What do you think about UKIP?

[Shove Piggy Shove]

That's not really an expansion, it's just a nonsensical statement with no supporting arguments...

Must I? For example, they do not allow just any random immigrant who wants into the UK

There are already immigration controls in place, and overall immigration to the UK is beneficial:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 73647.html
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... t-advisers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

[Estormo]

They do not want to destroy white countries. Expanded.

Is that an implied 'unlike the three big parties'? That would be precious.

Unlike Labour.

[Ifreann]

They do, they just don't realise it.

Incorrect.

No, it's quite correct. Pulling out of the EU would be terrible for the UK.

[Estormo]

Must I? For example, they do not allow just any random immigrant who wants into the UK

There are already immigration controls in place, and overall immigration to the UK is beneficial:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 73647.html
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... t-advisers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture
2. The Guardian is a biased source, not to be taken with any seriousness.
3. It also gives Labour more votes

[Estormo]

Incorrect.

No, it's quite correct. Pulling out of the EU would be terrible for the UK.

Look at Norway, the place is hell isn't it?

[L Ron Cupboard]

Is that an implied 'unlike the three big parties'? That would be precious.

Unlike Labour.

I must have missed Ed's "Kill Whitey" speech.

[Alyakia]

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture

ban kebabs, go back to old english. it's also been corrupted by forefingers but it's the best we have for now.

[Shove Piggy Shove]

No, it's quite correct. Pulling out of the EU would be terrible for the UK.

Look at Norway, the place is hell isn't it?

Norway has never been in the EU, so it isn't a true comparison.

[Magna Libero]

Fairly positive, actually. A quick look on the party shows that I disagree with immigration and I don't think a 40% increase in the UK's defense budget is necessary.

[Estormo]

Look at Norway, the place is hell isn't it?

Norway has never been in the EU, so it isn't a true comparison.

The UK should have never been, or any nation.

[Everia]

I like their policies on the issues.

I don't know how you want me to expand on it. Maybe something to discuss would help.

Which issues? EU? Immigration? NHS? Same Sex Marriage? Environment/Power?

EU: EU can go fuck off for all I care. Terrible and pointless organization with no purpose.
Same-sex marriage: I really don't care honestly. However, I'd first take the government out of marriage completely. It is in my opinion a spiritual/religious ceremony that would be best left in the hands of the people free of state interference. Civil unions, however, is how the State should go about this issue and such.
Environment: Another issue I couldn't give a damn about. Energy independence is cool though I guess.

[Shove Piggy Shove]

There are already immigration controls in place, and overall immigration to the UK is beneficial:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 73647.html
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... t-advisers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture
2. The Guardian is a biased source, not to be taken with any seriousness.
3. It also gives Labour more votes

1. How does it destroy our culture?
2. I gave you three sources that all agree, the fact that you dislike one of the papers doesn't change the validity of the argument
3. Source? Also, why does this matter?

[Alyakia]

Which issues? EU? Immigration? NHS? Same Sex Marriage? Environment/Power?

EU: EU can go fuck off for all I care. Terrible and pointless organization with no purpose.
Same-sex marriage: I really don't care honestly. However, I'd first take the government out of marriage completely. It is in my opinion a spiritual/religious ceremony that would be best left in the hands of the people free of state interference. Civil unions, however, is how the State should go about this issue and such.
Environment: Another issue I couldn't give a damn about. Energy independence is cool though I guess.

one of UKIPs main policies is immigration

tell us about your views on immigration

[Estormo]

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture
2. The Guardian is a biased source, not to be taken with any seriousness.
3. It also gives Labour more votes

1. How does it destroy our culture?
2. I gave you three sources that all agree, the fact that you dislike one of the papers doesn't change the validity of the argument
3. Source? Also, why does this matter?

Immigration is sure to give labour more votes. They will bring their whole damn families.

[Alyakia]

1. How does it destroy our culture?
2. I gave you three sources that all agree, the fact that you dislike one of the papers doesn't change the validity of the argument
3. Source? Also, why does this matter?

Immigration is sure to give labour more votes. They will bring their whole damn families.

prove that immigrants from places like poland or pakistan (usually more conservative than the native population) are more likely to vote labour

[Ifreann]

There are already immigration controls in place, and overall immigration to the UK is beneficial:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 73647.html
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... t-advisers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... itain.html

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture

No it doesn't.

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No, it's quite correct. Pulling out of the EU would be terrible for the UK.

Look at Norway, the place is hell isn't it?

Not really. How's the Ukraine doing? I hear the EU basically negotiated peace there.

