I understand it, they want to kick me out of the country, so I can't say I have a very positive opinion of them.

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

It's UKIP, don't underestimate.

[Greater-London]

Being able to move around Europe without a visa and being able to trade freely between member states are enormous benefits.

Agreed in entirety. You can of course have that without a political union.

[Ifreann]

As I understand it, they want to kick me out of the country, so I can't say I have a very positive opinion of them.

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

Does the Netherlands count as Bongo Bongo Land?

[Greater-London]

As I understand it, they want to kick me out of the country, so I can't say I have a very positive opinion of them.

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

They would no less than any other EU migrant. UKIP policy doesn't differentiate between what EU member states people come from.

[Imperializt Russia]

Being able to move around Europe without a visa and being able to trade freely between member states are enormous benefits.

Agreed in entirety. You can of course have that without a political union.

A "political union" must exist in some format to make it possible. There must be a reason why it's not widely-practised internationally (so far as I'm aware).

[Breadknife]

Except its different - because at the time Nick was virtually unknown to the voting public. People now know who Clegg and Farage are and Farage is a better orator that Nick is.

Can I just take the opportunity to say again that Farage's oration is what makes me hate him, as a person, most.

He tends to speak as if he's politicising, unplugged, from a soap-box out in the street, over the top of a whole lot of disinterested and mumbling bystanders. Even when he's on a panel of a BBC discussion programme, fully equipped with lapel-mike and a (mostly) rapt audience and (generally) respectfully well-behaved co-commentators who, despite perfectly natural inclinations, aren't trying to overspeak the *mumble mumble* loud-mouthed *mumble*.

[Imperializt Russia]

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

They would no less than any other EU migrant. UKIP policy doesn't differentiate between what EU member states people come from.

Well... they would be white and western and likely speak English...
That might be okay in UKIP's book.

[Agritum]

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

It's UKIP, don't underestimate.

Otherwise, they will destroy British culture with their tulips and other stereotypical Dutch specialties.

[Shove Piggy Shove]

It's UKIP, don't underestimate.

Otherwise, they will destroy British culture with their tulips and other stereotypical Dutch specialties.

They'll build windmills everywhere to destroy the green belt and start clog dancing in the street creating traffic jams and increasing congestion in the city!

[Greater-London]

Can I just take the opportunity to say again that Farage's oration is what makes me hate him, as a person, most.

He tends to speak as if he's politicising, unplugged, from a soap-box out in the street, over the top of a whole lot of disinterested and mumbling bystanders. Even when he's on a panel of a BBC discussion programme, fully equipped with lapel-mike and a (mostly) rapt audience and (generally) respectfully well-behaved co-commentators who, despite perfectly natural inclinations, aren't trying to overspeak the *mumble mumble* loud-mouthed *mumble*.

I guess it comes down to personal taste. I think hes quite engaging, he doesn't patronize and he doesn't use jargon. I've never seen him on TV or in the EU 'parliament' and wondered what he meant when he stopped which is far from what can be said about many other politicians. Even if you don't like his style I find Nick Clegg quite uninspiring, I never understood the Clegg-Mania after the leadership debates - its also quite easy to look like an engaging interesting person when your standing next to Gordon Brown.
I also feel like the oritation reason is a strange reason to "hate" someone.

[Greater-London]

Well... they would be white and western and likely speak English...
That might be okay in UKIP's book.

Well that's nearly all of Europe then.

[Agritum]

Can I just take the opportunity to say again that Farage's oration is what makes me hate him, as a person, most.

He tends to speak as if he's politicising, unplugged, from a soap-box out in the street, over the top of a whole lot of disinterested and mumbling bystanders. Even when he's on a panel of a BBC discussion programme, fully equipped with lapel-mike and a (mostly) rapt audience and (generally) respectfully well-behaved co-commentators who, despite perfectly natural inclinations, aren't trying to overspeak the *mumble mumble* loud-mouthed *mumble*.

I guess it comes down to personal taste. I think hes quite engaging, he doesn't patronize and he doesn't use jargon. I've never seen him on TV or in the EU 'parliament' and wondered what he meant when he stopped which is far from what can be said about many other politicians.
I also feel like the oritation reason is a strange reason to "hate" someone.

Well, Farage is pretty famous for his ham-fisted monologues in the Europarliament.

[Imperializt Russia]

Well... they would be white and western and likely speak English...
That might be okay in UKIP's book.

Well that's nearly all of Europe then.

Everyone knows only Polacks, Romanians, Bulgarians and Muslims want to immigrate.

[Wolfmanne]

Well that's nearly all of Europe then.

Everyone knows only Polacks, Romanians, Bulgarians and Muslims want to immigrate.

Polack? That's a new one.

[Ifreann]

Well that's nearly all of Europe then.

Everyone knows only Polacks, Romanians, Bulgarians and Muslims want to immigrate.

Besides which, the Easterlings aren't really white.

[Blakullar]

As potty as UKIP is, I tend to border on the Eurosceptic side myself - but then again, I'm sceptical of all foreigners. I'm staying neutral.

[Breadknife]

It was something like the Falkands today, since there is no New Zealand etnicity the people who libed there 150 years ago were British,

I sincerely hope someone else has mentioned the Māoris, already... If not, I'm doing so now.

[Greater-London]

A "political union" must exist in some format to make it possible. There must be a reason why it's not widely-practised internationally (so far as I'm aware).

I see no reason why you need to have a political union in order to achieve it, its something that many Europhiles have failed to explain to me. I would probably think their may be some INCREDIBLY loose political body to oversee everything perhaps we could call it the common market? Also free trade and travel can happen on a bilateral basis like the border the UK has with Ireland or what will hopefully happen if Scotland gains independence.

[The New Lowlands]

As I understand it, they want to kick me out of the country, so I can't say I have a very positive opinion of them.

I highly doubt they would want to kick out the Dutch.

They want to leave the EU, hence take away my visa, hence take away my right to reside in Britain.

[America Libertaria]

I don't know enough about British politics, but if it's a right wing party than most likely very negative.

[Greater-London]

Well, Farage is pretty famous for his ham-fisted monologues in the Europarliament.

He does have a tendency to monologue I agree. However I don't object to his heavy handed approach I think its a breath of fresh air, especially compared to the rest of the EU Parliament.

[Obnoxious Teenagers]

Their MONSTERS!!

[Obnoxious Teenagers]

I don't know enough about British politics, but if it's a right wing party than most likely very negative.

Right on spot!!!

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Not deserving of being kicked until all of BNP are dealt with first?