[Greater-London]

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture
2. The Guardian is a biased source, not to be taken with any seriousness.
3. It also gives Labour more votes

1. It doesn't destroy British culture. Britain isn't any less British, In fact immigrant cultures have created some uniquely British music, art, food that has its origins from across the globe. Look at Bhangra music or the Chicken Tika Masla both of which are very British but also very Asian. That's whats great about British culture is that its cosmopolitan by nature.

2. Whilst I agree its a biased source its still a legitimate one. Also Telegraph is a paper with a right wing stance so that probably balances things out.

3. It may do, but you can't screen immigrants and deny them entry because of their politics

[Estormo]

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture

No it doesn't.

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Look at Norway, the place is hell isn't it?

Not really. How's the Ukraine doing? I hear the EU basically negotiated peace there.

Ukraine? All the teeny liberals are fighting for their culture to be destroyed, I do not give a damn !

[Shove Piggy Shove]

Which issues? EU? Immigration? NHS? Same Sex Marriage? Environment/Power?

EU: EU can go fuck off for all I care. Terrible and pointless organization with no purpose.
Same-sex marriage: I really don't care honestly. However, I'd first take the government out of marriage completely. It is in my opinion a spiritual/religious ceremony that would be best left in the hands of the people free of state interference. Civil unions, however, is how the State should go about this issue and such.
Environment: Another issue I couldn't give a damn about. Energy independence is cool though I guess.

The EU does have a purpose, it allows for greater economic unity across Europe - it is the single largest market in the world with an estimated value of approximately £11 trillion. It also allows for free movement of citizens of EU countries, which is also beneficial.

Are there any issues you actually do care about then?

[Estormo]

1. It may be good for you economy, but it destroys your culture
2. The Guardian is a biased source, not to be taken with any seriousness.
3. It also gives Labour more votes

1. It doesn't destroy British culture. Britain isn't any less British, In fact immigrant cultures have created some uniquely British music, art, food that has its origins from across the globe. Look at Bhangra music or the Chicken Tika Masla both of which are very British but also very Asian. That's whats great about British culture is that its cosmopolitan by nature.

2. Whilst I agree its a biased source its still a legitimate one. Also Telegraph is a paper with a right wing stance so that probably balances things out.

3. It may do, but you can't screen immigrants and deny them entry because of their politics

But you CAN deny them a say in the voting process.

[Everia]

EU: EU can go fuck off for all I care. Terrible and pointless organization with no purpose.
Same-sex marriage: I really don't care honestly. However, I'd first take the government out of marriage completely. It is in my opinion a spiritual/religious ceremony that would be best left in the hands of the people free of state interference. Civil unions, however, is how the State should go about this issue and such.
Environment: Another issue I couldn't give a damn about. Energy independence is cool though I guess.

one of UKIPs main policies is immigration

tell us about your views on immigration

I knew I forgot something.

Immigration: Also don't care.

Muh guns, military, police, justice, and security are the only issues I give a damn for. Surprisingly, I happen to agree with UKIP on 4/5 as I have no idea what they think of gun control.

[Ifreann]

No it doesn't.

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Not really. How's the Ukraine doing? I hear the EU basically negotiated peace there.

Ukraine? All the teeny liberals are fighting for their culture to be destroyed, I do not give a damn !

Well Ukraine isn't in the EU, and they're not exactly having a great time of things. If you think that Norway not being hell proves that the UK would be fine outside of the EU, then by that reasoning the fact that Ukraine is basically having a civil war proves that the UK would be fucked outside the EU. We call this being hoist by your own petard.

[Greater-London]

prove that immigrants from places like poland or pakistan (usually more conservative than the native population) are more likely to vote labour

Well its quite well document. The Labour party certainly has a better reputation for race relations that the conservatives do and as such have attracted the immigrant vote. They do also go after ethnic minority and immigrant votes and are quite open about it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... dmits.html
http://labourlist.org/2013/08/the-ethni ... ack-obama/

[Greater-London]

But you CAN deny them a say in the voting process.

I presume from the wink that was a joke. On the chance it wasn't you really cant deny someone the vote because you disagree with their politics. Nor can you deny the vote to migrants if they are long term residents of the UK.

[Estormo]

Ukraine? All the teeny liberals are fighting for their culture to be destroyed, I do not give a damn !

Well Ukraine isn't in the EU, and they're not exactly having a great time of things. If you think that Norway not being hell proves that the UK would be fine outside of the EU, then by that reasoning the fact that Ukraine is basically having a civil war proves that the UK would be fucked outside the EU. We call this being hoist by your own petard.

Not entirely. The UK and Ukraine are two different places. WAY DIFFERENT places.